nonviolent drug offenders to try to continue to help some of the women i left behind i did time with danielle barbara mary richardson they've all done well over twenty years these are all guys who are serving life these are for pot he's for l.s.d. . i have just got back from washington d.c. . i was there for a on a fundraiser about the whole clemency project that's happening and in fact i took. all these guys to the front in front of the white house and anyway there's several of them that i stood out in front of the white house advocating for their clemency when i started practicing law almost forty years ago there about a half a million people in prison. and today there are two point three million people in prison billions of dollars have been poured into the prison expansion not only of the federal prison capacity but billions have been sent to sate local governments to expand their present capacity and during the one nine hundred ninety s. we were building on average a prison a week and as soon as these prisons were built it's important to emphasize that they were immediately filled up with first

barbara quaid joins tonight's panel of geoff bennett, danielle lajae, and matthew coninani. but barbara, i want to start with you. your reaction as a u.s. attorney to hear a former u.s. attorney in rudy giuliani saying, they're not big crimes? >> well, to suggest there are some crimes that are more significant than others i suppose has some truth in seriousness but that doesn't mean it doesn't count and you get a free pass. for one thing, there are civil matters in campaign violations. that happens when people are forgetting to dotcross a "t" ort an "i." this was what president trump sought to deceive. so it is a serious crime. and to hear a former u.s. attorney dismiss it as not so i think is disingenuous. >> i'm curious of your take of the president's legal exposure. right? you have the mueller probe. you have new york prosecutors not just with the michael cohen investigation and the stormy daniels issue, but also apparently the inaugural committee. then you have the new york attorney general examining the trump foundation. you've got the lawsuits followed by the attorneys

leading our discussion now daniel goldman, formal federal prosecutor who was inside the courtroom today, jill wine-banks and barbara mcquade, a former federal prosecutor. all three are msnbc legal contributors. you had one of the precious spots inside that courtroom today. that transcript reads really dramatic. what was it like to be in that room? >> it was intense, lawrence. i've been in that courtroom many times and ones just like it in that building hundreds of times and i sat through sentencings and i had at various times to pinch myself because here we are talking about crimes implicated of the president of the united states. and it was when i thought the judge made i thought a somewhat gratuitous statement to repeat the line that michael cohen committed the campaign finance crimes in coordination with and at direction of individual one. and michael cohen's speech was quite emotional and quite intense. and i think what he has demonstrated is that he has been singularly focused on history and he said i don't want history to view me as the villain in this case. he seemed to neglect the fact what really drove thi

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