wade was the prescessor to bush v gore. and like you i support a woman's right to choose, the constitutional case for roe v. wade had not been made in a compelling way and the decision was largely political, and basically led to the supreme court's hyperactivism in bush v gore. i'm not heree to talk about your book. i think it's a great book, i did a blurb for it. i'm here to talk about my book. >> david: if you want to talk about me book. >> alan: i will during the question period. i want to tell you a story about how my book got written. it's at story about hyperpartisanism in the united states. my book is titled "the case against impeaching trump" but that was not the original title. i w started to think about writg this book when we all knew that hillary clinton would be elected president. andhi whennt the republicans wee vowing on the day she was nawrgtd that they would move to impeach her.mb remember the cries lock her up lock her up. i started to draft and think about writing a book called the case against impeaching

please vote for gore," and i think a lot of people did that. - we call florida in the al gore coln. -y. stand by. cnn is moving back to "too close to call." - 565 votes separating the two men in florida with this muchtill to go. - uh-oh. something's happened. - george bush is the president-elect of the united states. he hth won e state of florida. - it was just too much variance in the way that the ballots were counted. - officials decided to count all of the ballots by hand. - with particular attention, of course, to those ballots that the machine had counted as "no vote." the punch ho is called a chad there are categories that were not counted as votes, the dimpled chad and the pregnant chad. - you had ballots that were designed poorly, and so people thought they were casting their vote f al gore, but they cast their vote for pat buchanan instead because of the way the lines matched up on the ballots,to the ous butterfly ballot. - in 2000, a lot of people that were, you know, in their 50s, 60s, whatever, they had grown up thinking ralph was this american hero, an american icon for s

al gore says we have ten years to save the planet in 2006.st three years past his sell-by date. i mention the prince of wales. he was more specific. he said we have 96 months. june 2017. we are still here. >> tucker: i can't believe it. i'm especially glad you are here, mark steyn. one of the few real geniuses i know. thank you. date. >> i am way past my sell-by date. [laughs] >> tucker: up ahead, there's new evidence of danger lurking inside migrant caravans. we'll tell you about it after the break. ♪ ♪ when heartburn hits... fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums with tough food, your dentures may slip and fall. new fixodent ultra-max hold gives you the strongest hold ever to lock your dentures. so now you can eat tough food without worry. fixodent and forget it. >> tucker: there is >> tucker: there is new evidence of danger and the migrant caravan now in tijuana. the diseases that some of the

al gore says we have ten years to save the planet in 2006.almost three years past his dates. i mention the prince of wales. he was more specific. he said we have 96 months. that was june and 2017. we are still here. >> tucker: i can't believe it. i'm especially glad you were here, mark steyn. thank you. >> i am way past my date. [laughs] >> tucker: up ahead, there's new evidence of danger lurking inside my great caravans. after the break. ♪ it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums >> tucker: there is no evidence of some danger and they migrated to caravan. the diseases that some of them could be carrying. this is according to mexican officials. tijuana doctors say that one-third of the caravan members are being treated for some kind of health issue. there about 6,000 people in the caravan, more than 100 have lic lice. if these migrants are allowed into this country, treating their elements will become our responsibility. that is what

al gore gave me the opportunity to run for vice president.a thrilling, positive experience until election night and then that 36 days after was wrust horrible. >> there's a huge undercount. you remember 18 years ago the butterfly ballot . they haven't found a way to make better ballots. how does that make you feel? >> angry, really. the election of 2000 and this year's election were close but they shouldn't be decided by the essentially mistake of an election official in the way that the ballot was constructed. clearly the butterfly ballots had an effect on the outcome. a lot of people of palm beach county, in no way who wanted to vote ended up voting for him instead of al and me. after 2000 to try to encourage a more fairness in voting but we really have to the extent we can have to professionalize and, of course, how they're counted. >> it's interesting to see how two different presidents respond to a recount in which they had deep vested interests. president clinton experienced it in 2000 versus what president trump is saying today. so, li

i just knew that al gore was for it and i was against it. either doing commercial real estate login, and then i ran for congress again in 2004. my sun came to me -- son came to me. he said, dad, i will vote for you but you will have to clean up your act on the environment. his mother agreed, agreed in a new constituency was born. that was the first of a three-step metamorphosis. the second was going to the antarctic and seeing the evidence in the ice core drillings. the third was i was inspired by aussieth of an climate scientists who cares about the creation. the cut carbon act of 2009, a carbon tax. host: what was the reaction from other members? guest:one of the republican cosponsor, senator jeff flake, who was a house member, and a democrat dan lipinski from chicago. the reactions at home was not so good. i lost my reelection in a republican primary in the midst of the darkest days of the great recession. it is exciting to see some carbon tax bills being introduced. it is completely different than it was back then. back and they were the

. - i will beat al gore like a drum. [cheers and applause] - i want my country back. [cheers and applause] - mr. president, you were elected to lead you chose to follow. and now it's time for you to get out of the way. female announcer "the conten" is made possible in part by the ford foundation, working with visionaries on the front lines of social change worldwide; the william and flora hewlett foundation, helping people build measurably better lives; the corporation for public broadcasting, and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. - bloid media and the political media converge for the first time, and you suddenly have the camera scrums of people shoving each other aside, elbowing. the tabloid reporters are jumping over bushes. - could we not push the crowd? - this is not just big political news, it was gossip. - i officially announce my candidacy for the office of president of the united states of america. bold leadership. - all four television networks covered jackson. it was called "the body watch." they were assuming that he was

al gore is here, everybody! yeah. he-- he stopped by to pick up our recycling, so i figured while he's here, we may as well chat. but first, let's catch up on today's headlines. first up, the russia investigation. it's back in the news. and at this point, this thing is like a sale at a used honda dealership-- it never ends. ( laughter ) well, you may remember a few months ago, special counsel robert mueller convinced trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort to flip against trump. but now it turns out manafort may have double flipped. >> let's start with our top story. this new revelation raises some big questions this morning about what is going on in the russia investigation. was former trump campaign chairman paul manafort playing both sides, in effect? >> "the new york times" reporting overnight that paul manafort's lawyer repeatedly briefed president trump's lawyers about his client's discussions with mueller's team after the former trump campaign chairman already agreed to cooperate with the special counsel

that's what cost al gore the presidency way back then, so gore the presidency way back then, so floridat race, a lwa ys so florida is always a tight race, always an important state. there's been a lot of intense campaigning there this time because the democrats thought they could win the governorship, and they would retain their senator there. the republicans had poured money into in the hope of getting rick scott elected to the senate, so it has been a very intense focus of the campaign over the last few weeks, and that's why all the candidates are clinging on so all the candidates are clinging on so desperately and hoping there's still a chance of moving be resolved one way 01’ still a chance of moving be resolved one way or the other. we're going to have to wait and see what this first recount delivers, but it could be that it takes even longer, we could be recounting even beyond next week. stay with us on bbc world news, still to come: why the plight of the orangutang is too political — a british supermarket is banned from showing a tv ad about the dangers it faces. the bombastic es

that was alger. -- that was al gore.o i got involved in the campaign and worked on it for a while. it was a successful campaign. brian: was that the last time you did political work? i also workedno, on senator gore's presidential othergn and i worked on campaigns locally. i live in north carolina now. and i worked on presidential campaigns. i worked in the clinton-gore transition later. one thing often leads to another and the work i had done in the people i had met along the way have continued to be important. brian: what did you take away from being anti-politics -- inside politics instead of outside? mr. gerhardt: it is very hard work physically. people who are good at it really have to be up at about and on .or seven -- 24/7 it is physically demanding. and it is intellectually demanding. you have to know a lot about a lot of different things. hopefully something more than just superficiality. cynical about people in politics but my view up close is that these people work hard and care a lot and often have to know a

there was still people in camp gore who think they got screwed in the process. what did al gore do.. they said congratulations to george w. bush. that's different than the tone. they let the process play out. this is the current president. >> if you look at broward county, they had a horrible history. if you look at the person, in this case a woman involved, she had a horrible history and all of a sudden they are finding votes out of nowhere. >> you notice the votes never go the other way? they hire lawyers and the votes don't ever seem to go the republican way. i don't know. you tell me. it's always gps fusion and crooked stuff. you have this guy elias who represented hillary clinton and a lot of shady things. what you ought to do is get smart. >> for those of you who have been strapped in for the entire trump administration, gps fusion involved in the dossier, mark elias is a lawyer for the senate campaign in the state of florida and did represent hillary clinton and the dossier work is being done and mark elias started that work and he did mark ups. part of the problem is as we t

mayor koch, who had endorsed setor gore, gs going around trying to jewish votes for gore. - but on theng arafat, and he thinks maybe jews rs and other supportef israel ould vote for him. they gotta be crazy. both: down with jackson! down with jackson! down with jackson! - what happened was that we won the city, but we didn't win the state, and angore dropped out, so after new york, it was a two-person race. with reverend jackson, i said, "you know, you can't win this nomination now, id and he said--he "you don't get this. "the campaign may be over, but the crusade continues. - the democratic party wanted us to cave in, but wouldn't cave in. - most campaigns end because they run out of money. he had thetooney to go on anave a formidable presence at the convention. - he brought the audience to their feet, bringing rosa parks out as his special guest. - the mother of the civil rights movement. ladies and gentlemen, mrs. rosa parks. - and it's basically saying his candidacies were continuing the work of rosa parks and the foundation that she had laid. - hands that picon will pick the next

i worked in the clinton-gore transition later.ne thing often leads to another and the work i have done and the people i had met along the way have continued to be important. brian: what did you take away from being inside politics instead of outside? mr. gerhardt: it is very hard work physically. people who are good at it really have to be up and about and on pretty much 24/7. it is physically demanding. and it is intellectually demanding. you have to know a lot about a lot of different things. hopefully something more than just superficiality. we oftentimes it can be cynical about people who go into politics, but my view up close and i someone who studied history is that these people work hard and care a lot and often have to know a great deal to do with they are appointed to do. brian: we have done a series of programs about presidents. one of those in this book is one that my age can remember very well, and that is jimmy carter, president 1977 to 1981. if somebody said out of the blue, explain jimmy carter as a person? gerhardt

al gore called george bush to concede and then took that concession back as things got closer.ight now ron desantis leads gillam by 38,598 votes or 38,484 on the board. it keeps tightening. less than half a percentage point which triggers a machine recount. gillam conceded on election night but here we go. >> every single vote be counted whether it is an absentee vote, whether you voted on election day, whether it is a provisional ballot. we want every vote counted. >> reporter: commission a harsh tweet about the lawsuits come his state and nelson's are closely tied together. to georgia a little more complicated. you have to win an outright majority or there's a runoff. that is stacy abrams's goal. brian kemp is awfully close to dropping below that 50% margin. how close? abrams put out a tweet saying she needs 25,626 votes to get a recount. the secretary of state's office says there are 21,000 on official provisional ballots meaning she would have to win more than 100% of the outstanding provisional vote, a tall order considering the most she won any county by is 38% and if thi

gore which resolve the presidential election. criticizes the gun-control ruling in 2008 the said there was an integer right to own a handgun in your own home. criticizes citizen suge knight on campaign finance regulation and shelby county which guided most voting rights after 1965 and more candidly suggests that a burger fell, the gay rights willing going to clean the right to same-sex marriage, while probably correct by festive and put off by the court and allow legislatures and perhaps congress to do. that's the thrust of the argument and it's a difficult argument as a guard at home because people confuse outcomes they like with whether the court to reach them. my own views are extremely liberal as a political matter on abortion. i think that in the tragic choice between the rights of a woman at the right to the fetus i would err on the side of the woman. but i think that decision is best made by legislatures, and you should win, and the victory that roe gatewood better have been achieved in legislatures that at the corporate i

. >> he spent a lot of time with burr, and there were rumors that were so persistent that gore the dollnted that -- that gore vidal his novel that martin van buren may have been deal at image -- may have been the illegitimate son of aaron burr. it was noted that martin van buren looks a lot like ehrenberg, and acts a lot like

bush beat al gore in florida by 537 votes.chor covered that recount and is back for this one. >> why is it happening again? we are asking ourselves the same question, why is it happening again. i have more faith we will have a better vote tally because we have gone mo electronic and i think we have advanced from the time of that election 18 years ago that we want tforget. rajini: teams are working around the clock to recountotes in these florida races. they have a deadline of th to make sure they get through them all. once that is done, if there was rgin of error of less than ape quarteent, they have to do the count all over again. this time it will be by hand. whatever the outcome, it is likely the results will be erntested in court. votes matter in election but in floridathey matter even more. vaidyanathan reporting on the grueling process underway in florida. with all the stress over brexit today, there was cause for celebration in the u.k., as as prince charles marked his 70th birthday. the party was held in buckingham pal

but since that represented a very red district and i had not looked into that at all i figured al gore is for itt but out of congress for six years doing commercial real estate law again then i ran for congress again in 2004 my son came to me the oldest of our five children and said dad i will vote for you that you will clean up your act on the environment. his four sisters agreed in a new constituency was born. that was the first step then to see the evidence so that is something of a spiritual awakening that was inspired and that climate scientist and caring for the creation with a carbon act of 2009. >> and one of the republican and those that were on the bill that i lost my reelection in the republican primary in the midst on the darkest days of the great recession. they were the darkest days of the great recession these had experience with climate change but that balance of the environmental left with those climate change. >> so why do you think they haveve a hard time dealing with this issue? i think we'll try to get him back on the line joining us from former as a former member

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the state of florida has a sunday deadline for the hand recount this stems from the 2000 bush versus gore recount and put in place because the recount was in danger of taking so long the electoral college would meet without knowing florida's results. fortunately with the senate race there is no electoral college so supervisors of the elections should have all the time they need to count every floridians ballot to make sure that candidate with the most votes is seated in january even if it has to go beyond a sunday. second, senator nelson said it and i said it and will say it again, governor scott needs to recuse himself from any involvement in the recount and do it now. he is a contestant in this election and cannot possibly be trusted to be a neutral and fair arbiter as the votes are tallied. in georgia secretary of state stepped aside for this very reason any contestant in the election cannot have a thumb on the scale while votes are being counted and it isn't just that governor scott is appearing to be conflicted showing without any doubt how conflicted he is. alleged voter fraud were

. >> he spent a lot of time with burr, and there were rumors that were so persistent that gore the doll planted that -- that gore vidal his novel that martin van buren may have been deal at image -- may have been the illegitimate son of aaron burr. it was noted that martin van buren looks a lot like ehrenberg, and acts a lot like ehrenberg, trying to organize factions and getting southerners and northerners together. >> sunday night at it :00 eastern on c-span's q and a. >> on c-span's newsmakers, our guest is usaid administrator mark green, a former congressman with a deep background in diplomacy, and humanitarian assistance programs and sworn in in 2017. let me introduce the reporters who will be asking questions, the washington post diplomatic correspondent and from the wall street journal, reporter on national security issues. >> ambassador green, since you have been in this office, you have spent a lot of time about how the goal should be to eliminate the need for foreign aid by encouraging resiliency so countries can weather disasters. a half, can you give an example of where you

bush and al gore descended into chaos a recount has been ordered for two high profile races in the state but i was on a report from washington. the midterm elections are over but not in florida the race for governor and senate are still undecided too close to call so winners have not yet been announced in the senate race republican rick scott got fifty percent of the vote bill nelson the democratic incumbent forty nine point nine percent only fourteen thousand votes separate the two candidates out of over eight million cast in the state. now both republicans and democrats are accusing each other of wrongdoing and it's gotten ugly i will not sit idly by while an ethical liberals try to steal this election from the great people florida the governor's race in florida is also headed for a recount with republican congressman ron decentest at forty nine point six percent of the vote compared to n. drew guillen's forty nine point one about a thirty six thousand vote difference we don't just get the opportunity to stop accounting votes because we don't like the direction in which the vote tally

amazing to think about the bush- gore recount 18 years ago this week.nk you very much, ed o'keefe. during the impromptu press conference that you just saw, the president also put some distance between himself and matt whitaker, the acting attorney general who now supervises the mueller probe. paula reid has more on this siory. >> mr. president? >> reporter: president trump today denied knowing the man he just appointed as the nation's top law enforcement official. >> matt whitaker worked for jeff d ssions, and he was always extremely highly thought of, and he still is. but i didn't know matt whitaker. g reporter: but acting attorney general whitaker has visited the oval office so many times, some of his justice department colleagues suspect him of being a white house spy. whitaker will now oversee special counsel robert mueller's investigation into russian meddling in the 2016 election. president trump said he has not spoken to whitaker about the special counsel, and responded this way when asked if whitaker was chosen to rein in the probe: >> what a st

people rave remember the hanging chads from the year 2000 when george bush and al gore were fightingte house is that george bush eventually won the florida recount and that put him in the presidency, that's what cost al gore the presidency way back then. so florida is also a —— always a tight race, always an important state, there have been a lot of campaigning there because the democrats thought they could win the governorship and that they would retain their senator there. the republicans have poured money in in the hope of getting rex scott elected to the senate. so it has been an intense focus of the campaign over the last few weeks and that's why the candidates are clinging on so desperately and hoping that there is still a chance of moving the results one way or another. we will have to wait and see what this first recount delivers but it could be that it takes even longer, we could be recounting even beyond next week. danjohnson in washington, thanks very much indeed. stay with us on bbc world news, still to come, why the plight of the orangutang is too political, after a brit

you mention the recount in florida, bush vs gore, very famous moment, is there something about the wayounted in florida that means this might be more likely to happen in this state? florida has made considerable changes since 2000, and their voting tally is much more accurate. we don't have some of the confusing ballots they had in 2000, so confusing ballots they had in 2000, soi confusing ballots they had in 2000, so i don't think we're dealing with the same problems. all we're dealing with is the fact it was very, very close. we've had very close senate races in minnesota, al franken had a very close senate race about eight yea rs very close senate race about eight years ago, when he very, very narrowly won the united states senate. we've had close races, and when there is a close race, you do recount the ballots, because, as i say, there's always going to be some balance where it's confusing who the person voted for and it's important every vote is counted and you don't cut off the recount too soon, because that does create problems with respect to legitimacy and whoever wins the el

very specific regulations from the secretary of state that were promulgated in response to bush v gore then those extra votes would get added into the tally which is the certified, wo according to state law it would be certified to the secretary of state of by sunday. >> these are done with deadlines in mind. what happens if these counts can't take place before these deadlines. what's the legal resource for the teams involved? >> so, under state law if the supervisors of election from a particular county doesn't provide updated results to the secretary of state's office by the statutory deadline in response to a recount then state law provides that the secretary of state's office uses the last results that were provided from that office. so that might be the results from the initial count, what are called the unofficial results. so state law provides an enforcement mechanism for the deadlines. several lawsuits have been filed challenging these deadlines, arguing that despite the state statutes they shouldn't be enforced. >> this is our guest, michael morley to talk about that recounts

george w bush beat al gore in florida byjust 537 votes.k to this one. -- this tv anchor. why is it happening again? we are asking the same question. why is it happening again? i have more faith that we will have better vote tally because we have gone more electronic andi because we have gone more electronic and i think we have advanced from the time of that election 18 years ago that we all want to forget. teams are working around the clock to recount votes in these florida races. they have a deadline of thursday to make sure they get through them all. once a's done, if there is a margin of error of less than eight quarter of a percent in any of these races than they have to do the count all over again —— but this time it will be by hand. whatever the outcome it's likely the result will be contested in court. votes in every election, but in florida in a matter even more. rajini vaidya nathan there. rajini vaidyanathan there. this was a big election issue. hundreds of central american migrants travelling through mexico towards the us have r

gore recount and was put in place because the recount in 2000 was in danger of taking so long that the electoral college would meet without knowing florida's results. fortunately, with the senate race, there is no electoral college. that means supervisors of the elections should have all the time they need to count every floridian's ballot to make sure the candidate with the most votes is actually seated in january even if the vote count has to go beyond sunday. now, second, senator nelson just said it, i've said it and will say it again. governor scott needs to recues -- reduce himself from any involvement in the recount and do it now. he is a contestant in this election and can't possibly be trusted to be a neutral and fair arbiter as the votes are tallied. in georgia, secretary of state brian kemp stepped aside for this reason. any contestant in an election can't have a thumb on the scale while votes are being counted. and it's not just that governor scott appears to be conflicted. he has said and done things that show without any doubt how conflicted he is. he alleged voter fraud w

. >> neil: gail, i remember with the gore-bush, bush-gore recount, there was criticism about certain counties getting recounts and others not. and retrospect, the gore folks errored by focusing on palm beach counties, broward county. the same democrat counties here. but the scott folks said we don't know the universe we're looking at here. we don't know how many ballots right or left we're talking about, right? >> right. every american should be concerned about that. if you don't know how many ballots they are going through and tabulating, then you can add ballots and we've seen through the history of elections in this county, the recent history, there's been a lot of problems, a lot of lawsuits, there's been sanctions against broward county for irregularities for violating the law. we saw news reports this week there was an entire lock box fox with provisional ballots. if highest importance of a board of supervisors or elections to make sure that they are able to conduct elections in a fair manner. this is not the case in this situation. rick scott is rightfully challenging this in

without question that cost al gore the election. if they didn't vote, they didn't vote. that issue is off the table. but if the ballots are found, then those will be counted. >> there could be as many as 24,000, too. but the end game for bill nelson there is it sucks for him. if it was due to ballot design, nothing will come to it. it's striking to me that there could be a legal battle here, but there is very much a public relations battle. and the republicans have learned the lessons from the example they set in 2000. you have to set the narrative that you are having this stolen from you. the fact that andrew gillum conceded on election night is a huge part because it is hard to unconcede. >> right. of course, that's so unusual that we, at this moment in time, have the president intervening via tweet after that very blistering statement last night from rick scott about the two lo lawsuits that he filed against officials in broward county and palm beach county. it is just so unusual that you would have this situation where, in fact, the chief executive is ordering his de

the bush-gore recount in florida, the margin was 535 votes. that's very different from 15,000., what's unclear is whether they will set -- when they count all the votes for the first time and the margin keeps shrinking if the margin goes down to 1,000 votes, then the recount might actually matter. but at this point i am unaware of any recount that has shifted 15,000 votes. >> david, it's interesting to hear the president say why are they always finding democratic votes and never shifts in the favor of republicans, which is not always the case. but it's also the same president that said there were millions of illegal immigrants or undocumented voters voting for hillary clinton in california which is why she won the popular vote and the commission which ended up disbanded found nothing. >> when we get to the president on this, the question of people having suspicions of it being tipped one way or the other, in this program alone we started with a story about whitaker and how the president has been lying about he knows whitaker and he doesn't know whitaker and moved to a story abi

al gore went on national tv that night and said the supreme court has spoken. encourage all my supporters to accept that outcome as final. and i think, again, the danger we see, particularly from president trump is, he is so little invested in democracy, so little committed to our system that if he were to lose in 2020 what he would do about that, that's something we should all be concerned about. >> great point. ron klain and david becker, thank you both for your time. >>> coming up the midwest can be tough for democratic candidates. senator sherrod brown has it figured out for a 2020 run, after this. >>> for democrats some of the best news to come out of election night came from the industrial midwest. democrats conseven out of eight marquee statewide a ises in wisconsin, michigan, ohio and pennsylvania, all states, of course, the president won two years ago putting them in the white house. the one democratic loss came in ohio where richard cordray fell four points short. ohio's democrats make it challenging for democrats, particularly in this era. trump won

dave boies represented al gore. he joins me next. ♪ spread a little love today ♪ spread a little love my-y way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ philadelphia cream cheese. made with fresh milk and real cream makes your recipes their holiday favourites. the holidays are made with philly. their holiday favourites. ♪ (electronic dance music)♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ well you remember what happened last year. you can't bring a backup thanksgiving to my sister's house. it's not like we're going to walk in with it. we'll bring it in as we need it. ...phase it in. phase it in? yeah, phase it in. >>> well, tonight in the florida senate race, republican rick scott leads incumbent democratic senator bill nelson by just under 15,000 votes. scott's lead is narrowing as more votes are being counted right now. both sides now expecting a recount after the actual counting of votes is completed. joining me now to discuss this, david boies, lead counsel for al gore during the florida recount battle in the 2000 presidential election. oh, my

one of the things that we hope that we have learned, but i don't think we have, since bush v gore, is that there is a process. i mean as you just pointed out, this is a very narrow margin at work here, and that's what has triggered the automatic recount. there is a process. and they're doing it. there is no crisis. there's no need to be in a huge hurry from a legal point of view. to hurriedly get the final results. there is a process. now, i think what is really important, everyone is of course reminded of the presidential election and the recount in bush v gore. the really important thing is this is a time for judicial restraint. one of the great controversies and personally i think a terribly negative outgrowth of the bsh versus gore case is the supreme court unnecessarily reached out and interfered with the electoral process. there was a process that could go on. i'm a believer in count every vote. and they should let that get done. of course, there is politics involved, if someone is watching their vote count go down, they want to get in there and do something about. it transparen

washington experience, i mean, you were chief of staff to joe biden, you were chief of staff to al goregiven what we've seen telegraphed in the russian interference campaign and what trump telegraphed in 2016 ahead of that election that i think even they thought that they were going to lose, what's the way to fight it or what's the remedy to that? having been through it before and knowing that it's coming doesn't necessarily prepare you to stand up against it when it does happen. >> i think there's three things we need to do, right? the first is we've got to get the partisans out of the vote counting. the outrage in florida is that rick scott is the chief legal officer of florida. he's also the republican nominee for senate. he sent police in to try to investigate the recount. and as you said, over in georgia, even more outrageous situation, brian kemp, the secretary of state, the chief elections officer in the state, declined registrations, purged the rolls. having these partisans involved in this voting process is bad news, there's no question about it. secondly, we have to invest in

a lot of powerful people working the phones, al gores, john kerrys. president obama has not quite endorsed her, but gone out of his way to say she is a great legislator and would be great for this spot at this time. she has been meeting with groups of supporters in her office, opponents in her office, she has been meeting with the different caucuses, black caucus, hispanic caucus, democrats, blue dogs, all these factions within the party and essentially, she is running the show postelection as if she is the shoe and for the speaker and that is consistent with public statements she has been making. she projects nothing but confidence and says she will be the speaker without a doubt. the math looks different right now. if she has a math problem, everybody knows that. the question is what can she do to peel off some of the insurgents that announced they would vote against her? she has made some strides in the last week. marcia fudge from ohio was one of the leading critics of pelosi until pelosi sat down and talked to her and promised to resurrect an old

bush about that because he was a republican. >> ask al gore. >> or al gore, right, during the recount2000? i got to move on because i want to talk about, speaking of the russia investigation, roger stone's associate -- in is for you, ryan -- says that he expects to be indicted by the special counsel. we didn't hear much about mueller leading up to the midterms, but now things are really ramping up again. >> yeah. and, look, you know, stone and other people in this investigation who are not the most trustworthy characters who have made similar claims about how they're about to be indicted, so take it -- maybe take it with a grain of salt. but he is saying that -- he told a story today on youtube that, you know, his negotiations, his talks with the special counsel's office broke down and that he's now in the crosshairs. so, you know, i wish we knew a little bit more about what was -- you know, why they were looking into him so aggressively and how this relates to stone in the end. but, man, from everything we know, they have -- mueller just seems convinced that roger stone was the link

al gore went on national tv that night and said the supreme court has spoken.ourage all my supporters to accept that outcome as final. and i think, again, the danger we see, particularly from president trump is, he is so little invested in democracy, so little committed to our system that if he were to lose in 2020 what he would do about that, that's something we should all be concerned about. >> great point. ron klain and david becker, thank you both for your time. >>> coming up the midwest can be tough for democratic candidates. senator sherrod brown has it figured out for a 2020 run, after this. (chime) - [narrator] meet shark's newest robot vacuum. it powerfully cleans from floors to carpets, even pet hair, with ease, and now for cleaning surfaces above the floor, it comes with a built in shark handheld. one dock, two sharks. the shark ion robot cleaning system. at fidelity, our online u.s. equity trades are just $4.95. so no matter what you trade, or where you trade, you'll only pay $4.95. fidelity. open an account today. >>> for democrats some of the best

bush al gore presidential race of course all the rest is history now but bush ended up winning the state of florida by less than six hundred votes and that was enough to get him into the white house and now we're seeing another recount in florida both republicans and democrats are accusing each other of foul play in stuffing the ballot boxes and trying to extend the election or change the results or what have you but the bottom line is this is a recount of all of the votes there between the senate race between republican rick scott who got fifty point zero percent of a close and bill nelson the democrat who got in there he nine point nine percent of the vote only about ten to twelve thousand vote difference there are more than eight million votes cast in the governor's race as well the republican also holds a narrow narrow lead he has forty nine point six percent of the vote to andrew gillum the democrat forty nine point two so you can see how tight these races are and that's why the recount of the votes is happening beginning on sunday expected to last at least five days but it's going

gore fiasco.as a rehabilitative measure that florida tried to undertake to ensure you never had it repeat again. now, of course, it didn't work out. we do have recounts. but in many ways you're counting for the very first time. the term recount can be a misnomer here because in some of these areas you have the overseas ballots coming in. you have undercounting of ballots because of mismatched signatures. i think a lot of this comes in large respect from these blanket assertions, these bald assertions with no facts behind them. in fact the florida police have found no evidence of fraud. the state elections commissions have no evidence of fraud. judges have said -- looked at one of nine lawsuits and said there's no evidence here. you can't just make a bald assertion because it did not go your way. and it may be very nerve-racking for people but there's nothing nefarious about trying to count the ballots to ensure that everyone's ballot is counted. that's the way it's supposed to be. that's what ever

bush and al gore in 2000. they're at it again that state. they're going ballot by ballot in broward county. the only thing missing, those infamous hanging chads. remember those? republicans have seen their leads in florida's u.s. senate and governor's races dwindle as new ballots have been counted since election day, which is why governor rick scott whose lead in the tight senate race has narrowed significantly, why he followed a lawsuit demanding voting records in his own race. his opponent bill nelson fighting back insisting that when every ballot is counted he'll win. and then there is arizona's senate race. this is where democrat kyrsten sinema's lead over republican martha mcsally has expanded to over 20,000 votes. i have said this before. president trump must be really, really rattled tonight. the blue wave in the midterms is actually bigger than it looked on election night. house democrats have picked up 30 seats, and out of ten house races, not yet called by cnn, the democratic candidates, their leads in five. democratic candidates l

gore seriously, that presents an equal protection argument.ecause one of the things the court said is that you can't have people in one county not having as good a chance as having their votes counted as people in other counties and that's exactly what happens when you have defective machine like you do in palm beach. so two things. one is give them a realistic amount of time. and second, make sure the machines are working. the optical scanning ballot system is a good ballot system, but the machines have got to work. i think that's easily correctible with a trivial amount of money. >> if i could just reiterate a point david made earlier. i mean, the bush/gore recount in florida was a matter of ultimately a little more than 500 votes. the margin going into the manual recount is more than 12,000 votes. that's a close election from a political perspective, but it is not a close election as recounts go. the odds that nelson can make up this in a manual recount strike me as close to zero. i mean, that is a lot of votes for a recount. and i don't th