mr. marsteller and i hope common cause. so i'm prepared to vote. you want to be heard, commissioner lee? >> commissioner lee: yes, thank you. i just have a question. is it possible for us to hold i.p. meeting between now and the next meeting over the i.e. proposal? how quick can you put that together? >> maybe i can answer that question. i do want to also frame this, this is not a disrespect to any member of the commission who is exercising a strong interest in pursuing legislation of interest, it is our responsibility to be able to tell you as best we can with all candor about the work that's before us so we are effective. and to help manage expectations of yours and the publics about what we are capable of achieving at this point. i believe it's going to be very difficult to have an interested persons meeting that is effective and useful to you at this next meeting on november 17th between now and then. that would be the next commission meeting november 17th. the following commission meeting is scheduled for december 21st, which is a friday befor