we saw that with wannacry. you see every day, whether you're a federal, state or local agency, or in the private sector, constantly battling criminals trying to take information, nation states trying to advance their interests and so it's just this sort of, just this constant ever-present activity that , everybody has to face and the interconnectedness really is what gets to that pandemic analogy. host: while we're sitting here, monday morning. are we being attacked? jeanette: i'm very careful with the term "attack." so i want to preface with that. attack, to me, you're crossing a threshold of you're trying to cause some very significant harm. not everybody takes that nuance. so i would say that every single day, every system, whether a federal agency, a bank, local government, office, you're constantly battling, if you will, actors who are trying to get into your networks, if you have sensitive data, if you have some system that powers something important, you have everything from your everyday hacktivist tryi