one of the things we're striving to bring back to monticello is that monticello is more than just this house on the hill. the house is incredibly well preserved and we want people to walk in jefferson's footsteps, but we also want them to understand that monticello had nearly 200 people living here and most of them were enslaved. and so over the past several years, we've been working to restore the landscape of slavery to monticello. so when you walk outside the house, you look down on mull berry row and you can understand that there was a center of industry and enslaved life there. and that if you toured the south wing and the north wings and the dependencies underneath the house, you would see the people that jefferson enslaved here as well. and it was their work that made monticello what it was. and in many senses, jefferson who he was. when people leave monticello, i hope they get a sense of the complexity of jefferson, but also how relevant his story is to the nation that we became. here's a man who wrote "all men are created equal" and yet was a slave holder. here's a man who tru

a bit more of the slave life at monticello, to see how monticello functioned in the plantation context, to see what supported the main house. and we are very, very excited about putting back sally rter, this very important person on the mountaintop and in american history. it is important to remember that monticello is not just a home on a mountain, but a plantation. 5000 acres, eight square miles nearly, and the majority of people that lived here in thomas jefferson's time were enslaved african-americans. it is important to remember that when you look at this home, most of the labor that went into the building of this home was done by enslaved african-americans. jefferson did hire several white workmen, including an irish man. he was assisted by several skilled craftsman of the -- of the enslaved community. monticello is thomas jefferson's home for his entire life. he is born on this plantation in 1783, and inherits it from his father. his father dies when jefferson is 14. as a young man, he will inherit this land as well as the slaves his father owns, and jefferson will decide to bui

so, when jefferson comes home to monticello, his beloved monticello, john meacham loves to say the roads are open, but it's always always jefferson decrying that he can't be in monticello for four years in public service, but he finally comes home in 1889 and never leaves. he almost immediately calls for his daughter and her family to come and live, for her to be the host of the plantation and run it and manage it and bring her family there. i think it's partly because he wants a woman to be in that role, and he can't obviously have his concubine doing that, but i think it's also because he wants to protect her and have her and her children at monticello. >> she does make a couple appearances while jefferson is present. this is martha jefferson randolph. and she is officially his hostess but she's not there a lot. meanwhile dolly madison is on the other side of town creating a whole political center of networks and connections at the white house, and jefferson lets her do it. but there are these moments where she does show up, and i'm thinking of the work of cynthia ke rrk kerner and it'

some douers remain, but experts and monticello itself now consider this a settled matter. >> monticello says he's the father of her children. q >> brown: stion. >> no question. >> brown: this summer the o foundationpened six new exhibits, including the plantation's first kitchen. the archeology uncovered a stew stove of the kind jefferson found and admired in paris, where he served as u.s. amssador to france in the 1780s. sally's brother james hemings was trained in french cooking in paris and used the stove here at monticlo. but the main new addition, in what until now was a public restroom for visitors, is a display on the life of sally hemings, in one of the two rooms researchers now believe she lived in. part of her story is told in the words of her son, madison, who gave an oral history of life at monticello in 1873. sally hemings was just 13 or 14 years old when she went to paris as a maidservant, and the relationship with jefferson, then 43, began. when jefferson returned home, she could have stayed in paris as a free woman, but negotiated terms for returning to monticello: that

when jefferson comes home to monticello to his beloved monticello, john meachum likes to sat roads were open but, of course, it's all jefferson crying he can't be at monticello for 40 years in public service. he finally does come home in 1809 and he never leaves. he almost immediately calls his daughter and family to come and for her to be the hostess of the plantation and bring her family there. i think it's obviously partly because he wants a woman to be in that role and he can't obviously have his relationship doing. that he also wants to protect her and have her and her children at monticello. >> but zhe make a coupshe does f appearances. this is martha jefferson randolph. and she is officially his hostess but she is not there a lot. meanwhile dolly madison is on the other side of town creating a whole political center of networks and connections at the white house, and jefferson lets her do it. but there are these moments where she does show up, and i'm thinking of the work of cynthia kerner and it's when the news about domestic work comes out. this is about it president's white da

everybody comes to monticello and that's how those rooms should look. we said, we've got the cook's quarter right here, people can look at that to see how slaves lived right next door. but we're going to do something different with sally hemmings. and i don't want to -- i just want you all to come. >> no big reveal. >> it's moving, it's theatrical. we said we want people to feel her life and not just know about it. and we also made the decision that we would include nothing without rigorous fact. so as our exhibition designer started weaving things together, oh, we can portray this, we said, no, no, no, no. you can only work off the words from the period we know. what i will tell you we did, because i think it has enormous relevancy to places we are today, unfortunately, in our country. gail, again, i love your introduction because you're giving me a lot of launch pad. we legitimaized the oral histor of her son, which had been ignored for more than 100 years. so when the dna came out, everybody thought, oh, now we know. well, annette gordon reid had com

i have great -- working on understanding monticello. at that point, it had not yet arrived on the mountain to be visible. the last 10 years we have been on a journey to bring all of the research and information into the visitors physical experience but there is another question. that is something that you touched one as well. if we are trying to say you can answer that question but you can devote yourself to an honest and authentic history as you can with as much transparency as punished -- possible. i can't answer the question about how he felt. that would be disingenuous. i think they have rigorously struggled without too big transparent in our history with our prescribing how you are you are you want to answer that question but i think the other question that we should all ask ourselves is, i am taking a slight part of his speech. if they could come to monticello in the 1960s and we looked back and we were getting it so wrong. much as our founders were getting it wrong then what are we doing today that is also in 50 years going to be

so, when jefferson comes home to monticello, his beloved monticello, john meacham loves to say the roads open, but it's always always jefferson decrying that he can't be in monticello for four years in public service, but he finally comes home in 1889 and never leaves. he almost immediately calls for his daughter and her family to come and live, for her to be the host of the plantation and run it and manage it and bring her family there. i think it's partly because he wants a woman to be in that role, and he can't obviously have his concubine doing that, but i think it's also because he wants to protect her and have her and her children at monticello. >> she does make a couple appearances while jefferson is present. this is martha jefferson randolph. and she is officially his hostess but she's not there a lot. meanwhile dolly madison is on the other side of town creating a whole political center of networks and connections at the white house, and jefferson lets her do it. but there are these moments where she does show up, and i'm thinking of the work of cynthia ke rrk kerner and it's wh

two years later, madison and monroe go to monticello. what was the purpose of that and how close were they at that time? john that was one of the more : touching things i ran into in the course of my research. monroe and madison are like satellites around jefferson. consciously or unconsciously they are competing with one , another for jefferson's favor. at times, they had a tempestuous relationship, did not speak to another for a time period. but now, jefferson has gone and they are both elderly and they go to monticello. i think they were in charlottesville for something at the university of virginia. brian: monroe lived right there. john: no, he was at oak hill, which is just outside of washington at that point. he had sold what was called highlands and was close enough to want to fellow -- monticello that you could see it off in the lanter. they go out to monticello and it is already beginning to fall disrepair, the grass is overgrown. they walk around and talk about jefferson and laugh together, telling stories. they are like two ol

they go out to monticello and it is already beginning to fall into disrepair. the grass is overgrown. they walk around and talk about jefferson and laugh together, telling stories. they are like two old brothers who had been reunited. given the tempestuous relationships they sometimes had, i found it a touching moment. brian: how much longer did both of them live? mr. ferling: james monroe lived five years. madison lived for a decade or more. brian: what did thomas paine write that you really like, besides "common sense?" mr. ferling: there were times when jefferson would turn to madison, many times and ask madison to write something. james monroe would jump in and write something. monroe was not a good writer and did not leave anything behind that was particularly noteworthy. brian: did he write the monroe doctrine? mr. ferling: i do not know if he was the actual author or if it was written by john quincy adams or someone else. brian: john quincy adams was his secretary of state. mr. ferling: right. in the case of paine, it is hard to say because i like everyt

it can really help inform us at monticello and across the south and across the east coast. so, i think it's important to document these spaces for sure. >> there's rocks over here. >> yeah. >> so, this is -- this is the equipment that i use from trimbel and this collects gps coordinates of a building. so, i've already collected it for the building. and then i've created a digital survey form, like an architectural survey form, that has the information i'm interested in and i can fill out and it links to that gps coordinates. so when i map these points out, when you click on that point, all this information i've put in, comes up for that point. this project started as part of my master thesis project. i'm a licensed architect. i went back to school to get my degree -- my masters degree in historic preservation after having been out in the real world practicing for a while, i realized that i wanted to do the type of architecture i wanted to do was historic preservation. i went back to school to get my masters degree. when i was in school for my masters are thesis, i started d

. >> i work -- at monticello. i do archaeological fieldwork. >> why are you here today? >> my colleague and i from the archaeology department comes to the spaces that she is surveying., we really wanted to come to kind of experience the space, to feel what these cabins would have been like to walk through, to live in, to walk up and down the steps. we often, at monticello, excavate a lot of the spaces, once they are not on the landscape anymore. to be able to be at one that is still standing, to be at a cabin that is still standing, it is a different experience. we wanted to be here for that. >> so, when you reflect on what you have seen, what are your thoughts? >> that's a good question. it is really humbling to be in the spaces for these people that were slaves. they were here, living and working. they didn't get a break. they were not paid for the services. , they still eked out an existence. to try to navigate through those spaces today, in the 21st century, it is humbling. i think i get a better sense of what -- would have felt like. there is nothing in it today. bu

lots of nails, some of which seem to have come from thomas jefferson's monticello. there is good documentary of corroborating that. lots of ceramics and wine bottles which are the container of the day. before plastic bottles, glass, wine type bottles were used over and over again for all types of liquid storage and transport. lots of those. some ceramics, which is interesting. that will tell us what the monroes were eating off of, the dishes they used. it is always an exciting moment to see the consumer choices they made. the house continues behind me here and probably goes under the 1870's house that belongs to the massey family. it continues probably 20 feet or so underneath the house. that was probably severely impacted by the construction in the 1870's. otherwise, the part of the house that is not covered by that is really well preserved. it is an archaeological treasure that i am really eager to get into. james monroe is an interesting character. he is maybe the most popular president of his time, and one that is least known today. we have a great challenge and

we saw o on monticello a buildig of this and the bedrooms became a dorm matory. what is the deaf iwhat is the dp housing? how do you unwind it? it is extraordinarily large. >> technically in this building district group housing would require a cu or is not permitted. i will have to talk to my staff. >> i believe it would be a cu. the group housing relating more to the use, not the physical form. i believe we have if it is over six people who are not living in the family condition where they share control over the property, tenancy and common spaces. >> if the project sponsor's children grow up and move out and it is he and his wife and the sister moves on and they have five or six you bedrooms they rent is it a group house you go situation? >> it would depend how it is used. we do have -- if it is like a roommate situation whereby they all share the property, then it would not be considered group housing. however, if each individual had a separate lease and none of them had any control over the use of the property, the lock on the doors, and, you know, nobody liv

he alerted the assembly men and then rode up the hill to monticello.so, jefferson barely escaped going down the other side. all three served in the revolution in face danger. but, at the end of the war all three were at loose ends. jefferson had perhaps the toughest governorship of any wartime governor during the revolutionary war. he's faced with difficult decisions with british invasions, he made some mistakes are made some choices that turned out not to be perhaps the best choice. he made enemies and as he left office some old friends like patrick henry who had been a friend of jefferson's for years turned on jefferson and demanded an investigation of jefferson's governorship. so, jefferson at that point says, i am through with politics, with public office, i will never serve again. he may have meant that. he may have planned to spend the rest of his life on the home with his wife and family and could have been involved in public life again. but his wife died and that changes everything. and he does come back into public life. when the war ended, he

. >> i think it ranks right up with mount vernon or monticello. it speaks to a man of significant wealth. jackson is considered to be one of our wealthiest residents. it's an 8000 square-foot house. if you were coming here, you would have an impressed e house of this magnitude. andrew jackson and rachel bought this property in 1804. originally it was about 425 acres in size. over the next 41 years of jackson life, he added land to the property he bought and sold. property around the edges. by the time he died in 1845, the plantation was about 1050 acres. jackson understood clearly that part of your power derives from the stage you are on and they were building a grand stage for him. the front is very grand. the style is called greek revival which was the height of the style in the 1830s. we think of jackson as representing the growing democracy of the country. the greek revival style appeals to americans because of the greek democracies. as you approach the mansion on the driveway, it shaped like a guitar. the part of the mansion you see a two-sto

. >> i think it ranks with washington's mount vernon or jefferson's monticello in terms of impressiveness. it speaks of a man of significant wealth. he is considered to be one of the wealthiest presidents. if you are coming here you would have been very impressed by a house of this magnitude. andrew jackson and rachel purchased this property in 1804. originally it was about 425 acres, and with mild buildings on the property. over the next 41 years of jackson's life he added land to the property. he bought and sold property around the edges. by the time he died in 1845 the plantation was about 1050 acres. jackson understood clearly that part of the power derived from the state you were on. they were building a grand stage set for him and the family. the front of the house is very grand. the style is called greek revival which was the height of style in the united states in the 1830s. we think of jackson as representing the growing democracy of the country and the greek revival style appeal to americans because of the greek democracies. as you approach the mansion coming up the driveway tha

stay in the virginia countryside with a visit to james monroe's high .and close to jefferson's monticello, the fifth president lived here from 1793 until his death. >> i call it a presidential cold case. there were always questions about this house. architects look at the little house and say that does not really look like a wing of a president's house. there are formal similarities to other dependency buildings from other plantations. the questions were lingering. when i got here, there were answers to questions i asked, but i did not quite fully understand. maybe it is just a willingness to say that i don't understand that. because maybe it is perfectly clear but i just don't understand. actually saying i don't understand that, let's look further. we are standing now in the center of the spot where james monroe's original main house stood. this is where we discovered the well preserved foundations just below ground surface. we have covered it back up while we are not excavating. that is how we preserve an archaeological site. we laid these pavers down on the ground service to get a sens

paymentat the same time i remember the project in monticello, i want to make sure we are doing what we can to prevent those issues. i am looking at the floor plans, and i see a family living here with seven adults and three kids. i think that when you have older parents, which live with me, there are certain requirements of privacy between like the couple and the family and the older folks that require separate bathrooms, and so i am not seeing what you see in that respect. i do have concerns over the design of the adu and i would like that to be better quality adu. i would like to make sure that we are adding to the housing stock in a way that is meaningful, but as far as the six bedrooms with, you know, the bathrooms add attached to the bedrooms, i am actually okay with that. i think if i had a family with my parents and my partners' par rents living with us, that is what we would need. there are some things i would do to this design. the quality of the adu, the light and access to that, and then also i think the deck on the third floor is a little bit excessive. i don't know that yo

host: let's go to david, who was calling in from monticello, georgia on independent line.ill health care be a top issue for you? caller: actually, no, but i want -- respondfrom ohio to the woman from ohio. paysaid and medicare only two cents on the dollar -- doctors can't afford it. representatives that will stand up to china -- china is trying to take over this country. it is talked about a little bit, but not enough. they will try to take us over monetarily. they will cheat the system and up everything they can and overtake us. host: thank you. coming up next, president trump continues to tout his record on job creation. after the break, we will hear from two top economists about how many jobs are out there. later on, we will talk to david from reuters about efforts to lower fuel efficiency standards for cars. this week, newsmakers talked about nasa administrator trump's priority for space. here, he is asked about the creation of a spaceport's and what that would mean for nasa. [video clip] >> i thought i would start with the space force. what would the creation of a spa

lots of nails which i figure have come from thomas jefferson's area at monticello, and there is good evidence corroborating that. lots and lots of ceramics, lots of wine bottles which, of course, is the container of the day. before plastic bottles, glass wine-type bottles were used over and over again for all kinds of liquid storage and transport. so lots of those. some ceramics, which is interesting, that will tell us what the monroes were eating off of, the dishes that they used. that's always a really exciting moment to be able to understand the consumer choices that they made. so the house continues behind me here and probably goes under the 1870s house that belongs to the massey family. so it continues probably 20 feet or so underneath that house. and that was probably severely impacted by that construction in the 1870s. but otherwise, the part of the house that's not covered by that is really well preserved. and so it's an archeological treasure that i'm really eager to get into. james monroe is a really interesting character. he is maybe the most popular president of his time

plus, telling monticello's history beyond thomas jefferson. new exhibitions reveal the lymplex legacy of sally hemings and slavery in emerica. >> we as americans don't address

plus, telling monticello's history beyond thomas jefferson. new exhibitions reveal the complex legacy of sally hemings anslavery in early america >> we as americans don't address some of the more complex issues of slavery, of sex, of power, of ownehi

to be able to document the experience to compare this building with monticello and get understanding of the slave experience across time and it helps inform archaeologists of sites like brandon plantation . across the south and east coast it is important to document the the spaces for sure.>> this is the equipment that i use and this collects gps coordinates of a building. i created a digital survey form that has the information i am interested in and i can fill it out and it links to that gps coordinate. when i map this out, all of the information that i put in comes out at that point.>> >> it started as part of my masters thesis project when i was a licensed architect and i went back to school to get my degree for the preservation after having practiced for a while. this is the type of architecture with preservation. i went back to school and when i was in school for my thesis i started doing research with the surveyed collection which is a program that started in 1936 to get architects back to work. architects were hired to document historic structures and part of the documentatio

stay in the virginia countryside with a visit to james monroe's high .and close to jefferson's monticelloifth president lived here from 1793 until his death. >> i call it a presidential cold case. there were always questions about this house. architects look at the little house and say that does not really look like a wing of a president's house. there are formal similarities to other dependency buildings from other plantations. the questions were lingering. when i got here, there were answers to questions i

his life in a grand scale and extravagantly wandered his fortune to protect his classical home in monticelloto givenness sweaty give-and-take of politics. he was not especially fond of most people. although marshall belong to the party the pat practiced republicanism in everyday life. but jefferson lived his life in poetry marshall lived his prose. the struggle for human dignity was experienced and the humanity and respect he showed to the least among us. so that gives you a flavor of what marshall faced when he joined the court and that distance he could elevate the court to the status it enjoys today as a code a cold equal branch of government. marshall transformed the core and breathe life into the constitution as he declared in the famous case we must never forget as a constitution of our founding in that who said he believed the constitution that he called that would move our country forward and bring the book for lawyers marshall is a man man of the people in the lover of the theater a frail wife who spent most upstairs bedroom with extreme depression and anxiety. the but that complete

dealt with shell-shock. >>> restoration at thomas jefferson's monticello is uncovering the story of sallyngs and other slaves who lived, worked and died at the third president's plantation. up next from american history tv's american artifacts, a behind-the-scenes look at the restoration work and we hear the stories that have been revealed. this is an hour and 45 minutes. >> so if you had visited on

president cohen on july 3 to review and clarify both building and planning actions tied to 278 monticello. president cohen announced at that june 28 planning commission her concerns about the city review agency's review of permits that the address and d.b.i. building and planning staff were able to show the supervisor the multiple permit reviews that had occurred since the project came to d.b.i. in november of 2012. following this productive discussion, supervisor cohen expressed her satisfaction and agreed that all stipulated city agency policies and procedures had been correctly implemented at this address. i would also submit remaining details of this record to -- to our secretary after our meeting here. thank you. speaking on seismic safety efforts, thanks to chief building inspector patrick o rear don, chief plumbing inspector and the new chief of electrical inspector, kenneth burke, for the department's most recent six-months reinspection of the life safety system at 301 mission. where they have found the building to be in conformance with the life safety standards set forth by buil

we saw o on monticello a buildig of this and the bedrooms became a dorm matory. what is the deaf iwhat is the dp housing? how do you unwind it? it is extraordinarily large. >> technically in this building district group housing would require a cu or is not permitted. i will have to talk to my staff. >> i believe it would be a cu. the group housing relating more to the use, not the physical form. i believe we have if it is over six people

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over president daniel ortega says that everything is back to normal in the car where now these monticello smoother than before are a strong indication that that's not the case the people that we've talked to in the country say that they feel fear but also show i'm paying it off for a long period of peace and security and they could i work with situations change. freddo in the march and asked him if he'd finally been able to see his brother not mingle. no nothing no information we were at the door from seven am and still nothing. for him and many others here the wait continues don't hold with. officers have a new plan to take down next. targeting the finances as the cartels generate about twenty nine billion dollars a year in revenue blamed for about one hundred fifty thousand murder two thousand and six john hendren reports from chicago. these are the faces of a new front in an international drug war from a new office in chicago a broad array of mexican and u.s. agencies say they will target drug cartel chiefs in their financial structure. we know how they move their money and we're going

i once worked in newsrooms like the capital gazette where anyone coming in the door, in monticello, kentucky, i was running the second paper in a one paper town. my desk was right next to the front door. in the next town, albany, i wanted to meet as many people as i could. and community journalism you have got to be part of the community or you won't succeed. community journalism is relationship journalism. you have a closer and more continuing relationship with your subjects, sources and audience so it is good to be accessible. in russellville, kentucky where i worked for al smith he liked to tell about how farmer walked into his office to complain about his editorials about consolidation which would raise property taxes. as the farmer talked to him he turned to his typewriter and took down with amanda saying. he handed it to him and said you just wrote a letter to the editor. read it, sign it, we will put it in the paper. my friend jack at chapel hill who is writing for community papers confirmed what he suspected him of the smaller the newspaper, the more accessible its staff was to the p

. >> i think it ranks right up with mount vernon or monticello. it speaks to a man of significant wealth. jackson is considered to be one of our wealthiest residents. it's an 8000 square-foot house. if you were coming here, you would have

in monticello, kentucky, in a one paper town, my desk was right next to the front door. i was from albany and i wanted to meet as many people as i could. in community journalism you've got to be part of the community or you won't succeed. community journalism is relationship journalism. you have a closer and more continuing relationship with your subjects, sources, and audience. it's good to be accessible. in russellville, kentucky where i worked for the great weekly publisher al smith he told the story about how a farmer walked into his office to complain about editorials for school consolidation which would raise property taxes. as the farmer talked to him, al turned to his typewriter and pecked out what the man was saying. he whipped the paper out, handed it to him and said, you just wrote a letter to the editor. read it, sign it, we'll put it in the paper. my friend at unc chapel hill who has also run community papers did a study that confirmed what he suspected. that the smaller the newspaper the more accessible its staff was to the public. the good thing about bein

and monticello, kentucky, my desk was right next to the front door. journalism, you have to be part of the community or you won't succeed. community journalism's relationship journals of. you have a closer and continuing relationship with your subjects, sources and your audience. so it is good to be accessible. in russellville kentucky, publisher al smith told the story about a farmer who walked into his office and complained about editorials for school consolidation that would raise property taxes. al turned to his typewriter and packed out what the man was saying. he gave it to him and said, you just wrote a letter to the editor. read it, sign it and i'll put it in the paper. unciend who taught at chapel hill this study confirming what he thought, that the smaller the newspaper, the more accessible the step was to the public. the good thing about being accessible is that it makes you more accountable, and when you are more accountable it makes you more accurate. 's of community journalism. you have to be engaged with your audience, for journalistic

vernon or monticello which has literally been transformed. it is being transformed as we speak. i've not seen the sally hemmings quarters. i read about it and eager to see it. it's remarkable that these institutions that aren't grounded in veneration can find it within themselves to renew themselves and to be contemporary in the best sense of the word. i really tip my hat to organizations like the mount vernon ladies association and the thomas jefferson foundation. i mean they are models, i think, in a lot of ways. >> montpelier has done it too with the slaves quarters. the constitution is more inclusive. and that idea of telling the story in ways that gives voices to all of underrepresented groups and includes sthem a great privilege. >> i have two more disruptors and 22 minutes. jeffrey, you're my lead on this one. we touched on it a bit. it is digital technology. i shows you fchose you for thisu teach and i was just overnight reading a study based on scientific research that the digital generation are having brain changes because of digital technology. they learn differently.

think of the african-american experience at a place like mount vernon -- mount vernon or monticello,which would have been transformed, and is being transformed, as we speak. i have not seen sally hemmings's quarters, but i have read about it and i'm eager to see it. it is remarkable that these institutions that are grounded in veneration, can find it within themselves to renew themselves, and to be contemporary in the best sense of the word. i tip my hat to organizations like the mount vernon ladies association, the thomas jefferson foundation. they are models i think, in a lot of ways, not hillyer has done it, too, with those had quarters. justice -- the constitution becoming more inclusive. that idea of telling the story in ways that gives voices to all of the underrepresented groups, and includes them in the american history, is a great privilege. >> let's move quickly here. jeffrey -- jeffrey engel, you are my lead here. we have touched on it a bit in digital technology. just to pick up on the targeting by the generation. because --. i was overnight reading, studying, based on sc

from paris from his residence known as ash hill and when the foliage is off the trees you can see monticello from that residence. monroe met paine and read what he was writing over the years but met him for the first time in 1794 when he went to paris as united states minister to france. he was in prison at the time when monroe sprang him after a ten month residence and brought pain to live with him under munro's roof for eight months. but at one point for six months into his residence they had the occasion to do some sightseeing and only two or three days out of paris they received word that paine was near death developing an abscess on his side and given the lack of antibiotics that it could have been fatal they dropped everything in monroe retained a surgeon it turns out it took four years he obviously survived but they were to gather but not all three of them at one time. but not too long ago to hear a a story on public broadcasting about predictability studies. i didn't know there was such a thing but according to the study people don't have a particularly great track record to predict