. >> brad edwards district 11. fellow citizen earlier mentioned the martin case, martin v city of boys' case. i am curious with hsoc whether it came down yesterday whether this is considered, if there's obstacles. and whether it's compliant. i know generally we don't make a habit of arresting people for sleeping on the sidewalk but i would note chief scott specifically said people can't just sleep on the sidewalk. as of yesterday and the ninth circuit maybe it's not the case anymore but i am not here to crack on chief scott. i appreciate him for all he has taken. we talk of the d.o.j. recommendation, i know that those are going to, we have to approve those and there was one minor change. one fear i have is that this is being put through in and wore getting two more commissioners that will be voted on and it's another step towards bringing in the electronic recontrolled weapons. my concern. >> cynthia: they've been voted to be approved, however, we have not addressed the training and the use aspects. i know there's