you'd been saluted for your vision and leadership by the former un secretary general, ban ki—moon.e system, and a lot of people were very happy when you got that post. has it been as you expected? are you enjoying it? oh, i love challenges! when people say, "we can't do this," i say, "yes, we can," and we get on with it. i think the biggest challenge was to move from what we'd committed to in 2015, which was massive, on the sustainable development agenda which has changed the paradigm of how we do development, to the paris agreement, to financing, and then to make that more than words. i think that's been the challenge and a half. sdg 5 is the one that promotes gender equality and promotes women's empowerment, and you have described that one as the docking station of all the other sdgs. what did you mean by that? i meant it wasn'tjust about as looking at the targets and the goal for gender equality, but if you look at it as a docking station for the other 16, every single one of those goals feeds off it, and the goal feeds into it. if i look at education, for instance, gender equal