the hard jobs come to cia. ithin the intelligence community, cia is the keeper of the human intelligence mission. technical forms of collection are vital, but a good human source is unique and can deliver decisive -- even intend. cia is also the lead agency for all sorts of intelligence analysis. the assessment drafted by our analysts based on classified and open source information. much of the president's daily brief consists of cia collection and analysis. very often, the president relies on us to act as america's first line of defense. we are first and, collecting intelligence, moving ahead of the military, going where others can't go doing things no one else can. these are the sorts about committees that fall under the heading of covert action. our work requires secrecy and secrecy in turn requires a profound degree of trust from the american people. nothing is more important to those of us at cia and our obligation to earn the trust our fellow citizens. that is why our agency abides by and embraces an overs

a slap on the wrist. so, cia has control of this program. they scour the air force to find fighter pilots that can do these missions. dad is selected. he starts to fly in 1956. to the left of the stage, you're right, we have to easels. on one is the photograph my father took from his first mission over the soviet union. this particular photo is the presidential palace. this was one of the targets of this mission on november 6, 1956. the other images his flight map. it details the route he took on this first mission that penetrated soviet airspace. my father is recruited by the cia in 1955. he is trained at area 51 in the nevada desert. he starts to serve in turkey. there, for the next 4 1/2 years he is flying these flights over the former soviet union and other countries, such as india, pakistan, middle eastern countries. eastern european countries. the soviet union, as well as china and tibet. so it is not just the soviet union that he is flying over, but other countries as needed. there are some 24 pilots in the first batch of pilots recrui

you had the counterterrorism center at cia. how did some of these interservice rivalries play out and start to cause problems for the mission moving forward? >> it was a problem for me immediately, because i was caught between those two divisions. i was on rotational assignment to the counterterrorism center when i was overseas as chief of station. so, when i returned and 9/11 happened, i got in my car and went to headquarters. cia headquarters, to say, hey, i am here. i want to help. who is going to be running the show here, in terms of response. and they did not know. it was some period of time, days anyway, where this was being debated. the counterterrorism center has the mission of countering terrorism, or there is the northeast division that owns the territory where we would be operating. those decisions were made at a very high level. i wasn't sitting in the meetings when those were made. initially, no one knew who was going to take the lead on the cia response to 9/11. it took a while to play out. ultimately the decision

interview where he blew the whistle was he repeated what he had heard in that cia hallway which turnedout you know by zero nine that it was complete b.s. while more. only got about a minute left but what what do you what do you think what's the stuff people should take to better combat this kind of. i guess deception manipulation and also malfeasance that you guys a book cover to go about thirty seconds. yeah well they should go to our twitter account and they should tweet to the major media to have a stop like you said before people can know about the things in this book watchdogs book watch them that's a great point i do strongly suggest people got to read this book they need to know this information thank you so much for coming out and talking with us today thank you yeah thanks for having us really appreciate it thank you. so who out there is interested in exploring the solar system well my friends according to the good folks at nasa they're going to need to wait a little longer more than. me a little bit longer you're going to need a little more of them our rocket jet fuel and lot

agents outsmarted the cia but in one nine hundred fifty nine step on bond the leader of the ukrainian nationalists was killed in munich where he was hiding under the name of stefan pople it would be fair to say that bond became a major symbol of ukrainian nationalism by sheer chance for he was neither its only leader nor its most powerful one dimitrov don't solve was the father of the far right to tell a tarion doctrine in ukraine andriy melnyk was the leader of another faction of the un romance you have it was a general of the ukrainian insurgent army and others contributed greatly to the movement dangerous ideology suppressed by the communist authorities but supported by external forces never really died the seeds of ukrainian nationalism or passed from generation to generation unfortunately it was just a matter of time before they would once again blossom. in one nine hundred fifty four ukraine's territory was expanded even more when nikita khrushchev the leader of the u.s.s.r. and ukrainian himself generously gave the crimean region to ukraine. historians would argue about the leg

barely a year off of the cold war ended a letter arrived at cia headquarters. instigator the up and coming senator al gore wanted the cia to allow its intelligence data and systems to be used for environmental study. and use very specific. he wanted us to look at vegetative into see that g. a physical parameters oceanographic parameters we were not really that was not really our our focus. dissolved a senior officer in the cia's science and technology directorate was chosen to study it. i was interested in the earth sciences and i had been working many years the cia and other issues and this was something that. kind of spoke to my heart though still in opposition to the republicans goals decision to involve his national security advisor elevated the issue to the highest levels of u.s. intelligence and the idea was i think there's a lot of information that's available which could answer research questions in the scientific world if it could be made available it was my job to help figure out how this could be brought to pass. senator gore early on had been on comm

help the scientific community i few months later do most of the cia. thank you all very much twenty six weeks ago today the president announced his intention to nominate me for director of central intelligence. and the end of all the entire soviet empire has collapsed. when robert gates became unequal powerful director of central intelligence enough m. but much ninety one the stage was sent for google's remarkable request to become a reality one of my primary responsibilities was going to be how to. move this gigantic american intelligence apparatus from a singular focus on the soviet union in the cold war to a range of new challenges so i had a pretty good idea of the kind of resources we had. the way they had been applied against the soviet target and that we had this huge archive. of material and just the notion that uniquely in the world we have been taking photographs of the same places in the arctic for decades. guys that the reaction of the broader community to us during this was shock and awe . we might not get out of it what we're putting into

instead reagan launched a covert operation in nicaragua run by the cia. argely secret from the eyes and ears of congress. by early 1982, the cia had set up training camps at military bases around the u.s. >> you are about to begin an intense training program as your country strives to obtain peace. >> we wanted to appear that this was the nicaraguan people that were uprising against the sandinista government. >> these right-wing counter revolutionaries became known as the contras. >> this was the biggest cia paramilitary program in the history of the cia at that point. >> reagan's covert war became national news. >> two american congressmen no doubt america is involved in a war with the government there. >> the contra's tactics were alarming. >> it became quite brutal. in many ways a war against civilian. >> if there were people they thought were involved with the sandinista government she would shoot them. they were essentially terrorists . >> but before the contra's culture of death and intimidation reached the public, many in congress were finding their

we know the cia. d media leak strategy all related to destroying donald trump before the election, after the elections. and not only that, with all due respect, i guess have you got to do business with the guy. i don't. but when we look at the messages from steel bruce ohr his wife worked for fusion gps. christopher steel put all the russian lies together paid for by hillary. talking about praying he doesn't get beings posed. also talking about fire walls holdings. strzok and page talk about insurance policy. but then steel tells ohr asking ohr did you get the information we now know are fabricated lies from russia did you get them into the. >> tell you if there is the same relentless pursuit of these people as they have done to president trump, you're going to find very quickly already admitted evidence of serious crimes and a major conspiracy to first stop him from being president where there would be an impeachment. my head hangs in shame gave 16 years of my life to the department of justice as a th

i am almost tempted to tighten the book how the cia made me sleep with people you herman. us connections to the republican movement in northern ireland during this period but that's completely irrelevant when it comes to your defense of wrongly convicted republicans what interested you so much and i don't know i when you were considered it wasn't a good career move a lawyer for terrorists judges would one top judge on his way to the house of lords took a liking to me and he called me into his room and said. you must be careful of the cases you take you'll end up doing bomb cases and this was the attitude of britain's senior judges that that only. larry can lawyers took bomb cases and yet these were the cases that destroyed the image of british justice when so many were found to be wrongful convictions so it was strange to me coming idealistically from a sprayer believing that one of the finest goals for a lawyer was to defend who were demonized and possibly wrongfully charged as the many irish people were to find that this was the wrong attitude you don't find it now it say

you have strzok referring to the cia pulling out all the stops saying the cia is scorned and that theyre political and they are leaking like mad. less than a month later the dossier becomes public. is this the kind of politically motivated leaking from our most trusted government officials? is that acceptable, john brennan? i hate to say that chuck schumer is right, but if you go against the intelligence community, they will get you six ways to sunday. why? because the deep state with the power that they have intelligencewise, it's like a house of cards. we are watching the whole scheme come come tumbling down. revealing the level of corruption in your government that should make you sick and concerned, and as it turns out, high-ranking deep state officials, they weren't the only people rocked by the election of donald trump. look at breitbart.com. they obtained official video from inside a 2016 company-wide meeting at the tech giant google. at this was following trump's win. if you thought the good people of google weren't biased and against all things trump, this should make you thin

intelligence and ukrainian nationalists since one thousand nine hundred forty six from the cia agency report it is clear that they were not mistaken about the nature of ukrainian nationalists organizations or their leaders step on bond dare i himself according to an o.s.'s report of september one thousand nine hundred forty five bunn dare i had earned a fierce reputation for conducting a reign of terror during world war two after the second world war under another ukrainian nazi leaders fled to europe where the cia helped them hide. the cia later inform the immigration and naturalization service that it had concealed steffen bond darragh and other ukrainians from the soviets. they advocated for independence of ukraine from the u.s.s.r. and became an incubator for leaders of ukraine. in one thousand nine hundred one one of them japanee book founded svoboda an openly radical nationalist party preaching the good old principles of bondage era do you. see the climate of the booklet. if you. just to. please. her jew crane from the jews in russia ukraine for ukrainians and so on his statemen

it sounds like the cia, fbi, doj, and the director of national intelligence under obama.ccording to what we just saw, many actively working against president and against the candidate. we are just supposed to believe them that there's no political bias and their bias doesn'te impact any ofup google's products? they literally held a funeral for our country at a company-wide meeting the day after donald trump won. we will have more on that developing story throughout the hour, butaf first, the countdon continues. it's all inde your hands. it's where you, we the people, have all the power. in 55 days, the trump agenda will move full steam ahead or it will stop dead in its tracks. you get to decide. some of these races will literally be decided by just a handful of votes.e. let's take a look. >> i will just list you a a buh of races that are dead even. arizona, nevada, tennessee, montana, north dakota, missouri, indiana, west virginia, and florida. all of them too close to call and every one of them like a knife fight in an alley. just overall in every one of those places. >>

the secretary of defense, secretary of state, condoleezza rice, the head of the cia. and bob mueller was called there to report on what the fbi did. at least that is what he thought. he showed up with a report and was exceedingly proud of what the fbi had done, because what the fbi did in just 3 1/2 days is what they do very well, investigate. he came with a report to camp david that saturday morning, after only 3 1/2 days, and in this really is remarkable. those of you involved in things like this would realize it. the fbi had identified all 19 hijackers, their pedigree, their travel pattern, their financing, their associates, where they got in this country, where they rented cars, who gave them what, where they had been staying. in 3 1/2 days. and he presented that with a great deal of pride. mueller is a very proud man. at the end of this presentation, expecting, like i got here, a little bit of praise and thanks, president bush just looked at him and said, i don't care about that, i want to know how you are going to prevent the next one. you can imagine how humilia

last hour we heard from two former directors of the cia. he pentagon, state department and homeland security. >> we're going to be hearing from the former heads of each, and let's start with leon panetta, who served as defense secretary to president obama. our discussion came on the heels of president trump's contentious nato summit in brussels. >> mr. secretary, last week, of course, the president said he wanted out of syria and those were his exact words. i wa i want out, when talking about our largely successful and sustainable attack plan, battle plan against isis in the region. was that a mistake for the president to telegraph that and could it have led to the attacks we saw earlier this week? >> well, i think it was not something that the president should have said with regards to the status of american forces, because if we're going to be able to have some kind of influence in syria -- and it is a chaotic situation -- it is important for the united states to have a presence there and to indicate that we have a role to play. by saying

the cia began to turn away soviet defectors. so, you know, folks have been underestimating the soviet side -- the russian threat for decades. even "the new york times" when i wrote about this in the '90s say the cia acted naively after the soviet union by underestimating this. today, everyone has gotten the reasonable because, you know, they think that the left now wants to use this to attack a legitimately elected president. in the age of trump, you know, the point of reference is no longer "the new york times," it's now facebook. so how is facebook dealing with this? well, it's trying its hardest, i mean, facebook gets many things wrong, but it's doing, i think, trying to do a fairly good job so it doesn't get criticized by congress. the bad actors are getting much better at hiding their connections with russia, which makes the job of facebook and google and everyone else and twitter much harder. facebook, itself, said last month when it announced it had blocked pages, that, quote, it's clear that whoever sets up these accounts

seth: well, there were some indications that the cia wassi providing ance to solidarity, but what was not e own is the individuals involved, some of y smugglers involved, the amount of money, where this was set up, and now declassified documents on debates within the reagan white house on whether to do it, and when they made the decision, what the objectis were. jane: how important was this? this was obviously at a time when the soviet union was in a state of flux. what did it do? seth: people have to remember at in 1981 in december, the soviets got the poles to crack down on solidarity. they considered invading themselves like in meechoslovakia, but instead of doing it, the reracked down. in 1982, 1983, 1984, the primary assistance solidarity was getting was covert assistance from the cia. they were getting it from labor unions and the catholic church, but the cia was the largest funder, we now know, of solidarity. it helped them survive the darkest hours of the soviet-backed regime. jane: could they havsucceeded without this support? seth: it's possible, over time, but i think what

its back and people all over the world were eager to work for the united states, work secretly for the cia, work openly in other ways, because it was good for them. they would get business, they would make friends. that was the way the world was going. i think we're now heading into the wind rather than having it at our back, and maybe it is easier for journalists to approach people. i'm just going to say briefly in response to the earlier theme of the way in which being an intelligence officer is like being a journalist, that's just obviously true on one level. we're trying to pull people's stories from them, we're trying to establish rapport, we're trying to get people to say things that they might not otherwise say. but there's one huge difference that you just have to underline right now, which is that journalists, if they're doing their job, don't lie. we're about telling the truth, and we work for our readers. [ applause ] and you know, it's obvious that we're in a moment where that role, that understanding, that that's what we do and that we're not in the business of lying, is being

involved but has subsequently admitted it was involved in that coup and you can go down the line the cia supported a coup in brazil in one nine hundred sixty four the us supported the coup very violent and tragic two against salvador allende in one nine hundred seventy three you can go down the line this is been standing operating procedure of the united states certainly since world war two and even before that in the case of venezuela . recently is many people know the president nicolas maduro barely escaped in assassination attempt by bonds that were. thrown against him by drones in the. reaction of the media worldwide you can check this out was to say he was a victim of an alleged assassination plot they wouldn't even given the credit for being the victim of a sasa nation attempt even though you can watch the videos where it's very clear what happened and it's very clear that those that attempt to which was done by rogue military officers was certainly encouraged by these meetings with president trump. and again the u.s. will deny this but it's very clear the u.s. has been encouraging

one of the better thinks the cia does. so what there was the centralized leadership and the ability to organize counter propaganda operation across the government. that seems ok for quite a while, but on 9/11, americans woke up to the shocking realization that people all over the world were celebrating these attacks on america and they began to wonder why. those of you who were old enough will remember there was a lot of discussion, why do they hate us? that was a question. and the answer that the government came to was that there were a lot of people all around the world who were preaching stories about america that were quite hateful. these needed to be countered in some way. but without the use information agency, how would you do that? the problem is that there are a lot of messaging authorities within the u.s. government, the state department does direct government to government diplomacy and also as public diplomacy functions, which is to say diplomat talking directly to people. the military has a whole lot of differe

but then there came to light a fantastic way of the cia penetration so when the reagan administration came in there was this concept that instead of having the cia which traditionally would go into these different target countries funding their media funding n.g.o.s funding different political operations that was essentially farmed out to a new organization called the national endowment for democracy which was created in one thousand nine hundred three and it would do pretty much with the agency used to do it would go into one of these countries and it would support various political groups train activists deal with journalists business groups and try to advance u.s. foreign policy interests sometimes against the interests of the host government the target government and beyond that they received financial and other logistical help from the national and on. for democracy and other u.s. agencies that help them training activists working with journalists to get in their side presented more favorably they work on things like how do you get traction how do you get things to go viral how d

they may be failures of the cia and we should regard intelligence skeptically. the intelligence has not been recognized or probably analyzed. that is really what i think and i mean, the cia has much greater in the nsa has greater resources than any other intelligence agency in the sense they gather too much and it's a vast of material and it's not clear that the shape is. >> adam, that reminds me of a story when i'm doing my biography of mcgeorge and william bundy, to bundy brothers, william bundy had worked in the cia for a long time in the 1960s and working under a man named william lang langer, who was a harvard professor who been recruited to become head of the office of national intelligence in 1952. when he was recruited he told [inaudible] i can't possibly do the job if you give me more than 25 analysts. [laughter] he wanted it small and lean and recruited william bundy as one of those 25. but today we have -- david, how many? >> oh my gosh. to count all the agencies there's many tens of thousands. it's crazy. were not getting our money's worth. [laughter

operative who was very unhappy with the culture at the cia. he would request or send in requests to approach certain potential assets and he'd have his request sent back to him five times because the commas were in the wrong places. they would string them along and say no and he was constantly paint his sources out of the pocket and take the agencync forever to get the money so more often than not you got agents that are dealing with a big bureaucracy, as well intended, great by the women at the cia and that's one point i always make clear this amazing american there that are doing some of this nation's most dangerous business and people that think there are no problems there and talk to people who think it's so pure craddick and so much red tape and that is part of what i deal with in my thrillers which makes them all the more real. >> host: we read political philosophy of yours in your thrillers? >> guest: you know, ever since i write political thrillers and ever since human beings have gone together there's been politics and ever since we go

in 1982, 1983, 1984, the primary assistance solidarity wasve getting was t assistance itom the cia. they were gettinrom labor unions and the catholic church,i but thwas the largest funder, we now know, of solidarity. it helped them survive the darkest hours of the soviet-backed regime. jane: could they have succeeded without this support? seth: it's possible, over time, but i think what the aid did is it provided a way to survive. i think it is certainly a debatable question whether they would have uusimately been d in 1982 and 1983. the money that they got helped them run it undergro it is not weapons, like what we saw in afghanistan, the ciid pr. it was entirely running an information campaign much like the soviets had done against the u.s., the british, and others elsewhere around the world. it was an information campaign in the soviet union's own backyard. jane: talking of own backyard, what would you say is her legacy of this? now we have the russians accused of meddling in american diplomacy. seth: i actually think there are a lot of similarities. the soviets called at the time

paul wager that's all coming up on the show but first tomorrow marks not only forty five years since the cia backed coup the board of fascist government to power in chile but seventeen years since the usas nine eleven it's hard to recall how much support the united states had around the world as it mourned its dead from moscow to havana to run to caracas to the streets of major nation cities people and their leaders gave their condolences to the american people but then came the post nine eleven mistake that president trump referred to. in his campaign for the presidency it was a mistake the war in iraq we spread two trillion dollars thousands of lives we don't even have it a rat is taking over iraq with the second largest oil reserves in the world obviously it was a mistake so george bush made a mistake we can make mistakes but that one was a beauty we should have never been in iraq we have decent people lived the middle east it's something both moscow and beijing of long said but has nine eleven been forgotten by u.s. politicians president assad of syria tried to explain to c.b.s. as charl

world war two after the second world war under another ukrainian nazi leaders fled to europe where the cia helped them hide. the cia later inform the immigration and naturalization service that it had concealed steffen bond darragh and other ukrainians from the soviets the operations involving ukraine they advocated for independence of ukraine from the u.s.s.r. and became an incubator for leaders of ukraine in the nazis. in one thousand nine hundred one one of them new book founded svoboda an openly radical nationalist party preaching the good old principles of bondage era. just to. purge ukraine from the jews in russia ukraine for ukrainians and so on his statements got him fifth place in the simon visa center top ten anti-semitic world leader rankings of two thousand and twelve. but also sadly attracted numerous follow. dimitri are founded another extreme right organization treason or trident in one nine hundred ninety four. in april two thousand and thirteen became an assistant to a member of parliament from the opposition party. later that same year he would become the leader of the mo

the cia supporting underground newspapers, radio programs and proactive information campaign. ut as a larger strategy to take down the soviet empire? >> well, i think obviously most of the credit has to go to solidarity and other opposition movements inside of eastern europe, but i think there is no question that reagan's decision to go on the offense in terms of an information campaign in eastern europe, in the soviet's fear of influence was absolutely essential to providing the assistance these groups needed to run an information campaign against the communist governments. i think this is where we are a little behind the ball on today which is where we are on the defensive primarily, not on the offensive. i think this is where -- this is a good example of where the u.s. went on the offensive. >> seth, pull the string a little more on that end of the story. electric with a lens is a, the pope, the president of the united states and the cia all involved in a concerted coordinated effort to undermine the existing polish government and it worked out well but pull the string a lit

they established institutional methods like the cia and nsa. it was a long fight. the cold war lasted for 40 years, but the american form of government proved itself well armed to wage it. i will pass this along to my colleague lee lacy. [applause] dr. lacy: first i wanted to and fore truman library the invite. greatbraries are a national treasure and they help us to understand the past government and leaders. we can learn lessons to progress as a nation. both the truman presidential library and here in missouri as well as the -- museum in eerie kansas. and how one espionage case intersected. few events have gathered as much controversy as the rosenberg era. libraries and the internet are full of research proclaiming seeking toence or expose rosenberg as agents of the fsr -- ussr. beginning, through the natural progression of events, president truman would have the final word on the rosenberg's court appeal fell short and executive clemency seeming to be the last help. it did not happen that way. as the rosenberg request for clemency wound its way through the truman

that's the palace the cia has. they do want to be bureaucratic to the want to go out and help the nation of protect the nation and gather the intel they have to but i think there are pieces that attach to that that make it difficult. that's what i love writing about a private intelligence agency where you got guys out there as americans we all hope there are scott harvath's out there or no rules he's unshackled and go needs to do what needs to be done. marcus littrell history was still in the lone survivor with mark walberg. first time i ever saw marcus speak that was a marcus ended his talk when his book was after he said one of the greatest things that you can do for us in the special operations community is to just kind of look away, does it mean with no accountability look at this way and let us go into what we're trying to do. trust us to do the right thing. there's an incredible story like the decided three of his teammates were killed because they made the decision they did to let those who carves and afghani

the idea that dr. goldforb had access because he was a cia agent is ludicrous on its face. and so we have not heard yet from the defendants to say yes they would defend that case vigorously and then prepared to fight that out. >> and for what i mentioned before subject to jurisdiction in the united states they sold their product in new york and millions of dollars that would be hard-pressed to perform. where channel one and in fact was in default but they were much less of a presence there than here. so i am not counting on a default. >> what we have is extremely dangerous. you achieve an amazing victory with the public inquiry so what in this case? >> to receive this propaganda style russia program. in 2006 and 2007 and what happens in the u.k. because and then to even prove. and with that propaganda and we could not believe how much it cost to fight with nothing. they had nothing. only the truth. >> and for what it was named. and then to pave the way for justice but then i can see how the propaganda machine but and with the ukraine public opinion and it was very difficult

. >> you know, when was in china he was eventually called back to run the cia. something he didn't want to do because he thought to be honest, running the cia was a political career killer. an aspiration for higher office. then he says that he remembered had his father saying if the president of the united states asks you to do something for your country, the answer is yes. that sentiment i think embodies his entire sense of obligation, not to necessarily be a president in his own right but to hold the presidency up as a charge to hand off to the next person. >> jeffrey ingle, director of southern methodist university center for presidential history discusses his book "when the world seemed new, president george h.w. bush and the end of the cold war" sunday night at 8 eastern on c-span's q & a. >> the head of the transportation security administration testified this week before the house oversight and government reform committee about allegations of misconduct among tsa employees. the hearing occurred after the committee released a report that found senior tsa o

he almost created the culture of the cia for failing the farm.e school of the cia to become a case officer. so, lou, damage has been done, and it's not going to be fixed overnight. lou: we can't be in the business of rationalizing failure two years into this administration. it is time now for somebody to take charge of the dad gum agencies and, by the way, talking about the dni, the head of the cia, this is all great sport. it's politics. it's nonsense. this is a president who pledged smart government, and we've got really dumb government working in our intelligence community right now, if this is the best they can proffer, and i'm sure you agree. >> lou, given the power that we have otherwise economically and politically, i have to agree, the intelligence community is not -- doesn't cut the mustard when it comes to how effective it should be. you won't hear me disagree with you on that, lou. lou: we're going to continue to recommend your book. dr. sebastian gorka, good to see you, thank you so much. >> thank you, lou up. >> next, president trump

well, here with us tonight, former director of the cia, john brennan. we're happy to say he's also an msnbc senior national security and intelligence analyst. thank you for coming in. your reaction to just the story about bashar al assad and is general mattis one of the people you regard as a human guardrail around this administration? >> absolutely. i think it just underscores how fortune we all are that somebody of jim mattis' experience, common sense, as well as his interest in making sure that this president, donald trump, does not do something that truly is dangerous for our national security. i think it also reveals just how inexperienced donald trump is and how impulsive he is. to say that he wants to kill somebody like that. as well as his utter disregard for the implications of doing something rash on the korean peninsula. again, it shows his impulsiveness, it shows his recklessness, and that's why i think people like jim mattis and john kelly and others are there to prevent donald trump from doing something that is truly going to hurt this coun

fbi in the cia did not want to release anything. the fbi wanted to make clear that he didn't have any to do with the torture that was going on at guantanamo. it was because of institutional competition that those emails came to light, it was because they came to light that we had a congressional, the first meaningful congressional debate about abuse at what time will. --i just want to add one a abuse at guantanamo. >> you have to look at the historical context and what happened with other people who had spoken to the press. when edward snowden was making his decision, it was the decision of the investigation drakehomas rate -- thomas , saying they went to homes of people who had used the proper channels. he sort of looked at that landscape in making his decision. of ianpoint out the case fishback, who after 17 months trying to get the -- guidance on what the military rule on prisoners was decided to write to senator john mccain. john mccain published his letter to weeks later and that introduced the mccain opposition of cruelty by go

we believe that to be the cia, jeff sessions, are you paying attention? d rosenstein, where are you? by the way, bob mueller, are you concerned that steele was funneling information into your office? information he did not stand by when he was involved in an interrogatory in a court of law in great britain. he said, i don't know if this is true, is this acceptable behavior from the highest ranking members of our government? gregg jarrett, sara carter will be here and weigh in on the latest. we also have an update on supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. the confirmation vote in the senate has been delayed until next week. and after weeks and weeks of partisan attacks, frankly since the announcement of judge kavanaugh, every dirty political tactic from every democrat in the senate, now at the last minute, the last second, the final hour, dianne feinstein throwing a hail mary pass. a last ditch effort to the confirmation and feinstein released earlier today this cryptic statement "i have received information from an individual concerning the nomination of b

and it worked because the fbi disagreed with the policies of the cia and the defense department. and when we filed the freedom of information act, we filed it with multiple agencies and the cia and the defense department stone walled us. they didn't want to release anything. and the fbi wanted to make clear it didn't have anything to do with the torture going on at guantanamo. it's because of institutional competition between the fbi and the cia and the dod those e-mails came to light and it was because those e-mails came to light that we had a congressional -- the first meaningful congressional debate about abuse at guantanamo. >> i want to add one more thing. i think you also have to look at the historical context and what else happened with other people who had spoken to the press. and so when edward snowden was making his decision, it was in the context of thomas drakes and where he tried to expose waste and wrong doing. they went into homes of people who had used the proper channels. so he sort of looked at that landscape, i think, in making his decision. >> the secondary bo