[applause] [applause] >> thank you for being here today and for watchingn c-span. for more information you can go the speaker willeakg photos in our lobbies. please exit and line up. there's stuff left over in the kitchen if you like to help yourself. i know you need to get back in for your next session. you have a copy of the book and we will do a photo line if you want another book you can ask the staff. thank you for joining us. we hope to see you again. [inaudible] [inaudible conversation] [inaudible another author discussion coming up. this one is around the topic of civic engagement. one of the authors you will hear from is nadine strasser, head of the aclu for about 20 years. live coverage of the