this one felt different to me. >> words do seem to fail us, jon meachum, because, again, what i feared, sometimes we keep talking about rogue -- the rogue presidency and we keep talking about it in dramatic terms because so much of what we're seeing we've never seen before, but in moments like these words fail us. i want to read -- i'm just getting into andrew roberts' "churchi "churchill" which i have a feeling i've just blown -- blown the surprise for about five of my relatives who probably bought all of -- bought this for me for christmas. sorry, i already have it. but he has a quote of churchill up front, study history. study history. in history lie all the secrets of state craft, and that was from a 27th, 1953. this is a man who saved civilization in the summer of 1940, he, of course, made terrible mistakes before and after, but he was prepared in 1940 for what came. i would guess that leaders like general mattis understand the same thing. but in donald trump we have somebody who is avers to studying history, who has contempt for those who know about anything that go before them.

bush, and author, jon meachum.ause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> thank you all. they already love you and haven't even read the book. >> this is perfect, man. it's all downhill. >> welcome to dallas. >> all downtill. >> thank you for coming, jon, margaret, thank you very much. laura and i welcome keith, john's wife, sam, mary and maggie. right? from nashville, tennessee. thank you for being here with us. we're thrilled you're here. >> thank you. >> so i know the subject of your book quite well. >> you have met him. >> i have read your book. >> you have, yes, sir. >> much to the amazement of some of our fellow citizens. and i really like your book and i hope everybody here reads it. it's really the first serious biography of my dad, but before we talk about the book i think people might be interested in your background, where were you raised, college,. >> yes, sir i group up in chattanooga good tennessee on a civil war battlefield, missionary ridge and history was a reel thing. can still find -- i

i want to talk to jon meachum who on wednesday will be eulogizing george h.w. bush and who spoke about him yesterday at the national cathedral. you know, jon, we to talk about what a great man george h.w. bush was and how he guided america and the world through the ending of the cold war, how he reunified germany, how -- well, just, you know, a cia director, an u.n. ambassador, ran the rnc, vice president, president, congressman, took courageous stands. he was a great man, but what is so remarkable in 2016 and the great take away from his life has to be that he was a good man. he was fundamentally a decent man. not only when he was president of the united states, but when he was a young child, a kid whose nickname was hab half because anytime you had a sandwich whoever he was with he would tell the other person, here, have half of mine. it was that generous spirit that made this great man a good man from the very beginning. >> anyone who was around him was enveloped by a kind of quiet persistent charisma. it's not a word we associate with president bush, we thi

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judy woodruff, the managing editor of the pbs news hour, will interview presidential historian jon meachum. the president -- the relationship between the president and the press is a crucial one for all of us. when you look at all of the events that a president has where he speaks, in looking from presidents reagan through trump, a third -- at least a third of the occasions where he speaks are ones where a president is answering questions from reporters. so it's an important relationship for us, simply because of what information we get from them and from the sessions that they have. the relationship is naturally a somewhat fraught one. leo rosten who was writing about washington correspondents during the roosevelt administration talked about the nature of the relationship and the way in which it's a contest over information. the newspaperman motivated by the ancient values of journalism is interested in precisely that type of news which the official, the president, is least eager to reveal. in the final analysis press conferences reduced itself to a contest between reporters, skilled at f

we'll hear from jon meachum, the presidential historian biographer who knew bush 41 very well.poll -- mulrooney, canadian prime minister, very good friends. he spoke at reagan's funeral in 2004. we'll hear from former republican senator from wyoming, alan simpson, who has known the bushes going back to the 60's, very, very tight friend of bush 41. they would go hunting and fishing together. he will have unique perspective. stuart: former senator alan simpson, when he was writing the eulogy, he will deliver today, he cried writing the eulogy so he would not cry in the national cathedral today. liz: we will see if that works. stuart: i met al lan simpson a few times. i'm sure that will work. foxnews.com columnist liz peek is with us. your thoughts at this moment, please. >> i share a tremendous no, nostalgia for a way of life no longer extent. we have a man here of extreme modesty. that doesn't play well today. humility a man of class. has nothing to do with money. it has to do with the way he deported himself. there was a time when republicanism was all admired in this country.

i reread jon meachum's book on bush 41.ress as donald trump is though he kept it to himself. he didn't tweet back then. there was no twitter. stuart: do you remember when george bush, this is way back, he went into a supermarket and appeared, according to "the new york times" he appeared to be confused at the scanning of the articles in the grocery store. "the new york times" was all over him. oh he is out of touch. he doesn't know what he is doing. rich guy who never goes into a grocery store, doesn't understand money and scanners. back then, the media really didn't like george h.w. bush. now, they think he is just great. which he, he is great. >> right. stuart: but they are using him. just for a second, i want you to take a look at joy behar on the "view" getting into a shouting match with meghan mccain about this. watch this for a second. >> if i ever become a one-issue voter it will be about pollution and the green house effect and -- >> can we focus on the president, please. i don't want to talk about trump. we're hono