dr allawi iraq's former minister of trade stefansson finance welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today dr levy the spokesman for the u.s. led coalition in iraq has said that american forces will remain in the country as long as there are needed there earlier the pentagon said that u.s. troops would withdraw when diaster is decide it do you think that will happen. yes i think so i mean there really is no need for them militarily on this resurgence of the isis. activity there seems to be some. incidents taking place along the york city and frontin which seems to indicate that there is the possibility of dosh regrouping in that area so unless and until that threat is removed i think the united states will find a reason to prolong its presence in iraq and also there are those small pockets of vises in kirkuk and on bar provinces and given iraqi army's considerable success in fighting the ash can they eliminate they remain in jihadists without america's help . i think so yes i mean as you said rightly that is not fragmented they're trying to regroup but i doubt if the

and we're back with dr allawi iraq's former minister of trade to finance and finance talking about the tension is and post isis iraq. now you were the stone opponent of saddam hussein in your life but you say that the two thousand and three u.s. invasion was illegal and resulted in dire consequences for iraq and the whole middle east are you saying that the removing of the dictator wasn't worth it. not really and this is a loaded question you have to look at look back in the circumstances of two thousand and two two thousand and three that that led to the invasion and occupation i'm on the record as being against using military force overthrow saddam the fact of the matter that it took place. and overthrew a dictatorship that's obviously a positive but replacement which was chaos and anarchy and then on the east the whole. the whole episode one of the most violent episodes in modern middle eastern history is something that has to be connected and those responsible for launching the war have to take responsibility for it. to me and it is not really the equation doesn't really hold wheth

dr allawi rocks warmer minister of trade stefansson. and finance welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today dr levy the spokesman for the u.s. led coalition in iraq has said that american forces will remain in the country as long as they're needed there earlier the pentagon said that u.s. troops would withdraw when diasters decide it do you think that will happen yes i think so i mean there really is no need for them militarily on this resurgence of the isis or dyce. activity seems to be some. incidents taking place along the york city in front to which seems to indicate that there is the possibility of dice regrouping in that area so unless and until that threat is removed.

dr allawi iraq's former minister of trade stefansson finance welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today dr levy a spokesman for the u.s. led coalition in iraq has said that american forces will remain in the country as long as there are native there earlier in the pentagon said that u.s. troops would withdraw when diaster is decide it do you think that will happen. yes i think so i mean there really is no need for them militarily on this resurgence of the isis or diet. activity there seems to be some. incidents taking place along the york city and frontin which seems to indicate that there is the possibility of dosh regrouping in that area so unless and until that threat is removed i think the united states will find a reason to prolong its presence in iraq and also there are those small pockets of isis and care cocaine on bar province's and given iraqi army considerable success in fighting the ash can they eliminate they remain in jihadist without america's help. i think so yes i mean as you said rightly that is not fragmented they're trying to regroup but i doub