dudamel himself. did you get to meet gustavo? >> it was pretty exciting, so many feelings just a. he's a big person in our life. >> brown: as dudamel is moving forward in los angeles, his homeland of venezuela is another story, after years of political, economic and humanitarian crisis. el sistema is a governme- funded program. and the simon bolivar orchestra regularly performs at government functions.en dudamel has trongly criticized at home for being too cozy with ese regime of ent nicolas maduro and not speaking out against hisit authian policies. after dudamel did write a "new york times" op-ed last year critical of the government, maduro responded by canco ing urs of the bolivar orchestra. i asked how this has shaped his own se what music and an orchestra can do. >> you have to understand your position and your role in the society.ev and i beand i really believe that you can create bridges. can unite. for me music have to unite. if you get from one side to the other, then you ll that, then you destroy that possibility to build a communication. that is the thing. but of course