air war that was doing most of it. that's how the napalm and the c4 and so forth got there, or ld be other long-range weapons. and i thought about this for a long time, and i couldn't decide how to write about it. i mean, which tone do you take? what language do you use to describe something that you've never remotely seen before in your life? are you going to sound hysterical yourself? are you going to sound, if you ache the other thing, are you going to sound hard-hearted or what, you know? so i'm going to stop there because that's just one example. >> you return to the sanity of that scene, i remember something that the journalist john zack once said about michael heir, and the thing that he -- michael hare, and the thing he admired was he said, you know, thinking you go out, you're a journalist, you get the facts, you compile them into some sort of rational order, and hare allowed himself to bo insane. >> yes. >> you could see in the prose and the experience of actually going nutty, of being exhausted, of nothing making sense was part of that experience. you mentioned about the -- [laughter] sort of offic