ms. von der leyen: the letter was unexpected.e i said, it is a goal we've had since we decided on it with president obama. we are on a good way and i think it is important to debate, to talk about the issues that really affect the alliance. who are our opponents? our opponents would be delighted if there's a division in nato. to work on the strengthening of our alliance, to work on the unity, is the most important goal for the summit. francine: the italian government was trying to say the way that defense is calculated is flawed, that it should be targeted spending. do you share the view that a simple percentage of gdp is too simplistic? ms. von der leyen: the percentage of gdp is right because it shows if you have a small gdp, you have a small amount to invest in defense. youru have a large one, defense spending has to be larger. it is only one side of the coin. the other side of the coin is capabilities and contributions. there, the balance sheet of germany is a pretty good one. francine: are you prepared for president trump to