[laughter] >> whether it be lewis c.k. or john huckenberry. [laughter] >> oh, my god. >> i think, you know, you are dealing with people who are bifurcated in the individuals, most people are in some ways, compelling, brilliant but they also are hideous in their private lives with so many people and their currency is their audience and the currency gives them impunity and by giving them platform continue their impunity and i think that we have to take some collective responsibility for that and also think about how the victims feel, think about, you know, subtle triggering that continues every time they see that person continue to have a platform, if people don't hold them accountable because the laws often won't. >> well, it's interesting that so many people think lewis c.k. is coming back too soon or that charlie rose is trying to get on the air too soon and because these cases were decided in the court of public opinion, there's no verdict, there's no sentence, we can't say they have to stay away for two years, basically they can come back w