rosenstein, mr. wray, i appreciate your work but i'd also appreciate the house of representatives could get the information. mr. gowdy talked about how long there's been a special counsel. we started asking for information in july of last year and some of that is still not given -- still hasn't been give to the congress. still has not been give on the the committee charged with defending the judiciary committee. so, i > appreciate what you do. i want the information and we're so frustrated there's a resolution on the floor of the house that will be voted on. resolutionsave any on what you have to vote on. >> i know you don't. >> the gentleman will suspend. the time is now the attorney general's. >> if you're interested in the truth, mr. jordan, the truth is we have a team of folks that are trump appointees and career folks and they're doing their best to produce these documents. director wray explained the process. he's got hundreds of people working around the clock trying to satisfy these requests so wh

mr. wray has a relationship with mr. mueller he admits predates this investigation. he and mr. rod rosenstein have personal and professional relationships with mueller, that make it impossible to manage his investigation or help him manage the investigation. we're not getting any protection from the direct or of the fbi, or mr. rod rosenstein, on the mueller investigation. and you know, nailed it in the beginning, you said conducting foreign policy, the justice department, mueller, doj, russia indictment is the doj deep staters hijacking our foreign policy with respect to russia. they supposely told president trump before the summit with putin, we're going to indict all these guys, what do you think about it? what is she going t she he goin- what is he going to say? don't do it? you have this intervention in foreign policy with these indictments that are really press releases in a sense they will never see trial, it is distorting our relationship with russia. i am no fan of putin, but i don't want the justice department running the show. lou: justice department has very little

if you take a look at the people who were in charge, mr. wray, who was not a democrat, mr. comey who was appointed by mr. trump, he is not a democrat. i happen to know that robert mueller is not a democrat. these are not political decisions made by political operatives, they should be following the evidence. i just like to note that if you had wanted to harm and interfere with the election of president trump, you could have leaked information that the investigation was ongoing. none of that came out. we asked the leaders of the department of justice and the fbi about whether there was an investigation of mr. trump prior to the election and we were told they could not comment on it, which was in fact the appropriate response. you should not comment on an ongoing investigation. if you find something, you have an indictment. if you don't find something you say nothing. that's where mr. comey errored, he violated that policy and damage the campaign of one of the candidates and the rest is history. i just think that this extraordinary hearing, i've been a member of congress for

that's not my understanding and, in fact, if you take a look at the people in charge, you got mr. wray who was appointed by mr. trump who was not a democrat, mr. comey, who was appointed by mr. trump, he's not a democrat. i happen to know that robert mueller is not a democrat. so these are not political designates made by political operatives. they should be following the evidence. i just would like to note that if, you if you had wanted to harm and interfere with the election of president trump, you could have leaked information that the investigation was ongoing. but none of that came out. as a matter of fact, we asked the leaders of the department of justice and fbi about whether there was an investigation of mr. trump prior to the election and we were told they could not comment on it, which was, in fact, the appropriate response. you should not comment on an ongoing investigation if you find something, you have an indictment, if you don't find sorry you say nothing. that's where mr. comey erred. he violated that policy and damaged the campaign of one of the candidates and the rest

this was mr. wray.stopher wray. >> the guy who succeeded at the irs came in but instead of cleaning up things, you know, worked his magic to obstruct and so forth. congress is not going to get the information. the american people are not going to know what happened until either congress stands up for itself with contempt finding or impeachment or president trump declassifies. paul: kim, is congress and devin nunes getting the documents that it needs? >> they still haven't received the documents that they need. there's still a standoff in regard to that. mr. nunes gets a lot of attention and rightly so because he's unraveled so much of this. there's a lot of members of congress that aren't getting what they asked for, chuck grassley put a request out this week demanding for certain things to be handed over but certain things to be made public and declassified so more people can see them. you have mark meadows, jim jordan who sits on oversight committee, they have outstanding document requests, there are

and in fact, if you take a look at the people who were in charge, i mean, you've got mr. wray, who was appointed by president trump, who is not a democrat. mr. comey, who was appointed by mr. trump, he is not a democrat. i happen to know that robert mueller is not a democrat. so these are not political decisions made by political operatives. they should be following the evidence. and i would just like to note that if you had wanted to harm and interfere with the election of president trump, you could have leaked information that the investigation was ongoing. but none of that came out. as a matter of fact, we asked the leaders of the department of just and the fbi about whether there was an investigation of mr. trump prior to the election and we were told they could not comment on it, which was in fact the appropriate response. you should not comment on a going investigation. if you find something, you have an indictment. if you don't find something, you say nothing. that's where mr. comey erred. he violated that policy and he damaged the campaign of one of the candidates. and

mr. wray's answer is we are going to have bias training.fbi agents, even people at the top of counterintelligence circle seem to know that is not right to express your biases over fbi phones to one of the investigations, i mean, it's just incredible. it's a show today. neil: well, i think you both hit on it, both sides try to milk all they can. i don't know where this point. elija, whatever bob mueller comes out with will be compromised or the precedent and what led up to it, was built on, you know, stack of biases and ineptness in the likes that we have never seen. damaged goods, democrats, meanwhile will say there was a lot of there there, remains a lot of there there, this guy was fired after all, it wasn't based on appearance of anything, based on the fact that that would not be tolerated by bob mueller so what's the big deal but ultimately it's a wash, isn't it? >> it really depends who you are and i imagine there aren't a ton of people whose minds have changed but, you know, there's definitely new information being discussed but a lot

this was mr. wray.l: christopher wray. >> the guy who succeeded at the irs came in but instead of cleaning up things, you know, worked his magic to obstruct and so forth. congress is not going to get the information. the american people are not going to know what happened until either congress stands up for itself with contempt finding or impeachment or president trump declassifies. paul: kim, is congress and devin nunes getting the documents that it needs? >> they still haven't received the documents that they need. there's still a standoff in regard to that. mr. nunes gets a lot of attention and rightly so because he's unraveled so much of this. there's a lot of members of congress that aren't getting what they asked for, chuck grassley put a request out this week demanding for certain things to be handed over but certain things to be made public and declassified so more people can see them. you have mark meadows, jim jordan who sits on oversight committee, they have outstanding document requests, the

not my understanding, and, in fact, if you take a look at the people who are in charge, you've got mr. wray appointed by president trump who was not a democrat. mr. comey, who was appointed by mr. trump. he's not a democrat. i happen to know that robert mueller is not a democrat. so these are not political decisions made by political operatives. they should be following the evidence. and i would just like to note that if you had wanted to harm and interfere with the election of president trump, you could have leaked information that the investigation was ongoing. but none of that came out. matter of fact, we asked the leaders of the department of justice and fbi about whether there was an investigation of mr. trump prior to the election, and we were told they could not comment on it which was the appropriate response. you should not comment on an ongoing investigation if you find something, you have an indictment. if you don't find something you say nothing. that's where mr. comey erred. he violated that policy and damaged the campaign of one of the candidates and the rest is history. so i

not my understanding, and, in fact, if you take a look at the people who are in charge, you've got mr. wray appointed by president trump who was not a democrat. mr. comey, who was appointed by mr. trump. he's not a democrat. i happen to know that robert mueller is not a democrat. so these are not political decisions made by political operatives. they should be following the evidence. and i would just like to note that if you had wanted to harm and interfere with the election of president trump, you could have leaked information that the investigation was ongoing. but none of that came out. matter of fact, we asked the leaders of the department of justice and fbi about whether there was an investigation of mr. trump prior to the election, and we were told they could not comment on it which was the appropriate response. you should not comment on an ongoing investigation if you find something, you have an indictment. if you don't find something you say nothing. that's where mr. comey erred. he violated that policy and damaged the campaign of one of the candidates and the rest is history. so i

mr. president? >> fbi director chris wray telling me -- >> the intelligence community's assessment has not changed. my view has not changed. which is that russia atted to interfere with the last election and that it continues to engage and malign, influence operations to this day. >> aimed at our political considered quitting. >> i'm a low key guy, but that shouldn't be mistaken for what my spine is made out of. >> so you have -- >> i'll leave it at that. >> okay. >>> and wray weighing in on the idea of a russian offer to allow u.s. prosecutors to travel to moscow to watch questioning of russian agents under u.s. indictment. >> would you ever envision a world in which you would allow suspects to be interviewed by russia and observe? re: well, i never want to say never about anything, but it's certainly not high on our list of investigative techniques. [ laughter ] >> there has also been the suggestion from putin that he would want to come -- have interview americans. is that something that you would support? >> that's probably even lower on our list of investigative ing at the techniques. >> now wi

>> i agree 100% with director wray. >> mr. trump, the president, was asked the question just last wednesday, is russia still tarktitarkt i -- targeting the u.s., mr. president? answer, thank you very much. no. question, no, you don't believe that to be the case? answer, no. do you agree with the president? >> i'm not sure what happened in this exchange, but i firmly believe the russians continue to attack a target, not just our democracy in general but our critical infrastructure in particular. >> so you disagree with the president? >> no, sir, i'm not saying that. >> you just did. >> sir -- >> the gentleman yields back. the gentlelady from north carolina is recognized. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. mr. krebs, and all of our witnesses today, thank you for being here. i'm a firm believer before any problem can be addressed, we need to find where the responsibility lies. as we all know, much of the administration of u.s. elections is specifically delegated to the states through the elections clause of the constitution. a

mr. director. what do you make of wray's comments? that is the most forthcoming he's been. it's a time, we should point out, that there are -- i think he's someone, it's fair to say, that is respected inside the fbi and around the country by fbi agents and other employees of the fbi, but i think he is so reserved, he's so low key as he just said, that i think there are still some questions about whether he's going to be the guy that throws his body in front of the daily barrage of bullets from donald trump. >> i think there were a couple of things that were noteworthy from what he said. one, it's remarkable that you see all of these officials who don't even try to pretend everything is okay. he might as well have said, yeah, i threatened to resign over the president compromising national security. >> and so the nunes memo is the first time we know of wray going up to the hill and being rebuffed by paul ryan, by devin nunes and by the president himself who released that memo redacted again with the informant, rebuffed by the same people and the president on twitter announced

mr. horowitz has admitted that..e why hasn't christopher wray instead of getting idiotic testimony to the find out where the hell those texts are? if they can figure out how to tap donald trump's campaign, why can't they find fbi employees text messages? >> brian: fbi director chris ray used his time to praise the fbi in general. i found his press conference totally insulting, as if he's protecting something he had no culpability, he should be more outraged than you. >> and ask yourself this question, why isn't he outraged? the answer is very simple. of h chris wray and rod rosenstn are careerists. they believe that the barrel and the department of justice people even under barack obama could do no wrong. if they did dodo wrong, it's woh saving them and not having them pilloried in public because these institutions are too important. nonsense. these institutions are too important not to have the truth come out. we have to know all of these facts. where is chris wray, what is he doing, he's on a milk carton. >> brian: missing but he's certainly not taking an active role. thanks so much is

do you still trust director christopher wray? mr. strzok: yes. rep. lieu: attorney general jeff sessions made political contributions. i still trust that if there's a case involving a democrat or republican or independent that attorney general jeff sessions could look at the facts and the law and apply it in an unbiased manner. do you still trust attorney general jeff sessions to do that? in strzok: i don't know him nearly the same capacity i know the director, but he's taken an oath and i trust him to discharge that. rep. lieu: thank you. let me conclude by saying this. we are going to know at some point what the robert mueller investigation found. we already know about the hillary clinton emails because there's been an exhaustive investigation plus this ig report. what we're seeing now is an attack on law enforcement. when i was prosecuting cases, when defendants don't have the facts on their side, they resort to attacking law enforcement. that is what we see happening now. i thought i would end on a quote from sarah huckabee sanders, who said when

mr. president? >> press, let's go. make your way out. >> no, you don't believe that to be the case? >> fbi director chris wray telling me. >> my view has not changed, which is that russia attempted to last election and that he continues to engage in influence operations to this day. >> aimed at ouli cal system? >> aimed at discord and divisiveness to this country. >> i asked wray if he quitting.idered there are stories you threatened to resign. >> i'm a low key under stated guy but that should not be mistaken for what my spine is made out of.e le -- i'll just leave it at that. >> okay. and wray weighing in on the idea of a russian offer allow u.s. prosecutors to travel to moscow to watch questioning of russian agents under u.s. indictment. would you ever invision -- envision a sion a world where you would allow suspects to be interviewed by russia andbserve? >> well, i never want to say never about anything but it certainly is not high on our lisof vestigative techniques. >>here is also the suggestion from putin that he want to come have interview americans. is that something you would support? >> that's prob

fbi chris wray is right now talking to lester holt and they discussed this. >> the offer was made by mr. putin himself to allow u.s. agents to travel to russia and observe the questioning of suspects. first of all, do you think it is a false promise or something that you or the justice department would consider. >> i think i will leave that one to special counsel mueller. >> in general, would you ever envision a world in which you would allow suspects to be interviewed by russia and observed? >> i never want to say never about anything, but not high on our list of investigative techniques. >> congressman, the russian president named bill browder and has asked for mike mcfall an esteemed ambassador to russia. and this is unheard of. >> unheard of, unprecedented. a number of questions on whether this was discussed inside the meeting. questions about whether president trump references in another interview on fox news. the strength, the backbone of nato in article five. that forms the foundation of that treaty. the bottom line, the american public needs to know and has a right to know what

mr. mueller, is the degradation of the federal criminal law enforcement process. you can thank rod rosenstein who set up this phony investigation and christopher wray, the current fbis never once put on his big boy pants and is allowing this to happen. this is an embarrassment to federal law enforcement. every fbi agent, every doj lawyer knows that what your watching is a debasement of federal law enforcement. ought to be an embarrassment to mueller but the truth is mueller stayed too long at the fair. >> tucker: joe degenova. thanks very much. and michael, thanks for joining us. what is your response to the news sources tells us that tony podesta has been offered immunity in order to testify against paul manafort? what would that mean if true? >> completely disgusting, tucker. i can't think of another word for it. this is very clearly partisan. tony podesta didn't just represent the ukrainians and didn't register for them, he registered for uranium one. he represented sparabunk, which is like representing vladimir putin. sparabunk is vladimir putin's hip pocket bank. from my perspective, they're probably giving him immunity, not just because he can do something to

mr. mueller, is the degradation of the federal criminal law enforcement process. and you can thank rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general who set up this phony investigation, and christopher wrayallowing this to happen. this is an embarrassment to federal law enforcement. every fbi agent, every doj lawyer who's worth his or her salt knows what you're watching is a debasement to federal enforcement. the truth is mueller has stayed too long at the fair. >> thank you very much. he has been around the block in this russian nonsense and he joins us tonight. michael, what is your response the news again from two sources telling us podesta has been offered immunity in order to testify against manafort? >> it's completely disgusting, tucker. i can't think of another word for it. this is very clearly partisan. podesta didn't just represent the ukrainians and didn't register for them. that's like representing directly vladimir putin. he's putin's hip pocket bank. from my perspective, they're probably giving him immunity not just because he can do something to hurt manafort because they certainly don't want him talking about uranium one. if there was somebody in washington representing t

mr. jordan. >> i'm saying the department of justice -- >> i'm telling the truth and i'm under oath. >> those are just some of the heated exchanges we saw on thursday as fbi director christopher wraynd deputy attorney general rod rosenstein faced off with members of the house judiciary committee. the house also passed a resolution in the middle of that hearing seeking to compel documents from the justice department regarding the russia investigation. joining our conversation former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance. joyce, i'll start with you on what we just saw. and i know you were paying attention to it over the course of the week. it was really, i thought, a remarkable display for them to so publicly attack rosenstein. >> it was incredible. this was the deputy attorney general, the number two guy in the justice department, testifying under oath and being accused of lying by a member of congress. while that deputy attorney general is in the middle of supervising the turnover to congress of an unprecedented level of documentation in an ongoing investigation. >> and the president has -- he did an interview with maria bartiromo of facts and talked about why he -- or h

in anxcsive interview director wray also brushed off the president'sf criticism some fbi officials and says he has a very professional relationship with mres you have threatened to resign. haveou thiis the h line? a>> i'm low-key understated guy, but that should not be mistaken for what my spine is made outll of. just leave it at that. >> okay. >> wray also said he does not believe special couel robert mueller's russia investigation is a witch h lester will have more of his interview this evening onni "nb tly news." >>> a fast moving wildfire in oregon has now left at least one person dead and forced others from their homes. officials say the victim was apparently trying to u a tractor to build a fire line. the so-called substation fire east of pedtland sta tuesday. it's burned more than 50,000o acres far. it's the largest of some 160 fires burning right now in oregon. the smoke is so thick that people were advised to keep their pets indoors. meanwhile in california fires have led to a mandatory evacuation order near yosemite national park. >>> baltimore has become the first american city to ban sodas from childr's menus in restaura ms.

mr. jordan. >> i'm saying the department of justice. >> i'm telling the truth and i'm under oath. >> those are republicans, republican congressmen, accusing trump's choice to be deputy attorney general, and trump's fbi director, christopher wrayof withholding information in an investigation. what is all the sound and fury in that room about? >> it's called the smell of fear. remember what house republican allies of the president are trying to do. they're nitpicking at the process of the investigation because the facts scare them. i took one big thing away from that. rob rosenstein is standing tough, and remember this, willie, rod rosenstein know what is mueller has already. he is the one person that know what is mueller has already. he shows supreme confidence in every decision he's made. that should scare the president. >> and he stood his ground in that hearing. >> chuck todd, thank you very much. we'll look forward as always to "meet the press" this morning. chuck gets into the supreme court battle with republican senator lindsey graham and democratic senator maria cantwell. >>> our other big story is the dangerous heat wave affecting more than 110 million of you across 22 states. today going to be the hottest day of them

director wray also brushed off the president's criticism of some fbi officials. he says he has a professional relationship with mrat you threatened to resign. have you ever hit a point on that issue of sources and methods or anywhere elsewhere you said this is a line? >> i'm a low key, understated guy, but that should not be mistmi mistaken for what my spine is made out of. >> so you have -- >> i'll just leave it at that. >> okay. >> wray also said he does not believe special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation is a witch-hunt. lester will have more of his exclusive interview this evening on nbc nightly news. >>> meanwhile, out west a fast-moving fire in oregon left one dead and forced others from their homes. officials say the victim was apparently trying to use a tractor to build a fire line. the so-called substation fire east of portland started tuesday. it has burned more than 50,000 acres so far. it is the largest of some 160 fires returning right now in oregon. the smoke is so thick that people were advised to keep their pets indoors. meanwhile, in california fires have led to a mandatory evacuati

mr. president, i want to start with a couple easy questions. a while back we had fbi director christopher wray testify before congress, and he said that he was not specifically directed by the president to address russian interference. i'm just curious, has the president directed you specifically to address the russian interference? >> thank you for the question. >> i think it will be a yes or no. i don't have a whole lot of time here. either he did or he didn't. >> i have been in a policy meeting where the president made it very clear that it is a priority. >> russian interference? >> he made it clear that russian interference is a priority. >> dni, the director of national intelligence, dan coats, said there was no single agency in charge of our sort of countering russian interference. is that still the case, or do you think we have -- do we have a single agency that's taken that over? >> sir, given the range of authorities and capabilities across the federal government, this is a team effort. this is a whole government effort. >> okay. is there a specific white house guidance on the issue?

>> he could say to chris wray i don't think peter strzok needs security clearance anymore, do you, mr: i don't get it? >> they just haven't gone there. i don't get it either. he is working in hr, but still has security clearance. stuart: okay. i'm going to leave it. >> this is an, only in america, i think so. >> yeah. stuart: only you lawyers could -- >> i don't think agent strzok is a lawyer. stuart: he is represented by several i'm sure. >> as you or i would be if congress were after us. stuart: i then yes, might like lawyers a little more. >> not much. stuart: all i want is the english rule, loser pays. >> who would be the loser here? this is congressional investigation. no the adversarial proceeding. stuart: if i sue you for something i pay your fees and mine. >> would love you to pay my fees. stuart: check the dow 30, why don't you bless. still preponderance of red, quite a lot actually. 25 of the dow 30 in the red. they're down. >>> new study, it says your air-conditioning may be a mass killer. great headline. i think some explanation required andnd you'll get it. g♪ copd tries