he'll say, well, i thought -- >> right, but jerry corsi -- >> doing the best at the time. him. i don't know how you cannot remember what he didn't remember. >> i'm not here to defend jerry corsi. i know that jerry corsi says he didn't recall an e-mail exchange -- >> yeah, guy asked you to go to julian assange, you pass it on and you forget? something that's at the center of this? >> listen, he forwarded an e-mail and didn't remember two years later. i understand the inability to remember every small thing you do in a matter of a moment. >> but that wasn't a small thing. let's go to roger stone. >> what roger stone said was he wasn't going to bear false witness against the president. the president thought he was being a stand-up guy. i don't see anything wrong with supporting someone who said they're going to tell the truth. >> right. i just don't think that that's what's going on here, is that it seems that what the president is saying is, i reward you as strong for refusing to participate in the probe any more than you absolutely must, and that's just a weird thing -- >>

reject contentions or jerry corsi -- that dr. jerry -- he wast he was so the source of any information pertaining to the wikileaks disclosures. in fact, i suppose the predictions regarding the wikileaks disclosures turned out to be entirely incorrect in the basis of speculation. doctorention that the briefed me on, the lucrative built -- business dealings in ukraine and russia prior to my tweet, inust 21, 2016 which i said, let's get it right this time, "the augusta brothers open time in the borough both will come is both accurate and entirely supported i email and ."xt message it was written as some type of cover up and defies logic in the written record. cover up of what? there was no controversy in the wake of my tweet for six weeks. there was no social media chatter, there was no media coverage, there was no mueller investigation. there was no congressional investigation, there were no subpoenas. so, cover up of what? and his colleagues are engaging in frivolous semantics, shifty word games, and nonmaterial hairsplitting, in a

jerry corsi, as suggested to him by prosecutors from the special counsel's office, that he was the source of any information pertaining to the wikileaks disclosures. in fact, dr. corsi's predictions regarding the wikileaks disclosures turned out to be entirely incorrect and the basis of speculation. my contention that dr. corsi briefed me on the poe desia brothers lucrative business dealings in ukraine and russia prior to my iconic august 21st, 2016 tweet in which i said, let's get it right this time, the podesta brothers time in the barrel will come and accurate and supported by e-mail and text message records. the contention that the memo he gave me recording the podesta brothers dealings written as coverup defies logic of the records. coverup of what? there was no controversy in the wake of my tweet for six weeks. there was no social media chatter. there was no media coverage. there was no mueller investigation. there was no congestional investigation. there were no subpoenas. so coverup of what? mr. schiff and his colleagues are engaging in frivolous semantics, shifty word games and n

war with the special counsel's office and i think the concern is that not only are people like jerry corsistone in legal jeopardy, but actually don jr. >> and he wrote that he took on a hunting trip so he isn't near a microphone. but he also say a former official is telling you that there is a chaos, there is a feeling that this could all unwind quickly. how quickly? >> again, it depends what robert mueller turns over to the justice department with this report we're all waiting on. i think that there is a sense that he is waiting -- at least in trump's orbit, there is a sense that mueller is waiting until the democrats take controlling of the house in january which would offer another measure of protection. but this is a case where we see the velocity and intensity of the president's tweets ramping up, which again is an indication that clearly this is becoming more of a source of stress and pressure on the white house. >> john, what do you think the time line is for impeachment? is it something that they want to kick everything off with three plus weeks from now? >> no, i don't. first of a

most recently, investigators have been digging into whether or not trump allies, roger stone, jerry corsith wikileaks, a russian cutout, to release damaging e-mails with allies of hillary clinton. this would also include efforts to gain dirt on hillary clinton during the now infamous 2016 trump tower meeting. okay, finally, we have investigations into trump's financial entanglements with foreign entities and governments. perhaps most notable, questions about the trump organization's efforts to build a trump tower in moscow for which he'd need approval from the russian government. michael cohen has admitted to lying to congress about the timeline of those dealings. in addition, there are questions about foreign governments buying blocks of rooms at trump properties. potentially with the institution's emollient clause. we have new investigations into trump's inauguration spending now with crimes like bribery, tax fraud, and misuse of non-profit status. it goes on and on. that's not even an inclusive list. this represents an avalanche of legal jeopardy for the president and the people around

i think jerry corsi is going to be indicted. i don't know about roger stone.ean corsi's been advertising -- >> right, right, right.. he's been basically begging for an indictment. >> right, right. >> judge napolitano, that's his own opinion, right? that's what he thinks. that's not cnn's reporting. >> that's his analysis. >> but he thinks don junior will be indicted. do you agree with that? >> i think it's highly potential. he's probably been told by the prosecutors that he's a target. that means that there's -- unless you're going to cooperate, there's going to be an indictment very likely following. he's not been called in front of a grand jury. that's another sign that he's being treated at arm's length. so he's got jeopardy. kushner, i will be surprised if he's not indicted, don. i think he's got problems. >> why do you say that? >> well, he's in the -- you know, particularly with the flynn testimony, which clearly covers transition period, and that's where jared kushner was very active. he was talking to the russians. he was looking for back channels with

jerry corsi, figure out if you can see what i'm saying right now.page took the approach of the confused businessman. so all that is left i guess for roger stone is righteous indignation, because i'm not sure what it gets him to have an open hearing that he seemed to demand in front of congress, in front of cameras if he is either going to go in front of cameras. he hasn't been indicted yet, and takes the fifth, if there are any charges leveled against him, or if he is simply going to say what he does or doesn't already know that mueller probably already has information that we don't know that he knows about roger stone. he's playing to the cameras. he is playing i think to president trump and president trump's core supporters. >> wolf, may i add one thing? >> go ahead. >> the one thing that is important to remember is were stone pardoned, he then would have no fifth amendment rights and could be forced to testify before any investigative body. so i'm not sure exactly what the play here is. if he doesn't want to cooperate, doesn't want to testify, a

jay sekulow was not saying, tell jerry corsi to do this.t happen and i wasn't interested in it. i'm not counting on donald trump for anything, including a pardon. that's not the basis on which i made my decision. >> why are you bringing up a pardon? >> because that's -- you were talking about it before. everybody -- >> but i didn't ask you about the pardon. >> i'm bringing it up because i want to make it clear that i don't expect one, i'm not asking for one and i'm making my decision on the base else that i know i'll have to face trial if they indict me and the consequences are i may go to prison for the rest of my life. >> i understand you face consequences, would you accept a pardon? >> accept a pardon? that's hypothetical. >> you brought up a hypothetical pardon. >> let's let it be offered and i'll tell you what i'll do. >> so people may take the inference you may be auditions for a pardon. >> you're asking me to tell you what people listening are thinking. i don't know what they're asking. >> but you're not asking for a pardon. >> i'm n

had a tip that the wikileaks disclosures pertained to the clinton foundation, yes, i contacted jerry corsiause, at some point, ted malloch who i met once, had dropped assange's name. like every politico in america, like every political reporter, i was interested in knowing what exactly they had. but there was no response to that. if i send an e-mail and say, we should rob a bank and spoke to julian assange? you never contacted wikileaks? never spoke about any of that to president trump? >> that is absolutely correct. i turned over one direct message to the house intelligence committee between the flack for wikileaks and i in which he essentially brushed me off. that immediately leaked to "atlantic" magazine who edited the context and publishes it. i had no contact with assange. assange himself has said roger stone is a brilliant spin master, we have had no communication with him whatsoever. >> if robert mueller develops evidence and says he can show you did talk to wikileaks and did communicate with president trump? >> that's all speculation. there is no such evidence. and in fact, going b

jerry corsi, as suggested to him by prosecutors from the special counsel's office, that he was a source of any information pertaining to the wikileaks disclosures. in fact, his predictions regarding the wikileaks disclosures turned out to be entirely incorrect. they were the basis of speculation. my contention that he briefed me 'n the podesta brothers lucrative business dealings in ukraine and russia prior to my 21, 2016 tweet, in which i said, let's get it right this time, the podesta brother'' ise in the barrel will come, both accurate and entirely supported by email and text message records. the contention that the memo he subsequently gave me regarding the podesta brothers' business dealings was written as some kind of cover-up both defies logic and the written record. cover-up of what? there was no controversy in the wake of my tweet for six weeks. there was no social media chatter, there was no media coverage, there was no mueller investigation, there was no congressional investigation. there were no subpoenas. so cover-up of what? colleaguesand his are engaging in frivolous sema

the problem for the special counsel, these individuals like jared corsi get caught up in the investigation and jerryhave tried to be forthright, i haven't lied. they found emails that suggested by testimony made good faith, was not accurate and accusing me of perjury and it is not the case. heather: we have seen it happen with other people. >> you know what is interesting here? these folks would ever be here but for the connections to the trump campaign. in the case of corsi the 6 ° of kevin bacon connections. he is holding as a witness, trying to cooperate and facing jail time. i don't blame him for yelling about it. heather: comey in a closed-door hearing on capitol hill on friday, and exonerating hillary clinton by finishing the investigation. we talked about this before and what should republicans ask him? >> they should ask him about why he told congress just before the election, evidently they reviewed the emails and why and how he took fbi memos on donald trump from the fbi, and to get the mueller appointment going. and ask about this use of the clinton dossier and what peter stzrok was up to