you're right, we saw this in 2006 with mark foley as kid of an exclamation point. we have chris collins today. the fact of the matter is if danny o'connor had shown maybe a little bit more separation from his party, maybe if he had strongly disavowed nancy pelosi, maybe we'd be talking about a win for the democrats from this r plus 7 seat. >> let me follow up on that. is this -- do those folks, democrats sitting in those marginal districts, do they look at danny o'connor coming up short and say, you know what, i'm going to say no to the pelosi question. >> we're already starting to hear it, chuck. we've got a candidate in northern indiana who's disavowed her who might have a shot. there are democrats all over the map in similar districts who know that this is what they have to do to show separation and show that they're the candidates of change. >> all right. david wasserman, pretty much the only person you need to follow on an election night on twitter. david, thank you very much, sir. >> i dispute that, chuck, but thank you very much. >> i know you do. this is wh

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there were a number of republican congressional scandals, the one right before the election was mark foleyin the swamp. is there any difference in how the public perceives this now only anybody tin the sense that of this about trump was aired in 2016. how much was baked in when he was elected. >> i think in 2018, you have an electorate that is convinced that the whole place stinks, swampy with democrats and swampy with republicans. and i think you make a really important point. the culture of corruption argument worked very well for democrats back in the day because the center piece of the corruption and the corruption scandals actually were in the congress. you had all of the jake abramo if. f. here, it is a little bit of a bank shot. collins might make it easier. the better argument for democrats is not just culture of corruption, but more focusing on check on trump, check on power. people understand that this administration needs a little bit of oversight say, and that's where that interesting devin nunes tape comes in. so not just draining the swamp but overseeing the president. >> a c

it was the mark foley scandal ad the hat sort of pushed them over theop t. 1994 when the republicans got it. house banking scandal, yes,re healthca and guns and dan rostkowski sort of got indicted and the corruption th bg, c the exclamation point for a party out of power trying to get back into power. th timing in this couldn't have been worse. >> when things reach critical mass. >> would it resonate with the voters enough? >> ct's notis collins individually, it's chris collins plus -- police maybe the president's hotel and you though in wilbur ross. look at the headl the last week, it's not -- it's never one. i don't think one resonates beyond a district. it's when you can p a picture or paint a pattern, oh, you know, they got special deal. jared kushner's real estate company suddenly gets bled out by company that's partially government. qatari it's more a collection of stories or is it the whole town? he said drain the swamp and using the president's words. is he getting swamping in there or letting other alligators roam around the town. >> and now breath kavanaugh has a scheduled

-- the culture of corruption tag can have the same impact as it might have had in 2006 with the mark foley scandals because the news cycle is so fast and so furious. and we have so many of these stories. i think we have seen the impact go down which is regrettable to some extent. >> can i say something in defense of this town? there's a culture of integrity. what about the justice department? they indicted, trump's justice department, people that report to people -- yes. it's impressive. >> u.s. attorney berman appointed by president trump. >> we should be a little -- there's a culture of corruption and something impressive about the justice department has behaved in this instance. >> to add a nuance to this, saying how brazen it is, i remember when i was in the state house in jefferson city and would see on a bill about pharmacy benefits, somebody would say i'm a pharmacist and going -- i remember like my head exploding thinking, perhaps then you shouldn't speak on this. because it has a financial interest for you and i would go back to the idea that frequently and i think this happens in

they seem to forgot what happened to them in the 2006 midterms when there was a coverup with the mark foleyngress then. they seem to be unaware of the larger moment in american history where you have got all these sexual abuse revelations, starting back in the penn state case and the joe paterno team. you can only imagine what democrats will do over the next few weeks, given all the attacks on nancy pelosi in the past. what would happen if nancy pelosi was the speaker? you can imagine the ads on what if jim jordan was the speaker of the house? >> do you think this cuts across party lines out there? >> absolutely. this is one of those issues that does cut through because unfortunately sexual abuse has, you know, hurt so many people in our country. and even people who aren't victims of it certainly can understand. this isn't a partisan or political issue. it is a character issue. >> right. it goes to not only what happened, how did it look in the moment from what someone saw, but given what has been called out in the reckoning, how do you deal with it now? that's where he's under extra scruti

so but to get to jen's point, i happen to be on the ballot in 2006 when the dnc and we had mark foleyi raid a week before the election. it can have -- trust me, a cumulative affect and jen is right. nothing that cuts across party line like swarmy corruption. if this continues. i'm not saying this is not bad enough, this is going to be ugly election for republicans. >>> next, new information in court about the suspect in the murder of a college student. why he didn't raise any red flags with his employer. stay with us. i'm beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors. it's not just picking a surgeon, it's picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are. visit cancercenter.com/breast oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? (vo) and you may lose weight. in the same one-year study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. oh! up to 12 pounds? (vo) a tw

this is after the mark foley scandal. -- can be tough when there are head winds already for one party to have individual members of that party get in trouble with the law. >> completely. i don't think it is enough. i read the indictment. it looks pretty clear cut to me. i think he will have an uphill legal battle. they will start feeding the conspiracy theory that the only reason this happened is for that reason. i think that republicans will make a big mistake if they are only centered on we need to be there for trump. what we find with republican voters now is that they are saying don't like the persona, love the policy. i can hold my nose for some time because i like the policy that is being implemented. republicans need to go home and talk about economics, jobs, the economy, education, health care, all the things that there are republican and conservative answers for and things that they have accomplished. small business through some of the regulatory relief is hiring more people than ever including african-americans

seemeded to have forgotten what happened to them in the 2006 midterms when there was a cover-up of the mark foley obviously weren't in congress then but you would think they were politically aware. they seem to be unaware of the larger moment in american history where you have got all these sexual abuse revelations, starting back in the penn state case and the joe paterno team. more recently michigan state. this seems like an untenable thing for jordan particularly as a speaker candidate, one of the democratic groups going after one of his fellow ohioans they're asking if he will support jordan for speaker. oh, my god, what would happen nancy pelosi was the speaker. you can imagine a series of democratic ads on what if jim jordan was the speaker of the house >> do you think this cuts across party lines out there? >> absolutely. this is one of those issues that does cut through because unfortunately sexual abuse has, you know, hurt so many people in our country. and even people who aren't victims of it certainly can understand. this isn't a partisan or political issue. it is a character issue. >>

and the whole mark foley scandal fed into that and gave -- >> sex scandals, it was gros. >> it was all comprehensive and it was gros. and i think and to some degree a lot of democratic strategists think they can rerun that play book. the truth is you need to actually put out an actual contractor formula. a set of principles you want to apply to washington, d.c. and one of the things you can do with relation to chris collins is you're allowed to serve on a board of a company if you're a member of congress. you take no compensation. >> amazing. >> you are allowed to do these types of tratdes, provide you don't do insider information. there are dubious things that could target legislation, reformed legislation, but we don't see the democratic party making that into a case yet. >> everyone around this table is too young to remember a thing i remember vividly which is the 1994 midterms which is -- >> speak for yourself. >> you're too young to remember. i'm the only old man old enough to remember this. that election when republicans took back control of the house the first time in 40 years,

it reminds me of 2006 with mark foley. obviously, a different kind of case, but they were also able to say this was more broadly the republican party. and you don't want them in control anymore. >> issuing a statement showing this shows a rampant culture of corruption. self-enrichment of republicans in washington today. i'm going to guess that's going to show up in campaign ads pretty soon. >> the timing is horrible for the republican leadership. collins is not a senior member. he's not a part of the leadership but he is a frequent defender of the president on television. 89 days from midterm election and it's already a steeper than steep hill for the republican party anden wham. one of your members accused of this. >> and any seat that can potentially be in play is bad for the gop because they're playing so close to the wire and a good thing for democrats. any high-profile person, it's not like it's paul ryan or something, but has a potential ricocheting effect on how people start to view and question the integrity of var

mark is a jimmy john's kickin' ranch freak, pureeing hot cherry peppers into fresh buttermilk with the fervor of a kid at the gates of an amusement park. freaky fresh. freaky fast. jimmy john's. freak yeah. >>> foleyeline jumper, 18. he hits it with five seconds. >> 24 years after the one-time hometown hero named tom foley made coldwater history, the now-convicted murderer of the same name sat behind bars awaiting his sentence. you ready to spend the rest of your life if prison? >> no, absolutely not. >> to tom foley's attorney tom schaeffer and his private eye ken kobersteen, the guilty verdict landed like a crushing blow. >> this is a grassroot who done it, and we thought we had shown that it wasn't this person who had done it. >> i was devastated. when this ended i could have walked into a wall. >> but just one day after tom foley's conviction, a woman stepped forward. she had new information that suddenly gave new life to tom's defense. >> she came forward and said, i saw this white car storming out of the driveway, almost hit me. it looked like somebody was either high or running away from something. >> the woman was certain the driver was coming out of the heath bar farm right around the tim