not even a year into his job, steve bannon was fired. when he was dismissed, bannon didn't disappear. he resumed his post at breitbart, the conservative news outline and continued to give advice to the president. then in january michael wolf's provocative inside account of the white house fire and fury was published. bannon was a chief source which painted the president in a less than flattering light. trump had enough. in a statement he said that when bannon was fired he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. after his presidential dressing down, bannon also resigned from breitbart but has continued to work to spread his brand of populism and in high demand all over europe especially in italy. he invited me to rome to interview him why rome? for a place that's been accused of being chaotic. italian politics are more chaotic than ever. what's caused all the trouble is a recent win by italy's populist who bannon has been supporting. we'll dig into that later in the show with steve bannon. over the next hour you hear his thoughts on the w

not even a year into his job, steve bannon was fired. when he was dismissed, bannon didn't disappear. he resumed his post at breitbart, the conservative news outline and continued to give advice to the president. then in january michael wolf's provocative inside account of the white house fire and fury was published. bannon was a chief source which painted the president in a less than flattering light. trump had enough. in a statement he said that when bannon was fired he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. after his presidential dressing down, bannon also resigned from breitbart but has continued to work to spread his brand of populism and in high demand all over europe especially in italy. he invited me to rome to interview him. why rome? for a place that's been accused of being chaotic. italian politics are more chaotic than ever. what's caused all the trouble is a recent win by italy's populist who bannon has been supporting. we'll dig into that later in the show with steve bannon. over the next hour you hear his thoughts on the

people forget, but before donald trump ran for president, steve bannon tried to talk jeff sessions intong for president. clearly, this is someone bannon wants to keep in place -- as a lot of republicans do, wants to keep in place in the attorney general's job because that job comes with so much power. it's been difficult for sessions to stay in that job, he's been humiliated and de-emasculated beyond what trump has even directed at bannon. but there's a lot of republicans in there and bannon wants to give support to this contingent and wanting to see sessions survive. >> all right thank you. >>> when we come back we'll dig into why the president pardoned a social pundit. here's a hint, it may have had to do with president obama. yes. it's a targeted medicine proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, and lower oral steroid use. about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. fasenra™ is designed to work with the body to target and remove eosinophils. fasenra™ is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with severe eosinophilic asthma. don

before donald trump ran for president, steve bannon tried to talk jeff sessions into running for presidentannon wants to keep in place -- as a lot of republicans do, want to keep in place the attorney general's job because that job comes with so much power. it's been difficult for sessions to stay in that job, he's been humiliated and demasslated for -- there's a lot of report in there bannon is trying to give support to this contingent and want to see sessions survivor. >> all right thank you. >>> when we come back we'll dig into why the president pardoned a social we pundant. here's a hint, it may have had to do with president obama. ♪ i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections,

>> i rarely if ever agree with what steve bannon says. especially because trump, according to my colleague's reporting told jeff sessions that if he reversed this decision to recuse himself, he would be a hero among conservatives. it's clear steve bannon has certain views on this and he sees, just like the rest of us, how the president is potentially implicating himself in this russia investigation. the president wants this to go away, but he is further implicating himself and everything he's saying and doing will be under investigation. >>> a former attorney general says he's a little about the president pardons and why they may end up back firing on president trump. tection... advanced connectivity... and one more thing... the world comes with it. the new, reimagined 2019 jeep cherokee. (honking) when your craving strikes, you need your wing nut. ( ♪ ) no one can totally satisfy a craving, quite like your wing nut. where we're changing withs? contemporary make-overs. no one can totally satisfy a craving, then, use the ultimate power han

we're back with steve bannon. now, you famously kept the white board of presidential promises to keep track of what he was keeping. that is a promise he obviously broke. he has not always told the truth. >> i don't know that. i mean -- >> steve. >> what i see is, he has. this is another thing to demonize him. >> are you saying the president's never lied? >> not to my knowledge, no. >> what about when he says that the -- >> except when he called me sloppy steve. that's the only. >> what about when he says that the ig report exonerates him of collusion? >> you want to go back to that? you want to go back to that? to the ig report that weaponizes the fbi against donald trump? >> he says things are -- that are not true all the time. >> i don't believe that. >> come on. >> i think he speaks in a vernacular that connects to people in this country. >> let me play you what mark sanford said right after he lost. tuesday. >> mark sanford, the king of the never trumpers, right? >> let's listen to what he said. >> there is no

so not even a year into his job, steve bannon was fired. when he was dismissed. bannon didn't disappear from the public eye. he resumed as executive chairman at breitbart the conservative news outlet and continued to give advice to the president. then in january, michael wolff's account of "fire and fury" was published. it painted the president if a less than flattering light. trump had enough, in a statement he said when bannon was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. after his presidential dressing down, bannon resigned from breitbart, but kr continued to spread his brand of populism and is in high demand, especially in italy. he invited many tow rome to interview him. why rome? for a person that's often been accused of chaotic. italian politics are more chaotic than ever, what's caused the problem is an election win by italy's populist who bannon has been supporting. we will dig in with that later in the show. over the next wave of populism on mid-term elections and his former boss president donald trump. here is my exclusive interview. >> thanks

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he should listen to steve bannon on this. steve bannon is right.y or sessions that they would have had to recuse themselves because of their playing roles in the campaign. so sessions couldn't have said, hey, i'm going to recuse myself, don't appoint me. no matter who the president appointed, he would have had to go outside his campaign. >> he technically could have. regardless it did not happen. but, joe, are you saying that donald trump should listen to steve bannon, the same steve bannon that president trump put out a statement about a while ago? >> i think on this one, steve bannon is right. he's wrong about a lot of things. i think he's wrong about firing ross and others that he's urging the president to do, yeah. but i think he's right on this. >> ned? final thought. >> i think we'll have to see how this plays out. if he were to fire jeff sessions, what is the calculation with his base? i don't think his base would mind. it would be kind of a bit of a shrug. >> they wouldn't care! with all this stuff, the folks that support donald trump, it d

that is the supposed fix that steve bannon says is too kind.our thoughts. >> pretty humane, isn't it? >> i think i have a higher opinion of a bunch of the people who voted for donald trump than steve bannon does, because this -- the cruelty of this policy, the violation of family values, here we are as jonathan pointed out on father's day talking about a policy that rips kids away from their fathers and let's not mince words about this. the administration has been very clear that cruelty is a policy here because they want kids ripped away because that will be a disincentive for people to come up to try to cross the border. so zero tolerance becomes zero humanity and the republicans, you had -- there were two more signatures you needed on a discharge petition that would have allowed votes on far more humane immigration bills. there are as you said, the fienstein bill, very clear bills that could have stopped this. instead they'll be voting on watered down bills that keep trying to make concessions to the administration because paul ryan doesn't

a 2014 memo from cambridge analytica, outside legal counsel, rebecca mercer, steve bannon, made these restrictions very clear. -- u.s. campaigns. did cambridge analytica follow these legal requirements in its work on american campaigns quick >> the source that provided the media with the memo, which i saw the tail end of my engagement with cambridge analytica, to my understanding, that memo was disregarded, because alexander nix continued to be the ceo, and they continue to send people to the united states who are not amican citizens, one thing that i would say is that many people who were sent to united states who were not american citizens, were not privy to the memo, and were not aware that potentially there were violations of u.s. law. >> facebook of course has been discussed as being used in election advertising for some time. somebody lives in a particular state, they could target ads that reflect the interests of state. for cambridge analytica, correct me if i'm wrong, but they obtain the unauthorized facebook data of 87 million people, and then targeted them with manipulative

of september, if it looks like republicans are going to get wiped out in the midterms here is steve bannonstill talk to the president, do you know? >> i don't think he does. >> okay. >> and if he did, i think you would hear a lot more about that. steve has been in permanent political exile. and when he lost his position with breitbart and his billionaire donors, he has been traveling abroad and been seen persona nongrata. steve, halfway through the year, trying to make a bit of a comeback and going to use media to make that happen. >> shutting down the government for not getting funding for wall may play well to donald trump's base but how would thatply for the gop who is trying to, you know, get re-elected in these tough states? >> democrats are trying to nationalize this election, make the midterms a referendum against donald trump. the last thing that republicans want is donald trump this close to the election at the end of september when this theoretically happened do something so massive that it would make the election all about him. republicans are not inviting him into the campaign.

so steve bannon is up to his old tricks. >> thank you very much.ascinating sitdown that fareed had tonight at 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. at some point today president trump will be handed a personal letter from kim jong un. what it could mean for their on again-off again meeting. for your brain.thing with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. by staying in rhythm. and to keep up this pace, i drink boost optimum. boost optimum with 5 in 1 advanced nutrition helps support muscle, energy, bone, normal immune function, and vision. boost optimum. be up for life. >>> north korea's former spy chief is on his way to the white house to hand deliver a letter from kim jong-un to president trump. this is one day after kim yong chol met with secretary of state mike pompeo. and the question is, is this summit between the president and kim jong-un going to be salvaged. michelle kosinski live at the state department with more on this. w

and it was particularly interesting, steve bannon. the president's chief strategist, the president's brain, whafrl he was called back when he was e in the white house, agrees. listen to this sitdown he had with fareed zakaria. >> donald trump says he wishes he had picked another attorney general. is donald trump right? >> i think the president is wrong. i think the president has been wrong from the beginning about -- if i can respectfully disagree with the president of the united states. i think the whole concept of recusal is not even an issue. i think that rudy guiliani, a chris christie, or jeff sessions, anybody associated with the campaign could have had to recuse themselves before the committee even voted them out to go to e floor for a vote. so i think the recusal is an issue -- yes, an issue that was dealt with and had to be dealt with. whether you picked rudy or christie. rudy was always the first pick. jeff sessions and rudy all for secretary of state. so even rudy knew at the time there was going to be this recusal. i think

and the role in the russia investigation that first year, how many times steve bannon likes to point out that he was uncomfortable several times over the first years by his own admission so who knows for real there, he says sessions should have recused himself. >> i actually think steve bannon is right. he said something interesting and i don't know if he meant to say it but he said that anybody, whether it was christie, rudy or jeff sessions would have to recuse even before the confirmation vote came out of committee. that's not really what sessions did, right? we didn't see him do a very public recusal until after it emerged he omitted information in his confirmation hearings about his own conversations with the russian ambassador. while the president repeatedly pressuring jeff sessions and people around the president to reach out to sessions about the recusal is going to raise enormous questions and the president was warned by people in realtime that this is problematic when he was doing that, some other people would just ignore him. the fact that sessions may not have handled the

thank you, coming up, fareed zakaria goes one on one with steve bannon. that's next.blomplts. >> hello, welcome to this cnn special the steve bannon interview, i'm fareed zakaria in rome. bannon came to world wide attention in 2016 when he was named the ceo of president trump's campaign, after the inauguration, he became the

donald trump is pandering to the most extreme people in his base that steve bannon represents. i think that will be a problem for them in 2018. >> it seems ago if, in the begins when president trump entered the white house, he did not believe in family separation when it came to separation, but steve miller got in his ears, and they earled that number jumped up and sudden they set our only option here is zero-tolerance. is this just a window into the thinking of the current white house and their policies on immigration by seeing steve bannon talking the way he is. >> certainly we know it wasn't the white house, it was clearly the democrats who accepted it had -- ted uz's dad assassinate jfk. but it goes to a larger problem, in that they're showing zero morality, whether it sums to, and rodrigo duterte, he's it was. america itself is a beacon of freedom to the world. that's what presidents, both republican and democrat have done before president trump. they offer that hope, and when donald trump begins to say, no, you know, and creates the false moral equivalencies, we're a worl

let's take a listen to what steve bannon had to say. >> the president is wrong. wrong, been wrong from the beginning about if i can respectfully kiss agree disagree with the president of the united states. i think the whole concept of recusal is not even an issue. i think rudy giuliani, chris christie, jeff sessions, anybody associated with the campaign would have had to recuse themselves before grassley's committee voted them out to go to the floor for a vote. >> just listen to that, carrie, i wonder how loud this is, how many people are talking an the recruusal issue. we see it in the president's twitter feed. hear people talking about it, trey gowdy, outgoing congressman from south carolina. is it something a lot of people are seizing on? >> republicans close to the president, aside from steve bannon, are still beating up the attorney general for this recusal, but david, steve bannon is right, this is an investigation of russian interfeerns inte interference in the election. whether anyone on trump's campaign -- it's quite clear, though sessions waited a coupl

he connects with steve bannon, who by this time his running trump's campaign.s with him on what places to reach out to the african-american community. in their analysis, it was great if you could get a black voter who would normally vote for a democrat to vote for trump, but it was almost as good if you could get them to stay home and not vote for hillary clinton. campaign ofbecame a voter suppression to try to convince the black communities just not to vote -- support hillary clinton. jason: i am glad you mentioned that. that was a fastening -- fascinating piece of the story. if you could get them not to vote at all, it is at least plus one, and if you get them to vote for trump, it is plus two. it helped to turn the election, right? >> absolutely. it is one of the untold stories of the election. if you look at a handful of states like florida, north carolina, and pennsylvania, all of which trump won by slim margins, the african-american community plays a really important role, because it did not turn out in the same levels that it didn't 2008 and 2012. that e

kevin: has it steve bannon call you -- called the? -- called you?offered to help your campaign? corey: clint: i can't discuss that. kevin: the kochrothers, a dominant force, in terms of raising money for candidates, have said they will not back you. they will not put money in your race. if you are not going to be able to raise money, how are you going to win? corey: there is a difference between saying the koch brothers will support you and saying you will be able to raise money. got to be able to raise money. the republican party is in a lot of transition right now. it is becoming the party of donald trump. you still have these holdouts like the koch brothers on others who want to keep it at the same as it has always been. they don't like the candidates like myself who are pro-donald trump and strong supporters of america first agenda. kevin: but they are pro-donald trump. [laughter] kevin: they are. corey: they are for amnesty. are not a big fan of the president's crack on illegal immigration which is one of the biggest platforms i'm running on. s

you know it just wasn't meant to be a you it would be like steve bannon dating pete and young go. just one word and you know one well actually the u.n. human rights council is kind of a pathetic toothless agency to begin with so it's really like steve bannon dating steve buscemi a character from fargo. i'm not sure why but that analogy is perfect and. finally we move to the government's efforts to separate us from reality as you might remember i recently covered the twenty one trillion dollars that has gone unaccounted for at the pentagon over the past twenty years yes trillion with a t. it was based on the department of defense's own inspector general's reports so after that segment and a few other articles went viral the deal inspector general has now redacted the latest reports they've covered all the numbers and even the title of the document. because a lot of people were going all over you want to write your dollars. so that's right redacted tonight is now helping to cause redactions i'm very sorry about that my bad. guys that. they did and they claim they're censoring it for

. >> in fact former trump stat gist and immigration hard liner steve bannon called this a line in the a zero tolerance policy. he has not been given his wall and i believe he's going to enforce this policy. >> two republican senators negotiating how much congress could spend on the president's border wall will be meeting with limb in the white house. but there are divisions about how to handle the crisis involving children. some are demanding answers from the administration about the treatment of families lawfully seeking political asylum. they are not violating immigration laws but in some cases they're being separated too. >> all right. tharmg you for that report. >>> senate majority leader is the latest high ranking republican to criticize the investigation. watch this. >> what i think about the mueller investigation is, they ought to wrap it up. it's gone on seemingly forever and i don't know how much more they think they can find out but if the ig is through, you know, why can't the mueller investigation finally wrap up? >> interesting. however, the white water investigation into

do you agree with steve bannon there? is the president wrong to be criticizing jeff sessions over his recusal? >> i think chris christie and rudy guiliani would disagree with steve on that. they don't think they would have had to recuse in that situation. i think there was a lot of heat on attorney general sessions from his former colleagues in the senate. and the president certainly did not want him to do that. that is where it started. frankly, that was my first or second day in the white house where the president was lighting it up with tweets. now they are in this knot, alex, where attorney general sessions is not going to leave. the president sort can't really have him leave right now because i don't think he can replace him in a way that is going to be approved by the senate. so you're in this cord yann knot. it would be better if we could dial it down at this point because we are all playing on the same team and wearing the same jersey. >> yeah. you know, you mentioned your tenure in the white house. it was 11 days

sort of marked a real change was the new york times running an article about steve bannon a talk you gave to a group in the vatican known as the human dignity institute and amidst all the usual thing he was talking about the global tea party movement things like that he name checked fillin in julius evelyn now if you know who julius evill is you know that he was a twentieth century esoteric thinker he's rather controversial is a brilliant mind but he also had very far right extreme political views and he tried to curry favor first with miscellany and then with the national socialism and after the war when his attempts to somehow create a kind of absolute fascism through. mussolini's fascism and national socialism he became a kind of eminence greece in the background sort of intellectual. kind of mentor for a variety of the right groups that were rising up in italy and so forth he lived and he died nine hundred seventy four but he has works now been picked up by the altar right and people of that sort so it struck me that you know to have first place julie's name checked in the new yo

find it exclusively at the home depot. >>> tomorrow night on cnn an exclusive interview with steve bannonbannon talks about his days in the west wing and at one point "360" came up. >> i said don't fire comey. it's the c block on anderson cooper. no one is interested anymore. it will be done in ninety days. >> i have to protest that. lots of people watch the c block. >> by the time you get to the c block the energy -- it's not on the a block. i've always said he's a combat marine and great individual. where i have a problem and a huge problem, i was the guy that said publicly that ty cobb should be fired. he gave the president i thought terrible advice. i think he lied to the president consistently about the nature of the investigation and the timing of it. unlike every other president we went and gave a million pages of documents and allowed -- >> hang on. >> to expedite this which i thought was not wise. >> that and much more tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern. thanks for watching "360." time to hand it over to don lemon. >> this is "cnn" tonight. the president trump sending a bat signal to

this data firm founded by trump's biggest donor, robert mercer, headed up by his campaign chief steve bannon, this firm they paid millions of dollars to late last ar, we learned that firm had reached out to one of the entities that s distributing en russi cambridge analytica offered their services, offered their help to help index andlici these stolen materials. and that kind of just sounds like details, right? sounds just like, oh, one more been walking since trump was e elected as we've been trying to figure out what exactly happened there in that election and what exactly russia did. itt unds like one more detail. but step back from it for a second. whmeans when we found out that cam reached out to wikileaks and said hey, can we help? what that means is we've got a russian intelligence operation under way to illegally influence the u.s. election in trump's favor, and we've got the data firm paid by the trump campaign offering operational help to that effor so that was a big deal when we got that revelation last year, that cambridge analytica offered to help wikileaks index and distribute

steve bannon is a disciple. for thelf said he calls elimination of the federal government, or functions of the federal government. he now acts as his own version rasputind and going -- going around the capitals and ask them to embrace white supremacy, to embrace older conservativism, to embrace anti-immigrant fervor and to destroy the european order that has existed that we fatwa or two over. host: robert mercer? guest: the funder of all of this. he funded cambridge analytic a deadly believe may have had a link to the russians. in fact, the head of channel 1 in russia, that ted turner of russia, said he was breached by donald trump on cambridge analytic a's efforts -- analytica's efforts in 2014 and 2015, the same time russian intelligence treated the internet research agency and started engineering social media through facebook and twitter. none of these things are coincidences. coincidence takes a lot of planning. this and they not only hit us, they hit the french, the british during brexit. the british are no

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i will start with, steve bannon on immigration, they open up to the illegals to call. i am a blue-collar guy. we should open up the line for these americans who have to compete against these people, the owners of cavities that are stressed because of people hiring illegal aliens. i haveedcrs the tr i am a veteran and my wife is a veteran. iorand i am in construction. i compete against people from ethiopia. and central and south my job. so i am not -- i show up on job sites and nobody speaks english. and i canca with to get somethi. it is disheartening. i have a hard line on the immigration thing. daca, i do not care if it takes the 50 years, they do not get use will be in order. for what purpose does the gentleman fxas ek recognition? >> i send to the desk a privilege red port from the committee on rules for filing under the rule. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk willry report the title. the clerk: report to accompany house resolution 923, resolution providing for further consideration of the bill h.r. 5895. making appropriation for energy and water development and r

. >> and steve bannon. >> and steve bannon, exactly. thank you so much, bill, kristen andjaco f continuing to be with us and keep us honest about it. this morning, the president of the american academy of pediatrics described the impact of the president's policy of the children inside these cages. >> i wento a shelter that was designed for very young children, an walked into the toddler room, and very different than when you normally see toddlers, they're usually running around and rambunctious. there were a number of very quiet children. and there was one little girl who was just sobbing and wailing and beating her fists on the mat. i was told you couldn't comfort or hold a crying child. we all knew that this child was crying because he washe wanted mother. >> dr. julie litman joins me now. thank you very much for being with us, doctor. i want to point out the president is coming into the east room on an unrelated matter. we may take a bit of that and hear whether he talks about this. but what is the bottom line of the impact from your

he connects with steve bannon. p's campaign, coordinates with him, and announces it was great if you get a black voter who would normally go over democrat, but it was almost as good if you could get him to stay home and not vote for hillary. it was sucked -- states like florida, not the support hillary. >> that was a very fascinating piece in your story that if you get one of these voters to vote for trump, that is plus two and if you get them to not vote at all, it is at least plus one. a fascinating math problem that helped turn the election, right? >> absolutely. it is one of the under told stories of the election. ofyou look at a handful states, florida, north carolina, and pennsylvania, all of which trump won by a slim margin, the african-american community played a really important role because it did not turn out in the same levels that it did in 2008 and 2012 and that essentially was a math problem that the campaign was really aware of. they knew that in order to win, they not only had to create a very diffe

. >> very quickly here, you have the former white house strategist, controversial guy, steve bannon onour show this morning. you say he's expected to talk about launching a big push for republicans in the midterms. but given the current atmosphere and given his past support for people like roy moore, what are his odds of success? >> well, some republicans >> some republicans who are working already on the midterms actually dread the idea that steve bannon will be out there in force. when you look at his track record, certainly the roy moore race, can you imagine losing a republican senate seat in the state of alabama really takes something. but bannon does have a big following still. and he does channel the president. if you look at the president's agenda right now, it looks a lot like the bannon agenda. >> jon karl, thank you as always. i want to remind everybody. jon has a big show this morning. he is as we just said, he's going to go one-on-one with the former white house chief strategist steve bannon. this will be his first live sunday morning interview since leaving the trump admi

later steve bannon lies about president trump not lying. that very surreal intew with the former white house strategist. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. welcome to holiday inn! thank you! ♪ ♪ wait, i have something for you! every stay is a special stay at holiday inn. save up to 15% when you book early at hollidayinn.com is not a marathon. it's a series of smart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress. >>> what i think about the mueller investigation is they ought to wrap it up. it's gone on seemingly forever. i don't know how much more they think they can find out. if the i.g. is through, why can't the mueller investigation finally wrap up? >> senate majority leader mitch mcconnell the latest hi high-rankingepublican to criticize special counsel robert mueller's investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election. however, as joe pointed out on twitter the white water investigat

see you gagain on monday. >>> hello and welcome to this cnn special, the steve bannon interview. rome. bannon came to worldwide attention in august of 2016 when he was named the ceo of donald trump's presidential campaign. after president trump's victory and inauguration bannon was named chief strategist at the white house, reporting only to the president. but for many he was also the chief ideaologist of a nationalist, protectionist poppist his ambition is nothing less than to remake conservativism in the world and america and that's remaking politics.

steve bannon, steven miller, the president, secretary nealsen were out there saying that. this is politically for the president. people are going to love this because it is president trump being tough on the border. the features of this plan were donald trump's design. this is something donald trump wanted. he got a program out there that deliberately separated children from their parents. young children. very young children. >> wait -- >> tender age -- >> they have to go into tender age centers. this was a plan that donald trump executived. planned out by steve bannon and miller. >> this has been going on for decades. >> in their own words. >> one at a time. >> it began with them faking those fake photographs in children in photographs that were placed in cages under the obama administration. this is a talking point. >> if it was wrong then -- >> if it was wrong then you should be crying about it then as you are crying about it now. >> you need to be careful. >> let me -- >> hold on. >> let the reverend -- >> reverend scott -- >> no such thing as political panic with dona

steve bannon says the president has been unfairly cite sides for his meeting with kim jong-un.e says republicans are not doing enough to support number those peace talks. >> he didn't give up any sanctions. it's a process that will end with a verifiable denuclearization of the peninsula. and it will take many, many years. i don't know why he comes home and people do nothing but vilify him and the republican establishment doesn't have enough guts to come to these microphones this weekend and back him up as a guy who is trying to do something. reporter: the president wouldn't say when he expects to talk to kim jong-un. but he says he plans to speak to his team over in asia to discuss the negotiations that are have much ongoing. he said he gave kim jong-un a very direct number so he can contact him at any point moving ford. >> we'll wait to see if that phone call does come through. arthel: there are breaking developments on the immigration front as we learn president trump will head to capitol hill to huddle with republicans on immigration. there are two bills being proposed. one

bannon andnow steve pushed for a question on there's a citizenship question on the census since the firstime since 1950. this is go to drastically diminish responses from immigrants and threatened the entire accuracy of the senses which is so critical for democracy. the reason they thiedwas to exclude nonciti from ting tard political representation. that would be a dramatic rewrite of the constitution, democratic norms and it would deny immigrant communities, places like new york and california, significant representation and shipped representation to whiter and more republican areas. what kris kobach and steve bannon are doing is try to weaponize the census to fit the trump administration's aims to try to help republicans can -- politically. stes.ng people in more diverse anything you tweeted yesterday, 55 years ago today, naacp field secretary medgar evers was assasassinated by kkk in mississippi. a reminder of the bloodshed fighting for voting r rights." >> my worry is history is repeating itself here. that so many people like medgar evers paid the highest price, their lives, fighting

i have to say, steve bannon got this right.ors as i was for 30 years, we're taken recusal matters veryrely does that happen. i had a personal experience with recusal when i was prosecuting a murder defendant. and one of the criminal associates of that murder defendant we learned was a hit man who was following me. albeit fleetingly, but that was a bit too exciting for even this career prosecutor. so, i was instantly recused from the entire office. my entire office from the district attorney's office for district of columbia was recused from the case. and we had to bring a prosecutor over from the eastern district of virginia just to handle the prosecution because now i've become a witness. i actually had to testify in the trial against the hit man. and i couldn't possibly serve as both witness and investigators and prosecutor on the case. it's an obvious conflict. >> okay. thanks for weighing in on that. i'm sorry, that must have been pretty frightening for that fleeting period of time. >> not my favorite case. >> let's get to former attorney general eric holder who says it potentially

. >> steve bannon, a strong advocate for the travel ban when he was white house chief strategist, says the decision is a big deal for the president's psyche, bolstering his certainty that his instincts are right and the haters are wrong. the travel ban restricts entry from countries including north korea, but there's said to be little concern in the administration this decision could hurt efforts to engage pyongyang in the denuclearization talks. >>> president trump walking back plans to restrict chinese investment in the u.s. technology. instead, he may give more power to an existingommittee to protect u.s. tech. the administration will unveil investment restrictions this week. sources say it will block chinese firms from buying industrially significant technology targeting beijing's "made in china, 2025" plan. a plan by xi jinping to dominate high-tech industries. here's what trump said yesterday -- >> we have the greatest technology in the world. people copy it and steal . we have the great scientists, we have the great brains, and we have to protect that, and we're going to protect

search one and done. >>> tomorrow night on cnn an exclusive interview with steve bannon. zakaria about his days in the west wing and the russia investigation. at one point, this program, "360" came up. take a look. >> i said don't fire comey. this thing is petering out. it's the c block on anderson cooper. nobody is interested anymore. it will be done in 90 days and we'll be done with it. >> i have to protest that. lots of people watch the c block. >> the energy, by the time you get to the c block. when it airs, it's the a block. i've been a big proponent of robert mueller. i've gone to be part of that as a witness of fact. he is a combat marine, a great individual. that ought to play out how it's going to play out. where i have a problem, and it's a huge problem, i was a guy that said publicly that ty cobb should be fired. he gave the president i thought terrible advice. i think he lied to the president consistently about the nature of this investigation was and the timing of it and giving overall a dockage. remember, unlike all the other precedents set with every other

space he's beamed himself into the crypto space and we even see the former strategist for mr trump steve bannon getting into the crypto fray but that's on the one hand you know but there's also a lot of haters out there right christy what do you make of all these people is that just a natural thing given that kryptos are so new i think so but i think having a celebrity endorsement someone so high profile was definitely a very smart move for a company whether or not his move to create like a greenhouse mining facility to improve environmental friendliness and the footprint impact that decline mine has had whether or not that that puts a sustainable business i am a little skeptical on that because he will now have to prove that he's able to try the environmental cost down and the cost of mining down compared to regular electrical mining that we have today jeffrey i mean i'd let you comment on this one but let me just say i mean you walk down the street in mine manhattan maybe not not land where you are but i mean you know every fifth person has an idea for a new krypto or a new ice you know so it