i hope google would not cut that out. emily: you have been accused of crossing the line, of suppressing the black folks. you hired in cambridge analytica. when you look back -- >> i have been accused of it or bloomberg said it? emily: bloomberg wrote a story that quoted campaign officials that there were attempts to suppress the black vote. >> an anonymous trump campaign official, right? no, that is something that we did not do. do we show negative ads? yes. did we have any kind of direct intention to suppress anyone's vote? no. emily: you also hired cambridge analytica. going back and looking at that, did you think there is anything you did that crossed the line? >> the way we used cambridge had nothing to do with anything they have been accused about. they ran a polling operation for us. they had taken a lot of the quality staff from an operational standpoint from the -- from governor walker's campaign. i had to hire cambridge to do it. one thing that has never been accounted for is the $5 million that you see is a tv buy and

emily: would you be a buyer? >> i am. emily: at twice the price of apple? >> i am. the business is underestimated and misunderstood. his develops a delivery device for multiple services. they have to really disrupt and destroy an entire business and this is i.o.t. they put the devices in the hands of everyone not just in china but in multiple merging markets and gives them a platform to deliver services at a high margin. emily: mark, you cover apple. is this worth twice as much as apple? >> if you look at unit sales that apple is selling at, it is unprecedented, but if you go in terms of delivering services across the world, that is where the lucrative macts are. you see them all shifting. they are a china-based company and have so much companies and everyone else trying to get a piece of the pie. it is a whole different world, and it is not ahead of the pack. emily: you heard the company make the argument that they are a new species, are they really different? >> there is nothing new there. >> in the i.o.t. space, you had these makers, like fitbit, they wiped all o

they don't all look the same, which i think is fantastic. emilyo think success is when a woman engineer or a woman ceo is normal. or a woman running for president , or being president is normal. will that happen in our lifetime? melinda: yes. absolutely it will. and i completely agree with you. when you have women at the top, and the reason it is so important, is they role model. other little girls can look up and go, i can be like her who is president. i can be like that movie producer. i can be like that director. i can be like that person who is creating amazing content. so thoe important. but you are starting -- you are really seeing it happen. the sparks are all there. and we need to help keep it going. emily: and a woman president , too? do you think that will happen? melinda: in my lifetime, definitely, i think that will happen. emily: melinda gates, thank you for joining us on bloomberg "studio 1.0." it has been great to have you. ♪ ♪ 2, down. back up. our phones are more than just phones. they're pocket-sized personal trainers. [ upbeat m

they don't all look the same, which i think is fantastic. emilyo think success is when a woman engineer or a woman ceo is normal. or a woman running for president or being president is normal. will that happen in our lifetime? melinda: yes. absolutely it will. and i completely agree with you. when you have women at the top, and the reason it is so important, is they role model. other little girls can look up and go, i can be like her who is president. i can be like that movie producer. i can be like that director. i can be like that person who is creating amazing content. and so those role models are important. but you are starting -- you are really seeing it happen. the sparks are all there. we need to help keep it going. emily: and a woman president too? do you think that will happen? melinda: in my lifetime, definitely, i think that will happen. emily: melinda gates, thank you for joining us on bloomberg "studio 1.0." it has been great to have you. ♪ retail. under pressure like never before. and it's connected technology that's moving companies

i learned to program with the guys. emilyyou went on to microsoft where you got your first job in 1987. paint the picture of the early years at microsoft. melinda: i was so excited when i got this job. i knew they were on the forefront and i believed in what they were doing. because i had this technology background, i could move up on the business side quickly to manage whole teams of coders, people in user education, marketers, program managers. i had a decision to make a few months after i was at the company. it was tough. i was used to working in very all-male environment in college. it was abrasive and combative. i thought maybe, i will just quit and go somewhere else. i can get a great job anywhere else. i thought maybe there is something about me that doesn't fit. it took me a while to realize, no, it's this culture. i don't want to be like that. i tried on being myself. it ended up being successful. emily: you met bill at microsoft. you got married in 1994 and you left microsoft in 1996. you have become one of the worl

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emily's response? >> her response was yes. >> what was the second one? >> i if she was worried that alex would harm her or kill her. >> what was emily's response? >> she nodded her head yes. >> less than a week later, emily fazzino was dead. prosecutors said there was only one conclusion, alex murdered his wife. >> the only explanation here, after looking at all the evidence, all the circumstances, the head injuries were inflicted, and who would have done that? alex fazzino. >> now it was the defense's turn. this was to be a trial of two emilys. >>> coming up -- >> did you drink a lot tonight? >> no, i had three cocktails. >> the surprise evidence alex had up his sleeve. >> what's the matter? what did you -- >> emily under the influence? when "dateline" continues. got simparica now. simpari-what? simparica is what kills tick and fleas, like us. kills? kills! studies show at the end of the month, it kills more ticks in less time than frontline plus and nexgard. guess we should mosey on. see ya never, roxy! use simparica with caution in dogs with a history of s

i wasn't a president with an asterisk, or some special status. emily: i would love for all the little girls watching to learn how you got there. you were born in new york, raised in virginia, had three brothers. what was that like? drew: i grew up on a farm and was always a tomboy. i worked in the barn raising animals and i played war with my brothers, but i was always aware that there were privileges they had that i didn't. that things were expected of me, in terms of wearing a little lacy dresses at appropriate times and exhibiting a demeanor that did not always seem to me consistent with being as noisy and boisterous as my brothers were allowed to be, so i had an astute sense early on that girls were given certain roles, and that society in virginia in the 1950's -- that i was not entirely comfortable being relegated to such a role. emily: what did you believe that women could and couldn't achieve? drew: i did not have many models of women in the workforce or who had careers. my mother didn't finish high school. my grandmother was a force in her own

i think it is possible. emily: how forthcoming do you think google and apple will be? rk: i don't know about apple, but google has been very forthcoming and so has facebook. mark zuckerberg has done a great job in explaining the company's positions. emily: part of the problem is getting the executives there. mark zuckerberg went with no small amount of arm-twisting. senator mark warner had this to say about whether he thinks congress can come up with smart regulations or legislation. >> if congress tries to do this on its own, a lot of my colleagues with expertise in inhnology, i spent a year tech, i've been on this issue for the last 16 months, we need the input of the tech companies or we would mess of the solution. i would hope mark zuckerberg and his colleagues would come forth with what could support on these ideas of how best to pursue. emily: some of the questions lawmakers asked were not particularly well-informed. are you concerned that congress will come up with regulation not helpful with anyone -- for anyone? mark: i think that is a legitimate concern. we di

r.i.m emily chang and san francisco. back to our top story. --i am emily chang in san francisco.k to our top story. alphabet pretty much beating and all metrics. shares are popping in after hours. google ceo sundar pichai speaking on the earnings call talk about emerging markets, ai, the cloud. he says there is an inflection point, talking about the cloud. from bloombergst intelligence. we always want more information about the cloud. what you think he means that there is an inflection point? >> there are two things he mentioned. he talked about diversification. so, a lot of companies are looking to not just talk about one cloud company, but also to spread those, so there's enough room if you look at the end market, there's enough room for apple and google and amazon. so, if you put those things together, you're talking about an end market that has grown more than 35% over the next five or six years. the end market is really that big. if we look at our sizing by 2025, we expect that to be upwards of $20 billion. for threelot of room players. because of that and the diversificatio

i similarly got into it as a teenager. emilydidn't you hack each other's websites or something like that? >> didn't that happen, patrick? >> i think that did happen. i think it's an important duty as a 16-year-old older brother to, you know, help the slightly younger brother. the potential security downsides to some of the work. i took that obligation and duty very seriously. emily: you made it to m.i.t. you made it to harvard. and in 2009, you both dropped out. how did you make that decision? safety in numbers, i suppose. >> exactly. patrick has the honor of dropping out of college twice. but in 2009, we had just started college, and we had been building all sorts of side projects and internet businesses and things like that. and i don't think anyone ever -- certainly in our case, you don't set up to start a huge thing. you don't set out to build a large company. you set out to solve a problem, right? there was this disconnect between the fact that all of these new internet services and businesses were getting started, smart ph

emily: this is "bloomberg technology." i am emily chang in san francisco. back to our top story.etty much beating on all met -- alphabet pretty much beating on all metrics. shares are popping in after hours. google ceo sundar pichai speaking on the earnings call talk about emerging markets, ai, the cloud. he said, that is an inflection point, when commenting on the cloud. we now turn to our expert roundtable to dig in on some of these highlights. we have someone from bloomberg intelligence, and also from "bloomberg technology. we always want more information about the cloud. but they so really give it. what do you think he means by saying that there was an inflection point? >> there are two things he mentioned. he talked about diversification. aret of companies now looking to not just partner with one cloud company, like have your own entire business on amazon, but also spread those bets that you make. so there is enough room for microsoft, google and amazon. diversification benefits all of them. when you put those things together, you're talking about a market that has grown it

emily: i am emily chang in san francisco and is is "bloomberg technology." over 5 millionst subscribers. well over expectations. does it mark the end of an era. amazon crashes on prime day. andthe 36 hour extravaganza $3.4 billion in possible earnings. we speak to the man who heads up the prime business at amazon. and elon musk raises eyebrows again on twitter. this time has the outspoken ceo gone too far? numberss second-quarter are in and the numbers came in well short of expected numbers. subscribers,ew about a million fewer than expected and the trend may continue as netflix announces it plans to add 5 million subscribers in the next quarter again. the numbers are plunging. why the subscriber slow down? nieves and indan studio we have bloomberg tech editor tom giles. were expecting 6 million subscriber ads. i know you are bullish. what went wrong? >> a negative punch. expecting a bead on the subscriber number. predicting so it, much international growth will add some quarter to quarter. we have seen some blowout results. this is what i view as more of a

emily: it has been a while. i will be honest. >> "stranger things", we were on the edge of our seats. emily: and they don't have a seasonal schedule which gives them more flexibility but it also leaves people frustrated. >> it is not like when we were growing up. in the fall you knew you would get the new shows. you got the upfront advertising. that is all gone away. and in many ways, that has been the strength of the streaming services. amazon is the same way. at the same time, it leaves the rest of us guessing -- when will that happen again? and they are few and far between for netflix. one of the bright spots has been a comedy show. people talking about that and getting excited but it is a one-off. it is not a series. dan also talked about international growth. netflix has talked about getting original program in countries like india. that can make a really big difference. once you start creating shows that people in other countries can get excited about. emily: netflix is feeling the punch. we have been talkin

this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: this is bloomberg technology. i am emily chang in san francisco.ngs don't seem as good as they once were for facebook. for the first time, facebook missed estimates on revenue. zuckerberg document gdp our laws. -- talked about gdp our laws. mark zuckerberg: gdpr was a big time for our industry. we saw a decline in active users in europe. at the same time, we had users confirm they want to make asthma relevant and improve overall services. emily: joining us, james and martin. martin, you don't have a position in facebook but you do , follow the company closely. how much does this have to do with concerns about data and privacy? martin: we don't have a position in facebook because its esg score is relatively poor compared to the rest of the tech sector. it didn't meet the cut off to be included in the portfolio. emily: what does that mean? martin: in terms of scores for environmental, social, and governance, compared to the rest of its peers, it scored poorly, and that was related to data privacy and security concerns which caused it to be downgraded

me and one of the black hawks. >> dana: i like that. >> jesse: you are doing so well. >> emily: chased squirrel with that hat on. that's my car. greg was telling me about his car. i pick my engine is bigger. >> greg: '72, right? >> dana: dude drive that everywhere? does seattle give you the steam guy when you drive around her neck? >> emily: i got more negative looks. in seattle, i just said -- >> dana: beautiful car. >> greg: haughty make of the idea of anxiety? could it be a class action lawsuit against trump? >> emily: they could certainly try. we saw that a suit about caffeine and coffee in california. i feel like it's one more thing where the reality, people want to be outraged rather than informed. the whole thing is ridiculous. to me, it's an oversimplification of the matte matter. i have trump anxiety syndrome so it must mean x, y, and z. what is that the root of? fear and fright is usually from lack of education. if we could talk about things, people wouldn't be so frightened of the positive news coming out of the administration. >> greg: if you are offended, you are complicit

because i very much like the u.s. emilycaroline, was the eu prepared for this kind of backlash from the united states and perhaps directly from the president? caroline: i think she was. she refrain herself from saying -- refrained herself from saying fake news but this is generally a woman who has plenty of criticism that she targets the u.s. successful tech companies. should -- some claim she does this to put europe on a fairer footing or push back the dominance of tech companies. and i asked her directly, are you expecting criticism from donald trump, she dodged that question trying to focus on similarities and the fact that they have shared views in terms of the customer comes first. what she is saying is that no, she does not in any way have an issue with dominance of google in the eu as long as they play by the rules. that is the key takeaway. she felt they have had illegal behavior and that is why they face limbs -- face this $5 million fine. are not herse personal feelings as to why she has gone off on google. she is

hooi: i wish i could tell you. emily: tencent? hooi: i hope not.e used to be called the uber of southeast asia. we want to be the grab of southeast asia. but we are focused on his understanding what are the key everyday pinpoints of grab becoming the everyday super app and solving that with this many partners. emily: grab cofounder, thank you so much for stopping by. i had this hour, is tech taking our job? a genetic scientist proves it may be creating more opportunities. bloomberg tech's live streaming on twitter, you can check us out @technology. and be sure to check out our news platform on twitter. tictoc. this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: ibm one back investor trust one day after announcing second-quarter earnings that beat consensus estimates. the manufacturer reporting a 2% revenue gain and $20 billion in the second quarter while were $19.9 billion. this is the first growth after of revenue decline. investors want to see other improvement in cognitive revenue. investors are worried that he by -- ebay is losing momentum. he gave a lackluster sales

i think we will see more and more companies created in th ose places. emilyso where want to be putting this money? what is overhyped? crypto? jeremy: we're continuing to invest heavily in crypto. we have been dedicating quite a lot of capital to that. i think it is hard to say that something is overhyped until you see time pass. there are examples where places had the hype get ahead of the reality. space around voice interfaces. although, i think those will be real opportunities as they get further along. emily: you are less on the show when we talked about snap and spectacle. it was a fun shoot. we both walked around san francisco wearing spectacles, which did not pan out and were overhyped. snapchat is struggling as instagram seems to be unstoppable. do you still think it has the potential to get to one billion users? jeremy: never bet against the team at snap. the level of product insights they have has always been extra mary. they have been talking about being a camera for's company for a long time. now there are more companies coming around to that persp

emily: i am emily chang in san francisco. this is "bloomberg technology." facebook reported weaker than expected revenue and monthly and daily active users in its second-quarter results. plus, on the heel of facebook's results, investors gave a thumbs down to several tech peers in market trading. qualcomm terminates its deal to end to axp bringing an nearly two-year saga. we discuss where they go from here. story, facebook shares tanked in after-hours trading after a lackluster second-quarter report. this is the first time they see user disenchantment in the midst of the scandals. the tech giant missed estimates on revenue for the first time since 2015. investors seem to be shocked the social platform's revenue is not continuing. facebook also missed the monthly daily active users. users remained the same in the milliontates and at 185 and declining in europe to 279 million. from new york, we have david kirkpatrick. we also have melissa parish of you marketer. melissa, what is the biggest headline here -- of e-marketer. melissa, what is the biggest headline

emily: this is a bloomberg technology. i am emily chang.de its first big foray by launching snap kit. they linked up with pandora. they are expanding pandora social capabilities. pandora and snap are not the first to do this. earlier it was announced this year that instagram would partner with spotify. we're joined by roger lynch, ceo of pandora. in september.dora this is the first time you are joining us. how much business has this driven? roger: it will roll out later today on ios. it is too early to tell. music is fundamentally a social experience. the ability to share it on snap is meaningful. emily: instagram has a host -- close relationship with spotify. is that why you picked snap? roger: we chose snap because they have a younger listener base. they tend to be more engaged with music. it was a big social media platform that had not enabled music sharing and away we thought we could do something unique with. emily: pandora has been going through a lot lately. a lot of executive turnover. how have things changed since then? investors w

i hope google would not cut that out. emily: you have been accused of crossing the line, of suppressing the black vote. you hired in cambridge analytica. >> i have been accused of it or bloomberg said it? emily: quoting a trump campaign official that there were attempts to suppress the black vote. >> an anonymous trump campaign official, right? yes. no, that is something that we we did. do we show negative ads? yes. do we suppress anyone's vote or intentions to do so? no. emily: that was our exclusive conversation with president trump's campaign manager. shortly after the interview, president trump did retreat from his statements in helsinki saying he accepts at conclusion that russian metal. but as we said, he quickly introduce doubt. meantime, top republican lawmakers attacked one of the legal protections most prized by social media companies. they are questioning whether they should be held liable for content posted by users. bob good lie asked companies why they should be treated differently from hotels, who face legal resp

♪ emily: i am emily chang in san francisco and this is "bloomberg technology."oogle slapped with a $5 billion fine from eu antitrust enforcers who ordered the company to chase away its certain browser apps on android devices. commissionern margaret joins us ahead. plus, he is known for not holding back. we will hear from former microsoft ceo steve ballmer on leadership in both tech and oil. tech companies in china are thriving things to the country's 2025 initiative. is it all in jeopardy as trade tensions lie? it is a record that google wishes it had not set. the european union has find the company $5 billion over its android policy. that is the biggest fine ever in an antitrust case. the eu says illegal practices on devices pushe google services in front of users. google was also ordered to change the way it but rouser apps on android smartphones. joining us from brussels is caroline hyde who caught up with the eu commissioner margaret, right after this decision was made. you got the first tv interview posted this decision. what were the tekey takeaways? carol

>> i am. emily: at twice the price of apple? >> i am. think the business is underestimated and misunderstood. i think it is a company that delivered a product, hardware that is actually a delivery device for multiple services. in order to be a $100 billion company, they have to really disrupt and destroy an entire business and in this case it is i.o.t. what they have done is democratized. they put the devices in the hands of everyone. not just in china, but in multiple merging markets and gives them a platform to deliver services at a very high margin. emily: mark, you cover apple. is this worth twice as much as apple? >> if you look at unit sales that apple is selling at, it is unprecedented, but if you go back to what ben was saying in terms of delivering services across the world, that is where the lucrative markets are. we see apple, google, amazon all shifting towards this services strategy. the problem is they are a china-based company and have so much competition in the services world. we have tencent and everyone else trying to g

i think we will see a successful trump 2020. emilyit is ironic you are frustrated by facebook, given that some people think facebook played a critical role in winning the election. mr. parscale: i have been specific that i think facebook won in a lot of ways. won, facebook is the .1% that delivered his message. if facebook hadn't existed, it would be tougher. facebook connected the country, people of different backgrounds. it is doing exactly what it was designed to do, connect us all. i think facebook also is a liberal company. maybe its management isn't, but it has inherited bias. it is based in a place that is probably extremely biased. i can see it talking to you. northern california is not eastern kansas. and their employees have bias. those decisions probably go into everything they do. that is something they have to try to kill. i will tell you, i think facebook, probably more than all of the companies, is trying to kill it. the question is if they can crush that. i don't know if they can. i think the inherent bias is significa

emily: or just in general? skip: i it is in the tech sector where we see some of this and a little bit of overhyped delivering long-term. emily: skip fleshman, thank you for stopping by. facebook's what's app payment services rolled out in india and was stalled after how the data of the people will be stored. it's beta trial drew most one million people since february. a delay could help alibaba back a mogul -- a local market leader. the warnings are picking up in the public and private sector. hackers attempting to interfere once again in a 2018 midterm election. we will speak to the ceo of cloud player about what they are doing to prevent breaches, next. this is bloomberg. ♪ retail. under pressure like never before. and it's connected technology that's moving companies forward fast. e-commerce. real time inventory. virtual changing rooms. that's why retailers rely on comcast business to deliver consistent network speed across multiple locations. every corporate office, warehouse and store near or far covered. leaving

emily: is that something everyone would do? skip: ink it will be based atconditions we already look today. family history, age, etc.. we are hopeful we can detect multi-cancer aspects. emily: there's concern that the cancer field could be overhyped. cancer is a whole different ballgame. it is a tricky place. about it and -- once you trigger the immune system to turn on, they can fight the tumors but also fight healthy organs. emily: what about gene editing? tell me more about where you see real potential there. skip: gene editing is a pretty early sector. we invested in a couple of companies in the public market. diseases andrphan thatfour or five areas they are going after. they are curing certain types of genetic diseases that can be fatal. --ly: training -- occurring curing and babies yet to be born? skip: know this is children or adults. emily: what will be possible in 10 years that is not today? you are on the front edges of this. skip: i think detecting cancel early, and wer are seeing the digital world beginning to intersect wit

and i think that is the win-win that we want to get to. emilyuld be remiss if i did not ask you about multiple criminal investigations that your former employer has into uber, including one that the company paid bribes overseas, gravol where they used fake cars to avoid law enforcement, all of this allegedly. health software used to track which drivers whether uber stole , trade secrets from waymo from and whether they violated anti-pricing pricing , antidiscrimination laws. any updates? >> [laughter] tony: you know, i now know what it feels like to be on the other side of me a few years ago. look, without confirming any of that, look, i will say this. we continue to be very cooperative with regulators who are investigating a whole host of issues. that is the approach that dara believes in, that i believe in. you know, i think a couple of challenges that we engaged when we started, one was cultural change. that was job number one, as anybody will tell you. any ceo will tell you the most , important thing about a company is its culture, everythin

this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: this is "bloomberg technology." i am emily chang in san francisco.s been more than two years since great britain voted to leave the european union. it was all but settled, but now the road ahead is being questioned. the prime minister has proposed to keep written closely aligned with the european union on trade and regulations after brexit, and while most of her conservative party seems happy, the move toward a softer brexit led to the resignation of her chief brexit negotiator david davis and foreign secretary boris johnson, the face of the campaign to quit the eu. pm may: we do not agree that the best way to bring our shared commitment to honor the referendum is a proposal that would take back control of our borders, our money, and our laws. protects in a way that jobs, allows us to strike new trade deals through independent trade policy, and keeps our people safe and our union together. emily: with may's own future and the future of the uk's trade relationship and a possible second referendum in the balance, what does this mean for britain's vibra

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i am more of a stress case. my brother is more easy-going comparatively. emily: you were born in tehran. u were six years old when the iran-iraq war broke out. what was living through that like? >> it was horrific. my childhood, i remember feeling scared most of the time. either scared of my neighborhood being bombed, which is certainly was, and i also remember always being worried about something would happen to my parents. that i would come home from school and it would not have my parents there anymore. there was a period during the bombardment when we would spend overnights in the basement holding our ears, because our neighborhood was actually being bombed. so it was pretty rough. i will say though, having gotten out of that, it is certainly something that makes me feel much stronger, because i feel like i can take on anything. if you can survive that, it makes day-to-day problems today seem much easier to deal with. emily: how did your parents communicate to you what was going on? >> one of the things i remember is my dad, he tried to make it seem like the bombardment wasn't actuall

you get to this point where anything goes, and i think things got out of control. emily you think at this stage your cousin can turn things around? >> i do. it is still in credibly healthy business at its core. consider the tumult where the entire senior staff was axed. did we miss anything, cars not picking up their passengers? he is a prince among men, who inherently because of the humility and personal respect his character brings, people want to see him succeed. the sheer goodness of his character is enough to change some of the things. changing the culture, as hadi mentioned, and changing how people interact with the company. the key to getting u.s. education to adopt computer science has been the american teacher. ♪ emily: there is something missing from your stories about people that you have funded in the network, and that is women. i am curious about how you would describe the role of women in the early days of the dotcom boom, and how you have seen that evolve or not evolve. >> the lack of women in tech bothers us. our mom had a masters in computer science, so

i am surprised. emily blunt was brilliant. i do like her. she is not back this time. in this sequel, the original starred emily blunt. they are all gone. now, we have a sequel in the age in which it turns out that trafficking people is more profitable than trafficking drugs, the authorities in america become alarmed to find out that they think that isis terrorists are coming into america across the mexican border. so, josh brolin basically enlists benicio del toro's lawyer turned hit man to run a covert operation to kidnap the daughter of a cartel owner and make it look like it was one of the other cartels to start a war, which will make them easier to fight. here is a clip. no rules this time. turning you loose. how loose? carlos reyes. how's that for loose? it's your chance to get even for your family. are you going to help us start a war? with who? everyone. it is an odd film. on one hand, it plays into a bunch of very contemporary paranoias, the mexican border. it is the us—mexico border and so topical. on the one hand, it exploits those fears and later on it under

i would bet every day of the week on amazon. emily: why? >> because i think jeff has just shown so much more ability to navigate the end consumer's attention which i think is the ultimate value in society. i think that tim, a, is an incredible guy and i like a lot of the things he is trying to push to stand for. but he's been the c.e.o. now seven, eight years. i'm not sure you can help me with this, but ear pods? i've not seen apple win in voice the way they should have, with the lead they had with siri. the home pod still not out there. we've not seen them win an original program. it's before 24, 36 months that cat's been out of the bag. no hardware innovation outside the ear pods that has any flip of anything. all they've done is slowly just advance things that have been in place prior and so at least the way think about the world, i don't look at the numbers and the ways and the short term and maximizing profit the last 90 days. in the long term what it means for consumers, amazon, through a magnitude of things, has done a far better job

emily: i can you make money here? possible that the shampoo and the popcorn is only three dollars? the problem is coming your getting ripped off. the people understood what things cost ursus what you're paying them, you would be freaking out and writing in the streets. people don't actually know what things cost and a kind of know what their budgets are, but they don't really know what things cost. and the better markets, everything we do is better, and they charge more for it, and that's not ok. emily: so where does your stuff come from, and is it actually unique, or is it something i could get somewhere else? tina: we have an extraordinary community of vendors. almost all of our food is from north america, though there are organic olive oils from italy and organic pasta. we have products from all over. in theveloped them so beauty and personal care area, a lot of those are formulations that we are in the lab doing. our food scientists are working with the various manufacturers and in some cases, if her sugar,ng orga

i can take on anything. if you can survive that, it makes day-to-day problems today seem much easier to deal with. emily: how did your parents communicate to you what was going on? >> one of the things i remember is my dad, he tried to make it seem like the bombardment wasn't actually our neighborhood. he would say that these planes are breaking the sound barrier so you can hear them from miles away. he would wake up in the morning to go see whose homes were still standing. emily: what did your parents do? >> my dad was the head of a that sharif was a professor of a university of technology called sharif university. my mom had a masters in computer science. she was a systems analyst. once the revolution happened, it was hard to keep a job. women were so oppressed at the time. emily: and in the midst of this, is that when you learn how to code? >> yes, when we were 10 years old. >> nine years old, actually. my dad had gone to a physics conference and brought back a commodore 64. this was 1981 or so? no games, no software, just a couple books on how to program in basic. he spent maybe the first hour or tw