angela: leo brenton. amy: and he's the one who in court, turns to the jury and said, be black for a minute. bebecause the idea thatt you went underground, he said, you will automatically think that means she's guilty. but change the color of your skin and don't worry you can go back in just a minute. and think what you would do. think what you would do if you were black. in america at t that time. and the police were going after you. and the fbi. amy: leo's first love was drama. he studied drama. [laughter] angela: and so he had this sense of how to capture the attention of the jury. many many years later,r, we were atat harvard.. charleles ogletree did an event at which he inviteted me and my siblings and the attorneys. and leo remembered word for word thehe closing argument. and he stood up in front of these students. this was in the 1990's. and gave the closing argument again. amy: is it trurue that at one point they sat a woman, a good friend of yours next to you, to show the unreliability of eyewitne