i thought it was the strong wind causing my tears, but i think i was actually crying, because i was being. and then i was left at a place i had never been before. i didn't even understand the language. they took away my clothes and wrapped me in a purple cloth. they even took away my name. how old is this girl? seven years old? do you know why you are here? in 1997 i was filmed by an american news crew at the place i was being held, a shrine run by a priest dictated —— dedicated to the worship of deities. i was labelled a trokosi, a ‘wife of the gods,‘ paying for a crime committed by a family member. do you miss your parents? yes. i rememberfeeling a range of emotions. neglect, rejection, isolation. adding to that the idea of, that could have been my life, that could have been my life. and that‘s why i feel like i don‘t watch it much. but this report changed everything. with the help of a charity called international needs, an american viewer flew to ghana to negotiate my release. his name was kenneth perenyi, and he would become my adoptive father. he took me to the us where i spent the

i was his voice. nd i said no, this is not correct. >> it has been distracted in a way to present in reality what it's not. once i spoke out on the entrapment on the spy gate, then i had all of america threatening me. journalists, the same ones who are writing news articles about me were slandering me, trying to discredit me. >> they were reckless lies like i am not a lawyer. i am, it's not difficult to check this information, literally. or many other things like that. so i had these attacks that were very violent and they were all related to undermine my credibility. >> because they wanted me to prepare the field to what's happening now today. because now we can talk and of course -- >> and there were death threats from twitter? >> s, i had some. they said they would kill me. >> this is the depth of insanity we have reached. my wife is italian, from italy born and raised, she just happens to be blind and blue- eyed. >> i'm russian. >> but because of that they call her russian to fit another narrative.

i was found guilty. say, when i have friends that do not come from where i was, i say you think this really happened? it wouldn't really be a big deal. i know they probably believe me but to me it was a big deal. i want you to know that. this is not the person i am. where i come from window to point a firearm at a police officer is nothing else but suicide. you have to be like mentally ill to do that. i had that court case at 18. i am 31 years old right now and i'm still going to prison for that same offense. i have been imprisoned at least four times since i was 18 years old without committing a crime again. the last time i went to prison, the da suggested i did not go to prison. my probation officer recommended that i shouldn't go to prison because i was doing good. i employ people, i have a job, i take care of my family. that was probably my one flaw that they could snag me on and that is what they did. my whole adult life i have been on probation. at 31 years old i popped a wheelie in new york city an

i was very happy, and i was like ok, i got it. later, ihile, 10 days was going to fly from chicago to rome. when i was boarding, the same agent that interviewed me stopped me and told me, hi. i was boarding my flight, so i was terrified that something had happened, they do not want me to flee the country. they -- a number, and said, we want you to use this number to give us any information you have about george. and then -- in europe. they told me, are you planning to come back to the united states? i said yes, we got engaged. and then they asked me also during the interview, when you were under oath, they asked me, do you love george? mr. papadopoulos: we have an unconventional relationship. >> i thought, if they find out i don't love him i will go to jail. [laughter] , was terrified and i remember they told me a storm is about to come, be careful. i said, what storm is about to come?\ mr. papadopoulos: the agent told you that. >> while i was boarding. so that is the first time we see george in the news. before i was going to chic

at a crossroads i wasn't sure what i was going to do and i felt a little bit lost and i was inspired and so i went to the soviet union with my sister on this week trip a school trip that she was going on and i thought it would just clear my head i can come back and regroup and lo and behold everything that i saw there in leningrad with force and then the rest of people i met changed my life so it was just the perfect time of me being young enough not really understanding it who i was not understanding life and being very naive and all of a son i meet these people that are so inspiring i mean i think it would be similar if some young person here at that time and eighty's happened to be a friend and hang out with bob dylan or david bowie you know i was just blessed to me the artist and leningrad were just as inspiring and exciting and as these these famous western musicians so for me it was just fate now john as you said just a moment ago every time you travel to the soviet union you used to bring all sorts of musical supplies which were difficult to find in landing back then but i kno

i was like, mike. [laughter] by the time it was time to leave court, i was leaving in a bus with shackles. mike was in tears. he could not believe i got a two-year sentence. i was arrested in new york for popping a wheelie. it was initially a traffic ticket. they charged me with an f-1 felony. it was not really a charge. the judge still sentenced me on that. i dropped a bag of weed on the ground that wasn't mine. there was police contact. it is a violation of probation. you don't have to commit a crime. you don't have to do anything. you just have to have contact with the police. >> mike, tell us how you and meek became buddies. >> we had a pretty normal friendship amongst boys. there was a day that changed both our lives. we meant for or five years ago at a basketball game. my daughter is talking to meek's old girlfriend. what do you do? he was asking me a thousand different questions. >> how do you make all that money? [laughter] >> how do you do this or that deal. he kind of reminded me of myself. i

i was delighted. i said yes. i was on eight, backup on 11, i'm all set to go. i need to know what i will experience of things like that but i'm ready. so that is how it came to pass. >> can you put to bed or add to the story that one hears that you would kill your grandmother to get a flight and there was a deal of heavy competition for those jobs? >> i can put to bed the fact that it was aggressive but it wasn't that aggressive. the people that really control it was deke, he was the person, and he put a suggestion up to chris craft, or to bob gilreath at the time, and that went up, unless there was some real reason why not to make a change. we had the rotation, i was originally on apollo 11 and mike was on eight and then he just -- you know i was backup on it going to 11, just a rotation area.. so deke really held the whole ball of wax as far as selection goes. there was competition. people were disappointed they couldn't get on some people thought they should and other people, you know, >> the commander is bumped from 13 and you take over? >> yes. >> another m

i was lucky. ronald reagan, when i ran for president after eight years, i would not have jumped sideways and say, i have known all along he should have done this differently. i didn't feel that way. he had the iran-contra scandal that was not resolved to the satisfaction of the american people. if i'd have been there, i wouldn't have done this. you can't do that and live with yourself in terms of loyalty and character. brian: who taught you loyalty? pres. bush: my mom and dad. brian: who taught them loyalty? pres. bush: in those days, people were not afraid to teach values in school. nobody likes a braggadocio. there were values like, be kind to people. help someone when he is hurt. it served me well when i was president. brian: where you're surprised in the recent book -- were you surprised that your comment about never inviting you upstairs got such attention? pres. bush: i never made that comment. at every state dinner, we were upstairs with the head of state coming in. he did not have to invite

what i was doing. i really came away from that experience just very moved she wanted to know about me. and that is meant a lot. you are used in not to not being in the spotlight necessarily. >> and i think this happens as much with your dad. but certainly with president trump. do you think they are going way too far when they say things like that about her. it seems like a very different part from that trumpeting. >> i think people are going to react how they're going to. in regards to just my dad being that way. i talked about that also. he never drew that many people. we have never seen that before. i think it goes back to just a personal connection an argument. i would also apply that to secretary clinton. i did not know her personally. when you meet people a lot of them do go away. and i also talk about that in regards to myself in the book. people ask me all the time. when people meet you. are they mean to you. our people really giving me the benefit of the doubt. depending on what their political

on i was told i might architect into aviation. but there was an old captain there who told me if i wanted to make the navy my career, get up to the academy. >> from there, how did you give-the airplanes? mr. lovell: i spent four years at the academy. my first class term paper i wrote on the development of the liquid fueled rocket. i just donated that to the academy. the first 50 because i was so much interested in going back into aviation. they selected 50 people to teach the plebes. i was transferred down to pensacola. >> what kinds of planes to do fly?-- did you mr. lovell: snjs. i was transferred from there to kingsville. actually corpus christi, then kingsville. my advanced training was in a modern airplane called the have -- hellcat. i got my wings and i was selected to go back into jets training. that was the a pity me of itome.hing -- ep >> did you enjoy flying jets? . i still do if i can get my hands on one. because ineams out those days we did not fly whole squadrons off of aircraft carriers. i was havingpper trouble flyin

i don't think that was alzheimer's, i think that was sign of age. the integer your question is no, but i saw he was concerned about memory loss. i hope all old people are. steve: when was the last time you saw him? rep. rohrabacher: i went to his office in los angeles. a couple times. i talked to him. we had a really wonderful talk, but i was horrified when he told me he had had an accident. he went like this and showed me there was a hole in his head. he had been on a horse. [phone ringing] uh oh. mr. president, sorry, i am into an interview right now, i have to call you back later. [laughter] the president obviously. said he hadhe been on a horse. he had been riding horses since his mid-to-late 70's, and he fell off the horse. there was some liquid in their and they cut a hole in his head to drain it. i did not know if that is what they should have done. i did not know if this was a real problem. having a hole in your head at any age is a problem. that was the last time i saw him alive. steve: why did you decide to run for the house? rep. rohrabach

it was really horrendous. i can remember, we examined some of the san quentin guards during my trial and asked what their policy was wiwith respect to escapes. and they said their policy wasas to prevent escapes at alall cos. and so, we s said, "w"well, if it means thehe deah of one person or 20 persons, does that still hold true?" and he said, "yes." ifif it meant the deathh of one child or 20 chiren?n? he said, "yes." so, anywayay, i was charged with murder, kidnapping and conspiracy because the gu were registered in my name. and -- amy: y you had a major d decisin to make at that time, and you decided to go underground. angela: well, i wasn't going to turn myself in. [laughter] [applause] angela: you know? i mean, we all -- we were alall very much aware of what had happened to lil' bobby hutton, an 18-year-old member ofof the black pantherer party, when he tried to surrender to police and was killed. and it was really y interesting, an interview -- or, rather, a study was done, a poll was taken,, of people in

before i was born, my father said my great grandpa [inaudible] it was so hard and all i remember is a being hungry and desperate and afraid they could hear me and that is the first thing my mom told me us don't even whisper. but by that i feel like thinking back i was loved in my household. host color is your family, your mother and sister and father to a? >> my father died from lung cancer in prison in north korea. my mother in south korea in the countryside and my older sister we were separated for like ten years and she's in south korea studying union rights now. are you a citizen? are you going to go for your citizenship tax >> of course. what year did you cross the river? >> 2007, march 31. i was 13. >> you in the hospital. my mother remained at my bedside because th they had no money to bribe them, the nurses ignored me. my other had to do everything from keeping my incision cleaned giving me whatever food she could find. the hospital is poorly equipped and filthy. to use the bathroom i have to get up and across cross the cod to reach the outhouse. at first i was too weak to sta

i was dying. it was just a matter of time. behind the wheel of the airplane out of the right side of my devastated body, i waited for the rapid shooting to stop. then said i wrote for forgiveness. i use what little energy i have left to finish that prayer but the lights didn't go out and i began to take stock of my situation. i was 28-years-old and i was about to die. my wife would never be the one that i imagined. i'd never get married will become the mother of a boy and girl or leave the world a better place. or change the path when it was my time to go surrounded by loved ones. instead, my story was coming to an end on a dusty runway in the jungle thousands of miles from home. i don't believe it is possible to articulate how aware you become of the fleeting nature of your existence when confronted with the end. i laid there for what felt like an eternity somehow through the encroaching darkness of my final thoughts by saul ieee 7-year-old grandmother, the tough, marvelous matriarch of my family. all i could think was i not g

i hate to add, it was murder. those people, many of them, did not want to take their lives. >> thank you for coming and sharing your story with us. i am curious, you identify the survivor of jonestown. they are not many of those but obviously, you are kind of entering into that so different for most of the people who lost their lives there. i'm curious how you situate yourself let's say, maybe some of the people who escaped or the family members who mourn their logos that lost their lives there. how do you situate yourself with those people? he met with families and then the other question i'm curious about, in hindsight when you look back, was anything up with people acting suspicious? do you think back and say, we should have noticed that they were acting shifty or anything like that? sort of quick to question their fee. >> in answer to your first question, i have over the years, engage with many of the family members. we actually were successful in bringing some of the defectors out with us. and they were able t

i was thrilled that i made it to a primary and i was voting for myself. i ultimately won that election and everyone since then. >> you brought up the brett kavanaugh process. what should the democrats have done differently? sen. mccaskill: the most important mistake was, when the q in from professor ford, that letter should have been given with the fbi with the understanding that she wanted it to be confidential. >> why wasn't it? sen. mccaskill: it was a decision made by either senator feinstein or her staff. i am not sure why. i don't think for a minute that dianne feinstein was trying to hold anything until the 11th hour. they were trying to air on the side of protecting this woman who said she did not want to go public. though when you are in this kind of situation and you have that kind of responsibility, i think given the letter to the fbi as soon as they got it, with the understanding of it being confidential -- it is not like the fbi would not follow that it needed to be confidential. if it leaked it would've the accusation. this would -- the accus

remember i was, when i left my office which was around the corner from their and i was called over by the regional security offers john decarlo and in the temporary customs office to try to lift the rubble off of lizzie, she had been sitting at this desk. and was up to here in pieces of rubble and unable to move. we had to pull the rubble off of her. lizzie slater being separated from charlie and having gone through the bombing, even though she was injured and later had to be medically evacuated, she was really a strong-willed person, and wanted to keep working. and she wrote a note to her husband in which she, here it is, it's just amazing. my darling i'm alive and well hope to see you soon, meet me and tty to barcelona, it was a blast. tv white meaning temporary duty. lizzie was encouraging her husband to come there on temporary duty, what a blast, obviously. >> it shows her resilience. >> it was just incredible. it's really something to see how we were trying to communicate. it's so different nowadays when one could send text messages and tweets and things like

by the time i was sixteen seventeen i was fully engulfed in the drug game and it is only was so big it was only seven point five square miles so a lot of rumors a stylus britain along to the train detectives back then they had to take to that one the high school and they kind of got to know me very well and i guess they relayed that information to the trip narcotics and they started watching me and follow me around or stuff like that and i remember the first time that they that they raided my house i wasn't there but my mother was there and i was i think i just turned seventeen. and they locked her up and i got a phone call saying that you know your mother was locked up and they want you to turn yourself in. so i visually i turned myself in a seventeen i let my mother go and i first time you ever going to joe i went to you found because i was. i was always those. still in high school and we missed the part. when i got out i remember the detective telling me that you know as soon as i turn eighteen there's going to come back. and if i didn't straight up my life that first spears would b

i was very engaged with what i was doing, i was very happy with what i was doing.u >> harvey: yet here one show on daytime television, where the host, who now bonded with you, says, come on national platform and let's see what happens. i mean, and you weren't intoxicated by that? >> no, not really. >> harvey: you were teased in college for being a hick. you have an accent. were you self-conscious? >> no. no. i get up for it. anything i do, i get up for it but i don't get nervous. >> harvey: the first show did not go great.re there were a lot of people who thought you were abrasive. they weren't used to it.nd >> if you have a need, you find a way to deal with it. don't you? the problem is that we don't use food, we abuse food. >> harvey: and there were even producers on the show who felt y that she should never have you back again. >> everybody but you said it won't work. >> yeah, that's true. everybody told me this wouldn't work, my producers said, this guy, and the audience had a really strong reaction to you. and it wasn't good. >> harvey: did you know that at the time? it went good

i was told in those days i would never make permission because i was a woman. >> i thought people would not recognize me if my tie was fixed. ♪ david: i don't consider myself a journalist. i began to take on the life of being an interviewer even though i have a day job of running a private equity firm. how do you define leadership? what is it that makes somebody tick? many people do not know what the imf is. christine: it was set up by 44 men. david: no women? christine: on the eve of the second world war with the view to avoid major economic crisis, major instability in the world. which in their view led to the war. that is the intentions. david: where do you get your money? christine: every member contributes to the financing of this common pot. david: it seems to be an informal understanding that the world bank would be headed by an american and that has been the case. am i correct? christine: i want to believe that it is going to be headed by somebody who has the competence to do the job. it has been a european at the fund and an american at the bank. i think that is the arrangement

>> i still don't know. it wasf those thingss where, you know, i don't know what happened. it was a great moment for me, but i was quite unprepared for it. sometimes god just off the lemon drop in thehe room and says gues what. that's what happened because they catapulted me into the sort of literary promise that in a lot of ways i'm not sure i earned. ifif a person right 30 bucks. how many of you written? >> 40. >> sorry. [laughter] you know, there's something about the commercial success of a person. this is the same in music here at michael jackson was just a big commercial artist in his lifetime. and then they become classics in you and stephen as well. i've had this conversation. what's really good. just because a book as important as yours doesn't doesn't mean it has to be a great book. what's a great look and who are the people doing this? i never paid attention to awards. i never got an award. i've been blessed so much that i'd have to give god back changt right now. >> the least you got one okay. >> what i

>> i was 18. >> harvey: . u had been flying since 12. >> i had prayed my dad's old drilling beds and that sort of thing, he would put it in the back of the airplane, and fly it into the rocky mountains, and so i was flying when i was 11. when i say i am flying, he is letting me hold on some of about you learn. >> harvey: i want to take you back to your childhood. and having read a lot about you now, i feel like i see this small town with tumbleweeds all over the street. >> yeah, that's pretty much at. >> harvey: tell me about it. >> we were poor. i was born in oklahoma but we spent most of our lives in texa texas. and the truth is, my dad was a pretty bad alcoholic. and so we never knew if we were going to have money for food. we never knew of the electricity was going to be on that day or whether it wasn't. >> harvey: you not one of my favorite dr. foul line says? and i do a doctor phil impersonation? >> let's do it. >> we were so poor, we couldn't even pay attention. >> [laughs] that's it. that is pretty bad.

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michael: but she knew who i was, i knew who she was.he was voted in high school the most likely to succeed. so i wanted wanted to hang around her as much as i could. [laughter] david: what were you? you were not voted that? michael: i was voted the most spirited, friendliest at that time. david: ok, so you grew up in los angeles, is that right? michael: yes. my father was a lawyer and accountant. and my mom was a homemaker. and yes, i got to work -- anyone who is the child of a person has his own accounting firm, you get to work on balance sheets and tax returns when you are eight. [laughter] david: ok. did you, at the early ages, word -- were you a pretty good student? michael: oh, i was a very good student. but what they did instill in all of us was for us to have a meaningful life, at least everyone had to have a chance at a meaningful life. and if our children or our children's children were going to have a meaningful life or a good life, then all children had to feel they had that opportunity. and that was instilled with us. david:

when i was a kid, when i get that i was 34. before i was 34 i never thought thought about being a writer. when i was a kid my father was the greatest storyteller. i love to because you my father and a wonderful storyteller but when we have parties can there would be 20 people around and my father would start telling stories to everybody would be worried or moved or whatever. i think that kind of again unconsciously my father said this this is a you should become you should cook and you should tell these stories. >> host: janet in mississippi. >> caller: hello. >> guest: hello. >> caller: i would like to know how you ever thought about any of your writings ever going to playwrights, you know, like the piedra, broadway, like august wilson. he had several hundred of his writings and so forth in theater. would you think yours would be looked at as into theaters, what have you? >> guest: i've written a couple of plays. they have been produced. i wrote a play called the fall of heaven. it got produced in six or seven cities, cincinna

so there was enormous pressure. i worked any unit with 350 prisoners and it was 11 of the guard on the floor with me for all those people. and it was very violent. i saw people stabbed each other in front of me, and i saw myself quickly becoming more and more authoritarian and more of my energy was focused, my energy was focused less on kind of reporting and trying to see what comes notice details and things like that, and more focused on the kind of battles that i was having with various prisoners. and i promise becoming almost obsessed sometimes with, paranoid that people were trying to do something to me, or that people were getting outside of my control. i would go home and kind of feel ashamed of the person i was inside. i knows the longer i was there the more different those two people became, the person outside in the person inside. this scene that i'm going to read is from my first few weeks on the job in the prison, and this, i recently blown up on a person who i i call in shades n the book, kind a snap and s

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i thought there was an end to it. were thousands of them and i would prove to the bindery people i was so fast that i can complete it and done. i just realized, and several over. they just kept coming. the pieces of cardboard and the little things and it went on for weeks and weeks, doing the same thing and i just thought, my god. i am ready for college. [laughter] i can do this. it taught me great respect for the men and women who do that work. everyday. the thankless work that makes it possible for us to have books and folders and i learned a work ethic at the bindery. the dozens of people in that plaintiff who came there and they did the same job everyday for years and years and years. it reminded me of my father. the blue-collar workers who didn't look for passion in their jobs, they didn't have the luxury like we did to think about doing the things that we love. they had to do things a food on the table. that was my first experience, shoulder to shoulder with men and women who were making a living for their family

well, i actually was very surprised. i did not think i was going to be a good student. i knew i did well in math in high school. i was not absolutely sure how well i would do in college. it turns out that not only did i graduate summa cum laude, but i had only two b's, in shop and gym. david: shop and gym. so, ok so -- alan: i got a's in everything else, and no one was more surprised than i. david: you were called by many the maestro. did you ever think people were giving you too much credit for being such a great maestro of the economy? alan: i was getting much too much of the credit for what was actually going on. and i said, don't worry about it. it will come out on the other side. ♪ pres. reagan: it is my intention to nominate dr. alan greenspan to a four-year term as chairman of the federal reserve. alan: i just wanted to say that i am deeply grateful to the president for this opportunity to serve my country in one of its most sensitive economic posts. david: so you graduate summa cum laude from nyu, you have given up your music career. what did you do when you grad

i really loved it. it wasassive change in my life, geographically, socially, financially, as well. david: i assume the income was not the same as you had before? christine: it was like divided by 10, that's what it was. but i loved it because -- i think it was the job i most enjoyed in government, actually, will because i was selling france around the world. and i think president chirac, he knew that i was this strange animal coming out of private sector and private life and corporate life. but i think he had a lot of respect for me, and i had a huge will respect for me, and i had a huge respect for him. david: then sarkozy does get elected president of france. christine: and he asked me to be will minister of agriculture, which i had no clue about. but i was prepared to learn. will will will david: but you him did that for just a few months. christine: i did that for two months because then he asked me to become minister of finance. i think he asked me to become minister of agriculture because he knew that it

i was dying. it was just a matter of time. lying behind the wheel of the airplane with the right side of my devastated body i waited for the shooting to stop i said my acts of contrition praying for forgiveness i used what little energy i had left to finish that prayer before the lights went out. but the lights didn't go out and i slowly began to take sense of my situation. twenty-eight years old and i twwas about to die. my life would never be the one i had imagined i would never get married or become the mother of a boy or girl or leave the world a better place or be content with my time to go surrounded by loved ones instead my story was coming to an end on a runway in the jungle thousands of miles from my home. know if it's possible to articulate how urgently aware you become of the fleeting nature of your existence when you are confronted with the end. i lay there for what felt like an eternity somehow with the encroaching darkness of my thoughts i some 87 -year-old the marvelous matriarch of my family. all i could think o

so in essence i was hungry i was hungry to work i was hungry to be free. and have the ability to change my life around so all those stains. made me a good employee any mentally dismayed is minor in food and he was going to go if you know go into business for yourself. out all starting i just really felt that i had what it took to be entrepreneur and to be successful. so i quit my job and i was fully fledged into business then i had to leave my for here business i made about thirty some thousand dollars of our first year that. i remember a vest i'm back into the business i'm buying tools a mile ladders some growing the business or take my second year i read about he summed our. third year i did about one hundred thousand homes told he was surely progressing so now i want to have a million dollars next year normal to say i want to thousand miles. in the early two thousand nine hundred ninety nine or early two thousand my family went over the million dollar more. that while one zero i never thought. that i would call a million dollar business. a person has to

i was shocked. i was a brand-new officer. had never heard of such a thing being given to an agent. we agreed to do that. when we returned to moscow, we put in a second pen. inside the barrel of this pen, in the place where the ink is stored was a small capsule of poison. i have been asked what kind of poison. i don't know. it was supposedly very effective. it was at the end of this reservoir of ink. in the event he was caught, he could take his pen and bite down on the barrel of it and commit suicide. in the event he was caught, he could take his pen and bite down on the barrel of it and commit suicide. he also had a third pen, it was the normal pen that worked as a pen. what we wanted him to have was always that pen in his pocket. it was accepted as part of his daily dress, what he wore every day. how we kept him straight, i will never know, but he knew which was which. he went to moscow and arrived in the fall of 1974. i arrived in 1975. we told him we would keep him on ice for a whole year. it was shortly after my arrival i

well, i actually was very surprised. i did not think i was going to be a good student. knew i did well in math in high school. i did not, was not absolutely sure how well i would do in college. it turns out that not only did i graduate summa cum laude, but i had only two b's, in shop and gym. david: shop and gym. so, ok, so -- alan: i got a's in everything else, and there was no one more surprised than i. david: you were called by many the maestro. did you ever think people were giving you too much credit for being such a great maestro of the economy? alan: i was getting much too much of the credit for what actually was going on. and i said, don't worry about it. it will come out on the other side. [laughter] ♪ pres. reagan: it is my intention to nominate dr. alan greenspan to a four-year term as chairman of the federal reserve. alan: i just wanted to say that i am deeply grateful to the president for this opportunity to serve my country in one of its most sensitive economic posts. david: so you graduate summa cum laude from nyu, you have given up your music career. what

tion to guest: i was not. ost: the mission when you flew missioni 7, in a 14 day do you remember what your thoughts were when you first 14 days? guest: gemini 7 was looked upon group just sort of a medical experiment, which it was. we got the mission as you tphkno know. people in nasa deac slaton. i never talked to him once about crew assignments. i heard that others tried to lobby him. i didn't. it to ed when they gave me we would do the best we could. fortunately i didn't have a that was wonderful. lovell was a wonderful guy to spend 14 days. some of the doctors said in order to do that are going to on earth andate it see if you can stay in 1 and 1 g they are out of their minds. 14 days in a straight up earth?n seat on you are crazy. o, nasa at that time listened to the crew members and we were able to get that nonsense kicked a hurry and went about our business doing the by we could. to simulate?nt you guest: yes, two weeks in 1 g. no bathroom breaks or anything? g.st: no, just 1 host: when things went wrong

i was pregnant with our second child and our son was five and a half years old. so i have experienced what it was like to be a widow and to have your life pulled out from under you. before that, i thought guyana was my share of grief. everyone gets their share of grief in life. after my husband was killed, after we had two miscarriages, after a failed adoption, i realized come you know what, we are not necessarily getting our fair share. we are just given what we are given and it is our challenge to move on with our lives. so as a result of that experience, another friend subsequently lost her husband. and i went to her support. and it became paying it forward. so her husband dies of prostate cancer and we took her to lunch. and over the course of time, we took more and more people, more widows to lunch, and we created merry widow's club. it is many years later and -- we meet, here many years later, and we meet three or four times a year and celebrate life and help each other through what have been really challenging times. kathleen's daughter helped me write the

i didn't know who he was. i know the vietnamese prime minister and this guy and the state department -- he presented himself as a man of the world who could connect me to every country you could imagine, including russia. and it wasn't a secret that trump wanted some connection with russia at the geopolitical level at that time. so i said let me take him with a grain of salt and actually see what he can provide in terms of connecting the campaign to various diplomats both western and russia, just like my job description entailed me to do. and he told me after meeting me in rome that he was profiling me. what is your religion? rur sympathetic to this party, to that country? it was more of a profile instead of a, hey, you're interesting and maybe we could work something out where i could help you and you can help me. it was more profile. but when you're 28 and not in these circles, you don't know what is happening until you look back, right. so he tells me -- >> and you feel important. you're a young man meeting

do you know there was a time when i was white. ( laughter ) how old was i when this was happening?three years old. >> trevor: i was a very good looking baby, i'm sure. >> and you could get really naughty. >> trevor: mostly good looking. what did you do when i was naughty? >> those bums, they know my slippers. >> trevor: who was naughtier, me or my mom? >> you both. you never could tell patricia what to do. no. she did what she wanted to do, and she was good at her work. >> trevor: you know how mom is. >> yeah, yeah. she takes no defeat. instead of defeat, like challenging the wrong person. >> trevor: so she was not only a black person in a job black people weren't supposed to be in, but she was a manager of white people. >> right. >> trevor: but how did they allow that? >> how do i know, trevor? >> trevor: and now i'm also a manager of white people. unbelievable. >> it comes from your mother. >> trevor: it comes from my mother. do you know i'm a manager of white people? >> you don't say. >> trevor: i'm telling you. the white people who work for me. >> it's a pity because i don't ev

i was intrigued by naval aviation. and from the very young i aspired to be a carrier-based navy pilot. >> where was your training? hill, that was the pre-flight school stage. the first time i flew was in ebay's -- e in the base. flow -- fluid those two nts's.nts is -- training invanced corpus crispy some outlying airbases. , and somechristi outlying bases. >> was that your first ship? >> my first and only ship. i was assigned to the 43 with a 44. and i forgot my commission. i went to torpedo bomber training, and then we did other training. i took the ship down to trinidad and commanded a submarine that there, and then we went on to the panama kamal -- canal. could you describe your day-to-day missions? ia looked over some letters i had sent home for today. -- i looked over some letters i had sent home for today. each of us was assigned to a certain sector, and each repeat pilott -- each torpedo had cover, we would go out in search for submarines or military action of any part on the side of the japanese. missions wereba

when i was doing this book, i had to look, i had a premonition before i was taking, something was going to happen. i think on the 13th of march, i gave a hard drive of all my images to brian. photographer for the new york times. i said, i have a feeling something is going to happen. if it does, make sure my pictures survive. send this to my agency. so when i went missing two days later, he did. that's the only reason i had all the pictures from libya to that date. so when i went back to look at this photograph, it was incredible. i thought, we were insane. what we were covering in libya was unlike anything i had ever covered. i had been covering a lot of refugees. i had been kidnapped twice so i keep telling my family i'm going to stop covering war. obviously the hasn't happened. trying to do more of humanitarian work. a lot of stories about the syrian refugees, oliver in iraq, turkey. this is a long-term story on mothers, syrian refugee mothers. we followed them for time magazine through the pregnancy. through the birth of their children and through the first year of the baby's life. a

i feel like i did my very best to be honest i was shocked at first i didn't understand what was going on i was making up my shins and asking them almost at the same time how did you prepare for the interview. and show you first i was very nervous but that i just sat down and got writing a huge no questions. when i was younger that when i dressed the president for the

with me and what i was workshopped the joke in my head when i was writing it on the plane ride down to miami i didn't see it you know i don't know you just didn't read right you know and i don't know necessarily where jesse ventura came from does he just like show up as proof and play like smoke was it was there a closed book is what i want to know well like i said the best thing was that we like heard him before we saw it you know yeah and so you just hear this booming voice and then there's that what happens before you die if i can hear it. yet you when you die you then me just even yeah here is he appears at the pearly gate he is the lord he's the bouncer all. ballots are about to the pearly gates all right. did you are next up this is correspondent natalie mcgill so this isn't so much for coming out the flight here was the light full just got enough time in to get an in-flight movie if you don't see that it movie by the way the movie with the clown in the sewer grate all right good for you cannot see it i refused to see that movie i don't be scared movie

was what i was hoping to. great news honey i'm too late and give out food around here first thing in the morning so i'll miss what chaunce. there was nothing else for it if i was going to eat i was going to have to make. the most of the scopes something. it took you much more minutes to bring my soft spots mr shays. but. really just sleep oh it's. ok. she says christ just absolutely if. people buy you in the door. and there's one current guy just came every day people to quit. i didn't expect that or do. you feel so ashamed to ask people. to feel about you have to do that to get to vote to get a boy. to. the bus sandwich. just so feet ahead of the day. like slush funds. should. have been told what it was things being said to the. thing that makes me feel worse he was. the one to try out some people to see how i was feeling the time. this is the anything actually they keep happening in a as each time a territory adds to even nothing him i have nothing else in life. lisa has been homeless for two years now she's

and i was coming back with a letter i was destined for certain members of the jihadi community in london including a book i thought the. second chechen war was raging for about three months and when i called him i said i have letters for you of course basically these letters would be expertly opened by my six in a photograph and then put back together again and i never told the contents of course so i have to give the give these other numbers and he said if you come tonight one of your old friends i was either cody is going to die in from tbilisi in georgia because he is the head of that or just sticks for the hardest so when i went it was late at night because it was almost on at the time it was late at night and he dialed in it's like imagine five g. harvest on a conference call it feels coke at the little bit so we were asking about you know the russian advance towards grozny and then a book i thought to us he said was it disadvantageous to you it was putin who chose the time of the war and as a result he's gaining advantage over you and he was adequately asked about he said what do y

i was sitting in the middle seat. and i -- it was my birthday.e purpose of this flight is to meet jennifer aniston. >> yeah, yeah. go back to l.a. to meet jen at her house. and i'm like, "oh, my god, this is crazy." and so, i'm talking to the guy and i'm like, "it's my birthday. is there any seats besides middle seat?" and he's like, "no, unfortunately there's not." and he's like, "wait, i just saw your trailer for 'patty cakes'." i was like, "is there any other seats?" [ laughter ] and he's like, "no." so, it doesn't work. when people say that works, it doesn't. it doesn't. so, i sat in the middle seat and for some reason i decided to drive myself crazy and watch "friends." >> seth: okay. really psych yourself up for the jen meeting. >> yeah, pretty much. i then i went and met her and i was like, "what -- i was just watching you on a plane." and then she gave me a hug. and i was like, "oh, you're a person and you're warm and you're lovely." and it was great. >> seth: now, you're from australia. does your family, can they believe you have met peo