so, i mean, there are numerous of those cases, but i'll just give you three -- kollock is like that, grimaud is like that, avent is like that. so these are all places where the delegation is to a civil regulation as it is here, but if you violate that regulation that some secretary or attorney general or whatever has written, you're going to face criminal sanctions. so what's the difference between this case and all those other cases where we said that's -- you know, that's -- criminal sanctions is not what matters? ms. baumgartel: well, kollock is the perfect example because this is very different than oleomargarine label. this is not a question of congress -- justice kagan: you know, you can say that, and it's easy to make fun of oleomargarine labels, but the person who violated that provision was going to go to prison in the same way that the person who violates this provision is going to go to prison. ms. baumgartel: it's not making fun, your honor. it's that there are certain fundamental choices about a statutory scheme that congress itself must make. and so congress can say tha