to make sure it does not implicate donald trump. >> adam goldman, give me a sense of what you know about how this appointment came to be. >> well, we reported it was don mcgahn, when he was white house counsel who was interested -- who became interested in mr. whitaker, even before when mr. whitaker was running a conservative foundation called fact. don mcgahn met him at the time and liked him. and later, in july of 2017, don mcgahn brings whitaker to the white house and has a chat with him and thinks he can be a type of attack dog directed at mueller. for whatever reason, the white house goes a different way and hours a ty cobb but he keeps his eye on whitaker and then installs him as jeff sessions' chief of staff in october of 2017. >> one of the things that mcgann and others in the white house would have seen, if they were keeping their eye on whitaker is all the television appearances when he worked for cnn, some of which were critical, some very critical of the mueller probe and some which even suggested ways the mueller probe may be brought to an end. i want to read some reporting

adam as well? or are you not with goldman are you? >> i'm certainly not which by the way, gary might make a nice -- wait a minute but no i'm certainly not on that side of the trade. fine. gdp was 4.2 in the second quarter we know in the third quarter it slowed to 3.5 that's fine and very different from gdp going negative. you know if you look at the recession since 1970 and i'm talking about 1975, 85, 02, 01 and 08 very different set of circumstances employment was ugly, inflation was ugly, valuation was ugly, we don't have any of that now. fine, what we're seeing in this market is some of the money coming off the table, the s&p is only flat on the year, we're not down, we're just taking some chips off the table, the economy is stronger and people are thinking and it's going to go farther than most believe, i'm with larry kudlow on this one. connell: when he says what people are thinking he means you gary. we've got to wrap this up for today it's a good discussion both sides which we like, fair and balanced action. >> happy thanksgivi

anniversary of this terrible war is that we should be honoring people like emma goldman, like eugene debs, like jan adams who saw the war as madness when it was going on, did eveverything t they could to bring it to a stop. they were patriots also. amy: talk about jane adams, eugene debs, and others. allpart of your book to end wars. >> when we look back at the first world war, i think at this point most of us would agree that if there was any one single event in the 20th century that we could reach back and magically undo, wouldn't it be the war of 1914 to 1918? not only did it produce a colossal death toll, but it left behind a legacy of bitterness and resentment in germany that hitler's was able to manipulate so cleverly to gain power and start an even more destructive war in the holocaust as well. i think it is important -- possible to remember the second world war happening without the first. at the time it w was happening, 1914 to 1918, there were and all of the warring countries, extraordinary people who saw what was happening as madness and who often refused to fight, if they were young men eligi