i mean, i have lived through roosevelt, kennedy, nixon, reagan, um, ronald everybody. and it all comes out in the wash. ,nd i do not know another thing with this past experience with brett kavanaugh, he said he sticks with presidents. i have worked with the court and they will go with precedence. they look at their law books and to see what has happened in another case like that and they stick to that. host: thank you. course judge kavanaugh talked about prece dent, which is actually the way the senators ask him about roe versus wade. he went on say directly whether or not he would vote to overrule roe versus wade, but that is what people want to know. so they have conversations about precedent, and he says he respect it, but the court does overrule precedent. and may have done it in". in".one it it does have the power to overrule it in cases that lower courts do not. saying that you respect it is not really tell us what you are edenceto do with pres you think is wrong. -- you talked about testifying, how did judge bork affect this? guest: he answered questions candidl

i mean, i've lived through roosevelt, kennedy nixon, johnson, reagan, everybody and it all p comes out in the -- and it all comes out in the wash, and i don't know another thing with this past experience with brett kavanaugh. he said that he is -- i worked for the court for ten years and they do go with precedent. they look in their law books and see what happened from another case that is like that and that's what they do stick to that. >> okay, mary lou thanks. >> juf talked -- judge kavanaugh talked a lot about precedent which is why the senators asked him about roev. wade. they have these conversations about precedent and he says he respects precedent and, of course, i'm sure that's true, but the supreme court can and does overrule long-standing -- they did it in the past term in two different cases and in close votes, as a matter of fact. so the supreme court is uniquely situated when it comes to precedent in that the powers overrule precedents in a way that lower courts don't. to say you respect precedent as a nominee doesn't really tell us what you're going to do with what prece

nixon and ford years. like the johnson and kennedy years, were truncated. but i think pat nixon and betty ford served in the white house at a time of enormous change and they were agents of a gentle turn toward the future. thank you very much. [applause] >> well done. thank you, carl. carl has agreed to take a couple of questions. we'll do that now. just raise your hand. i do want to mention now carl is the author of more than a dozen books. this was done in collaboration with the exhibit and the series. it's for sale in the museum store. and a thing carl will sign for you if you buy it. but this was done in four months. can you tell us a little bit about that experience? doing this book in four months? carl: i don't know if i should. [laughter] it was insane. everybody was doing their part. i would send images and photographs and say that we have to find one that is public domain. there were various staff members here who were diligent in tracking down that event and finding an image. and you know, it was a lot of back and forth. my now favorite moment of t

nixon went to the funeral. the train took bobby kennedy about 8 or 10 hours down to be buried next to his brother in arlington. the politics were poisoned by what was going on. >> on the morning after senator kennedy was killed, i got to the apartment around 9:30. by the time i got there, james rowley, the head of the secret service was upstairs with mr. nixon and the two agents that became our agents through the rest of the campaign. the coverage of the other candidates happened instantaneously. >> what you will see next is a picture of justice -- one week after bobby kennedy was assassinated, earl warren concluded that richard nixon had a real chance to replace him. because he was about to retire, nixon had a chance to be president. earl warren wanted to stop and prevent that. this was one of the great battles for the supreme court. earl warren resigned, but he made his resignation contingent on the senate acceptance of his replacement, who was justice abe portis, who was lbj's crony. and lyndon johnson nominated -- to take his associate

kennedy library. it's also go to back through the tape, the nixon tapes, the kennedy tapes. those are just a wealth of information that we can use when we're doing these documentaries. you hope they also come out in things like some of you might have seen the movie that was done in the early 2000s, 13 days about the cuban missile crisis. i teach teachers. a number of us do. an entire teacher institute on presidents and war. i taught one pr the second time on president kennedy in boston. as a sort of lighter fair at the end of the day while it's the cuban missile crisis that popular culture treatment and the way we use that is to say let's turn to the documentary information. let's turn to the oral hifts. let's turn to the reportings that president kennedy was making in realtime.hifts. let's turn to the reportings that president kennedy was making in realtime.ihifts. let's turn to the reportings that president kennedy was making in realtime.shifts. let's turn to the reportings that president kennedy was making in realtime.histhifts. let's turn to the reportings that president

bird johnson, the wife,ng vice president's and then the outgoing first lady, jackie kennedy, the incoming, and pat nixon, the outgoing vice president's wife. in the famous tapes that jackie kennedy later made and released in 2011, she commented on how attractive mrs. nexen appeared that day -- nixon appeared that day in the california style. pat nixon became first lady in an era where according to newspaper coverage that i certainly did a lot of research wildr our book there was a and radical variety of clothing. women in pans, women in in maxi skirtsen which reached the floor. solid colors, but also patterns of all kinds. refrainedgenerally from wearing some of the more period,look of the although she did where a wild pattern dress. that was actually for a halloween party at the far right. and, what was a popular beach wear at the time, lily pulitzer as she is seen in the center in florida with president nixon. pat nixon was described as wearing cheery, california colors, or the california look. one does find that in her wardrobe, there is a strong element of oranges, greens, and yellows. cheery colors

nixon's use of television. for a person who everyone thought was not good on television, and the myth of that spun out of the jack kennedy masteredixon television. pat talks about the telethon on election night. but we had these television programs called the man in the arena, where nixon would stand in the center and there were either citizens or press people all around and he had a standup mic and they could go at him and he could answer. this was incredibly effective in this campaign. >> roger ailes also did the telethon the night of the oregon primary. nixon was there. the coach of oklahoma was a big supporter of his and he would ask the questions and nixon would answer. thanay we used television -- then was to look at the man nixon and look at his strengths. he was not ronald reagan, up there with a charismatic speech. but what he was good at was knowledge, ability to articulate and speak briefly, get information in, his press conferences as president, every one of them show him rising. the man had knowledge, experience, ability, and excellent mind. things were built around his strengths. the whole medium was built

kennedy library. >> that is different. one of my favorite stories, and it may be true, but richard nixon attended the 1961 inaugural of john f. kennedy, of course beat him for the presidency in 1960. as he was walking out, he ran into one of kennedy's speech writers and nixon says, i wish i had said some of those things. and he said you mean, ask not what you can do for your country? and nixon said, no, the part where it says i do solemnly swear. but the point about the story is, every man that takes the office wants to put his stamp on the presidency. his unique stamp. and institutions that bear their name after they leave office also have their own, they are all unique institutions, and the families are unique in the stamp they want to make. i think it is best when we are not heavy-handed, when we let people tell the story as it was . and generally speaking, that reflects well on the principle. >> any comments on this? >> i am going to speak as a constituency as one, as an individual who grew up in louisville, kentucky. and was taken at age 5 to hodge and bill, to the birthplace of abraham lincoln. and i was thinking abo

i mean, i have lived through roosevelt, kennedy, nixon, reagan, um, ronald everybody.t all comes out in the wash. ,nd i do not know another thing with this past experience with brett kavanaugh, he said he sticks with presidents. i have worked with the court and they will go with precedence. they look at their law books and to see what has happened in another case like that and they stick to that. host: thank you. course judge kavanaugh talked about prece dent, which is actually the way the senators ask him about roe versus wade. he went on say directly whether or not he would vote to overrule roe versus wade, but that is what people want to know. so they have conversations about precedent, and he says he respect it, but the court does overrule precedent. and may have done it in". in".one it it does have the power to overrule it in cases that lower courts do not. saying that you respect it is not really tell us what you are edenceto do with pres you think is wrong. -- you talked about testifying, how did judge bork affect this? guest: he answered questions candidly. som

and when nixon moved over with kennedy, despite the controversy with illinois. i thought he should learn a lesson from that day. >> host: andrew jackson and the miracle of new orleans. this is abrian kilmeade third history book. >> 20 years ago c-span launched book tv on c-span 2. since then we've covered author events and over 40 programs featuring u.s. presidents. in 1999 former president georgia bush read from his collection of letters, memos and diary entries. >> the we are very close to the front. when the goose stepping arm-swinging elite guard marched in i had first saw hostile troops in hostile power. we had a little wait and i watched the changing of the guard and looked at the faces and saw my sons in yours. george, jeb, marvin, mike and ron. i saw a funeral without tears. i saw a funeral without god and thought how sad, how lonely, and i can't speak for georgia for who it was a total joy sharing the responsibilities, but let me say two things. first, thanks for sending us on an unforgettable mission. second we must succeed in our quest for peagz. >> y

kennedy: you have cynthia nixon and lea dunham saying stop holding back on using the term socialism.ocialism is great, but there have to be people in your party who look at that and say come on, man, we're not going to win elections for this. we can't pay for it. >> it depends who you are. we saw what happens with ocasio-cortez, bernie or bust, they love socialism. kennedy: it's not just them anymore, that's my point. >> it's not. yesterday republicans, 52% of republicans like the idea of medicare for all. people like free stuff or envision as free stuff even though we have to pay into it and we have socialism and nobody is getting back medicare or social security even congressional republicans week have a party that's divided, and socialism is the term like the president is talking about venezuela. i heard that when obama ran for office or re-election, we, mean democrats, we're scary and we're going to ruin this country and make it into venezuela. that's not reality. kennedy: it's interesting and what's different now is socialism is a term that's used by both sides for very differen

kennedy were able to debate at that time. why could you not do it now? mr. nixon: the difference, and that's just the point that's in the congress today. in 1960, you see congress passed , the law, the other candidates were so minor in character, the congress passed a law directly allowing the networks to allow the two major-party candidates to debate and allowing the networks -- providing the networks would not have to give equal time to anybody else. this time the congress is debating whether it will also allow a third-party candidate, mr. wallace, to have time. now if you put three men on a stage to debate, it just isn't going to work. i think anybody would agree with that. morgan: with three main candidates, you wouldn't want to debate mr. wallace? mr. nixon: and take on three? i will take on any one, but i'm not going to take on two. [applause] reverend smith. roland: vice president nixon, what would you propose or do you propose to help to develop a bill, knee group business in the -- negro business in the black communities in the united states? mr. nixon: i

. >> whether you talk about fdr or whether you talk about nixon or whether you talk about kennedy or talk about clinton, we have presidents that seem to be in politics for the right reason but presidents that also have a fatal flaw. richard nixon's fatal flaw brought him down. >> people in high office tend to not want to lay themselves open to their enemies and acknowledge embarrassing things or mistakes that they made. they tend to want to lie when they feel like they can get away with it. all those things have been around long before watergate and still are around. >> it was an age old story of an abuse of power and forgetting that you're accountable to the people that put you there, and there will be more, and we'll survive. >> what pulses through the nixon story is the question why? when he was elected, the goodwill of the nation and the world, it was his. that's the sadness of the nixon presidency of what could have been. >> woodward and bernstein are among the most famous journalists of our age. their names will always be soeshts associated with the downfall of a president. 40 y

recognized individuals and these are the -- nixon meets with the soviet counterpart more times in his relatively short presidency than throughout the interdecade before. kennedy and johnson, each have one meeting with the soviet counterpart. nixon has three. his meetings are more extensive, much more focused upon personal interrelations, much more secretive also, emphasis on making these relationships nimble, and an emphasis, and this is very important, upon negotiation. and, again, in what nixon sees as rooseveltian terms, that everything is negotiable. and that you can make tradeoffs, kissinger gives this the fancy terminology linkage. everybody studying negotiating recognizes this is the horse trading that goes on in any serious negotiation. this drives the experts batty. they have figured out systematically the way to talk about abms, and for nixon and kissinger it doesn't matter, it's all politics, all politics. they intentionally disregard gerard smith and all the others who have come to them who have spent years thinking this through. it's a belief that it's all politics, all politics, all about making tradeoffs. that's what salt is, that's what the ab

nixon administration. it was all johnson and kennedy material. he was careful to redact what he did. he struck out anything about military movements. he was conscientious at that point in his career. it is different from some of the leakers we have seen now. reg, how do you square your description of the campus with some of the other things, the popularity of snowden? what is your impression? how does that shape our understanding of where this dynamic is going? was, i don't know how popular he is. i get the impression he is. he does appearances. was at the students for liberty, for example. he did a talk via satellite. from moscow. exactly. at the same time, it is not that surprising given he has a rebeld himself like against the system, which is a common way to make yourself young people.ng i want to get back to how, i am not sure if the audience knows, most of the countries in the world make it illegal to report on certain things. secrets.nal security people don't know australia, canada, britain have very tight, i think they are nuts, tight restraints on what the press can cover. ,

kennedy school of government. he served as an adviser to presidents nixon, ford, reagan and clinton. david, first to you. turkey is revealing a lot of information about this apparent murder. what is the turks' motivation here? >> i think the turks' motivation for a long time has been they're considered rivals of the saudis. they would like to see saudi influence diminished and it would open up space for them to be a bigger power in the middle east. that's one basic motivation. but they've also had this apparent murder take place on their soil. they have a real motivation to figure out how had got done and make sure people know the turks didn't do it. this investigation is being slow walked. it's been 15 days since this man disappeared. it's time for the turks to turn over whatever audio materials they have to the u.s. government, to the saudi government. it's time for the saudi government to tell us who are these peoples are where were they, what are their alibis. the saudis owe as you lot of information, too. it's not just the turks. >> what do you think? >> i absolutely agree with that. it's time for o

it was not about the nixon administration, it was all johnson and kennedy material. and he was very careful also to redact what he did. he struck out anything about military and was quite confident at that point in his career. i think it's probably different from some of the mega leakers we've seen now, ed snowden and chelsea manning. >> greg, how do you square your description of the campus with some of the other things here. i would say the popularity of snowden. what's your impression there and how does that kind of shape our understanding of where this larger dynamic is going in the country? >> you know, snowden was -- i don't know about presence on campus. he does appearances at students for liberty, for example. i think he did a talk via satellite there. >> from moscow. >> from moscow, exactly. >> his government paid for a house in moscow. >> right. at the same time, it's not all that surprising given that he's got -- you know, he's presented the rebel against the system, which is a very sort of common way to be making yourself popular among young people is to

kennedy. but i think those are exceptions. in the case of pat nixon, and it's a very sad story -- it's a very sad story -- and my sense is that she really didn't want to be first lady. >> just a quick follow-up to that. when florence was staying right here at the willard hotel which, believe it or not, she was. in 1924 after warren died, she came here a while. she was trying to write a book about her own experiences. she didn't want anyone else writing it, so she said i'll do it and she had someone else helping her. she died and then look what else came out. it's important to let out what really happened. >> and this is where the presidential library system, you know, there are challenges, because the courts have defined privacy for the president and the first lady, and so there are obstacles to the release of materials about these matters. now, the family can always waive its privacy, but many families don't. so there are whole spots, whole, if you will, spots -- white areas that can't be filled because the family doesn't want to fill them. and that

my daddy sat us down in 1950 and made us watch nixon and kennedy. i have been a democrat since then. i think it is horrific the way most of the media -- the media caused this man to be elected. like they were talking about on joe scarborough, these people believe everything this man says. they are deplorable. they are deplorable. host: to what do you attribute the surge this year in these midterm elections? because yousurge -- can continue to run it. you turned the whole kavanaugh thing around and had the republicans as being upset because the man was assaulting women. because somebody raised their voices and screened and cursed to think eric just to do everything he could think to do to those democratic senators. you were acting like it was ok to do that. how do they ask him, how did they say something about him assaulting women. the media is the reason donald trump's president right now because you put them lies on tv every day. ,his man goes out to rallies these little racist rallies and they holler and scream and cheer him on. you are putting it

nixon is in carter and reagan. if you step back it's true. he seems out of his depth. he's preceded by these three shakespearean figures, kennedy assassinated in his prime. there will always be a sense of what might have been. johnson tormented by the war. richard nixon, you know, was a soaring vision and international affairs, but a self-destructed nature. those are figures with shakespeare. for actually is a bridge between the nixonian pragmatism and ronald reagan's more doctrinaire conservatism. but because reagan was reagan, because reagan was such a larger than life figure, because you so witty, you know, in his own way by john kennedy before him, master of the media in a way that ford never was. for tends to get overshadowed at the very least sitting at the desk and looking down on the ford museum. speaking of books, this is what a a book looks like before it's not a book, basically. these are the tip of the iceberg, but this is essential research material for the next six months to nine months. you know, there are piles of oral histories set off by themselves, but there's a whole section, several piles, dealing with his

kennedy: watch footage from the 1970 democratic convention in chicago. >> did they get what they want? no, they got richard nixon. the country when see see people violating private property and hurting people, they say i don't want any part of that. >> as the resident democrat what frosts my cookies about this whole thing is exactly what you were saying. when democrats or the super extreme part of the party go out and hunt people down, ted cruz at an italian restaurant, the right, we gift republicans and right to point to to say you guys are nuts. that backfires on us. people in my neck of the woods in northeast ohio regular democrats are discredited. kennedy: that's why a lot of those people voted for donald trump. it's not because they are republicans. but because they wanted something different. all these shouty people and progressives. who want to put people in convenient boxes, they turned off working class voters to want their lives to be better. they want to save their own money and they believe in the united states of america. >> it's intellectually lazy when you box people like this. amy schumer got arr

kennedy: we never had a conversation like this because there is nothing to compare it to except when elvis visited president nixon and took him a gun. kanye did talk about guns. and he brought up among the yarn he was spinning, he talked about the problem being illegal guns. he said some things that were practical and very republican, ned. >> very. about guns, manufacturing, china. i sat there and said this guy seems to have a good grasp on the issues. it's not republican or democrat. it's common sense. watching how vicious the left is against those people they take for granted. last week it was white women supporting kavanaugh were rape apologists, now african-americans supporting trump saying he's a token negro. saying kanye is an african-american who never learned to read. kennedy: i think the language is offensive and any commentator journalist should distance themselves from using those terms about another human being. i think it's completely uncalled for. when i look at this, i see kanye is getting so much backlash and see much heat. he actually likes it and thrives on it. but there are other people like op

nixon and then gerald ford and turned out over 35 years to be a liberal. nominated byr, george w. bush, another conservative, turned out to be as liberal as you. anthony kennedy, reagan-up appointee, turned out to be the deciding vote on gay marriage. suter, and kennedy, drift away from the orthodox jews of the republican party? therthodox views of republican party? hon. stevens: i have never been a political person of any kind. consciousonscience -- of changing my basic views. thats clear at the time president ford would still appoint me. very largeanged is a number of republicans. think allon't republicans are like donald trump. [laughter] frank: you don't think so? if that's true, why does the whole party get behind him? hon. stevens: i don't know. frank: that is an honest answer. okay. when people think about your long history, one of the cases brought up is the chevron case at rdc. you created a legal standard that has lasted for decades. basically, the congress writes laws, and everything embodied in the law isn't spelled out, but federal agencies are interested to enforce those laws. you wrote that what the federal agencies decide in enforcement should

timothy nephtali, directed the richard nixon presidential library and museum and is co-authored several book, most notably for our purposes today, john f. kennedy, the great crisis, and in 2007, a book on jj -- george hw bush. catherine al gore, president of the massachusetts historical society, dr. al gore is a noted american historian and specializes in biographies of american first ladies. most notably, dolly madison. please enjoy this presentation on how different organizations, organizations and individuals are being changed and incorporating different perspectives and moments into the narrative of presidential here is -- history. thank you so much.. [ applause ] >> thank you for the kind introduction, for including me and including all of us here, this is been a terrific few days with lots of great programming. it's hard to follow john and judy. one of the great things about this team is everyone on this panel has been a scholar and everyone has also run important historic institutions. i want to get at that in the conversation so i will start, all good research starts with questions but also, framing museums, framing presentations also s

you look at president kennedy, johnson, cliff alexander, whose daughter michelle alexander wrote the book about the new jim crow. you look president reagan, president nixon, people like bob brown, right there. and of course you look at president clinton he had a record number of minorities in his cabinet and in the white house. these are voices of people who were black policymakers, plaque politicians, people who were black intulz who would come in, right? and then you look at the trump white house and you're struck that these folks are absent. it's like suddenly there was a black out or white out in this picture. what's going on? and then you mention omarosa. now, exactly what without being derisive, what policy experience, what intellectual credential, what political celsius did she bring to that picture? i think what she brought was absolutely loyalty to president trump, someone that he felt comfortable with, apparently. she said that a lot of us should bow down to trump. that's a quote, but then she turned on him, and i guess again, i think of her as a celebrity. i think she saw celebrity opportunity and dollars in condemning trump, and even talking

nixon and then gerald ford and turned out over 35 years to be a liberal. ter, nominated by george h.w. bush, turned out to be as liberal as you. anthony kennedy, oregano pointy, turnedagan appointee, out to be the deciding vote on gay marriage. why did you drift away from the orthodoxy of the republican party? hon. stevens: first of all, i have never been a political person of any kind. i am not conscious of changing my basic views. it was clear when we started that president ford would still point me. changed is ahas very large number of republicans. i really don't think all republicans are like donald trump. [laughter] true why doesnot , the whole party get behind him? hon. stevens: i do not know. >> that is an honest answer. ok. when people think about your long history, one of chevron versuse nrdc. you createdon case a legal standard that lasted for decades. it is basically that the congress rights laws and everything that is sort of embodied in that law is not spelled out, but federal agencies are entrusted to enforce those laws. you wrote that what the federal agencies decide in enforcement should be carried with the weight of the law a

kennedy until he gets shot. here is another one. if a voice comes up to offer something different somebody shoots him down. who else is running. richard nixon. what platform is nixon running on? >> and the war. >> is not talking about pulling up the trips yet but he's promising i'm going to end the war. if you are in peoria what do you see? >> the absence of law and order and he's promising the things. >> and the democrats are running hubert humphrey. there will be a problem. the convention for that year will be held in chicago. the students for democratic action and these antiwar groups and a host of other protest groups are going to gather together in chicago the mayor from chicago was richard daly and he does not like to have the machine messed with. so i the protesters start to search he calls out his cops. what happens next will be called a police riot. do you know what that is? >> they start beating up civilians? >> the nightstick upside the sticky had. outside of the convention the news cameras are rolling the pictures are being taken. there's young american citizens being whacked in the head by the man and then carried off. as they

kennedy or johnson, you think about people like cliff alexander. you think of people like all brown under president -- like bob brown under president nixon. are people have been in the vineyards in race relations and trying to help the president understand and get the message in terms of what is going on. but in this white house, instead we see people like omarosa, police officer -- who we subsequently diminished. torosa was telling people accept him before she turned around and said he was someone who was racially insensitive and using awful language. it is not only the absence of black top people to direct -- with direct access to the president. you think about the white people there. in previous administrations, you ,ave people like bobby kennedy talking to people in order to get that better sense. there is not that type of white person around president trump. instead, you get the likes of people like steve bannon or sebastian gorka or steve miller, who is so anti-immigrant. that is who is in the white house, advising this president. that is a major change. host: you write about this, but how do you fit the h.u.d. secretary, ben carson