i'm just trying to get a better understanding of who else is in these markets, india, mexico, fellowshphilippo else is doing well. >> so the response to that question in particular is we just show how well they have done relative to the indices, not relative to the active managers in those markets. >> and that's one of my other questions, is there a good indice? you said you're going to compare the markets to a good indice? what's a good indice. >> over the long-term, it is a good idea. when you have a manager that looks so different, that's what we're seeking are managers that look different than the index. >> okay. >> 99% active share here. >> please continue, unless any other board members -- >> when you put all the managers here with their different specialties, then you aggregate those and put them together and see if they beat the index. but that was the plan, right? >> this specific manager fits well in our portfolio. >> yes. >> that's the distinguishing -- if we're going to pick this manager, that that's the aspect you like the most? >> well, that's one. but their experience is pretty