it was really the academy of windowdressing. so she tried to tell us that a full investigation has been carried out, that she had examined his record and found it to be far more centrist or liberal than other people -- mostly all of them -- have deemed it to be or have read it to be, rather. and then also she then went on to tell dr. blasey ford that she did not know what she was talking about. in the republican line that goes, we believe dr. blasey ford but we don't think she really her. what happened to her. and if that is not the definition of trying to gaslight someone, i don't know what is. it was deeply, deeply painful. amy: i want to turn to -- i want to tururn to the fact that neitr blasey ford or kavanaugh was interviewed by the fbi. a very different situation than beining questioned at dissident- at the senate judiciary committee. had is what dr. blasey ford called for, an fbi investigation. the criticism at the beginning was, don't just interviewed the two of them, go beyond that. i think very few people thought, mayb