susan cole and you were telling me about an experience, an article you wrote about a on confederate generals. would you tell me that story on camera? jane: sure. what happened in charlottesville last summer, it really brought a lot of historians out into the public square, because h these were things we knew about. we knew about the monuments, the history of them. we wanted to talk about it. that was kind of an interesting moment, just a burst of historians out there. the piece i wrote about was about a virginia general who was a som very successful confederate general who after the war founded an african-american majority third-party in virginia that was extremely successful in elections. he ended up in the u.s. senate. this is a story that not many people know about. so it got a lot of reaction. susan: in terms of sheer numbers. jane: in terms of sheer numbers, for sure. people at the huffington post at something like 800,000 people had clicked on the link, if not necessarily read the whole thing. susan: and you had a comparison on the academic subject. jane: i got my first -- i did area i