'reoined byhe film's directorbetsy we and jul cohen. juliet's begin with you with the latest on ruth bader condition. she was just released from the hospital. >> i'm not been known colleges, but we do know justice ginsburg had the two cancerous nodules removed from her lung, actually a lobe of her lung was removed. .com of the hospital after just a few days, about five days total in the hospital, and is now resting, recovering, and with a view toward being on the bench as soon as possible. note she scheduled her surgery for the friday before a long holiday. it is a long tradition, she is done the same thing with chemotherapy with the idea that you want to have as little possible work downtime so you can get right back to work. amy: friday was a very busy day. she had the operation, vichy alsoruled -- but she ruled, participated on a s supre coururt decision.n. >> all nine justices had to vote on this brief order that came out. it ended up with a five to four vote. there are a lot of double negatives. the question basically was, does donald tr

joining us now is julie cohen, she co-directed the film "rbg." thank you for being here. do you have anything that you can tell us in terms of people close to the justice, anything about her current status? >> i heard from a close family member late this afternoon, she did well, it went well through the surgery and the doctors told her afterward that they have every reason to be optimistic. optimism is kind of a hallmark of justice ginsburg's life. she'll take everything optimistically. and it's served her well. >> this is not something she knew but coming for a long while. but the fall in which she broke her ribs was in early november. >> that's right. >> and it seems like, correct me if the timing is wrong, but it seems like in assessing her after that injury, that's when they checked the nodules. so they didn't put her in for surgery immediately. she went through these few weeks, but now -- i have a colleague who was on the shuttle flight with her from d.c. to new york yesterday and said she was fine, working the whole time. five days ago, no indication that anything w

joining us now is julie cohen, she co-directed the film "rbg." thank you for being here.ing that you can tell us in terms of people close to the justice, anything about her current status? >> i heard from a close family member late this afternoon, she did well, it went well through the surgery and the doctors told her afterward that they have every reason to be optimistic. optimism is kind of a hallmark of justice ginsburg's life. she'll take everything optimistically. and it's served her well. >> this is not something she knew but coming for a long while. but the fall in which she broke her ribs was in early november. >> that's right. >> and it seems like, correct me if the timing is wrong, but it seems like in assessing her after that injury, that's when they checked the nodules. she went through these few weeks, but now -- i have a colleague who was on the shuttle flight with her from d.c. to new york yesterday and said she was fine, working the whole time. five days ago, no indication that anything was up. she had to know she was going in for this surgery, though. >>

cohen now says both payments were done at the direction of mr. trump, to influence the election. in julyions with mr. trump, including this one of the two men discussing payments and referencing david pecker, the c.e.o. of american media. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all that info regarding our friend david. >> so what are we gonna pay? >> funding... yes, and it's all the stuff. >> a telephone tip to police helped head off a possible massacre in a school in indiana. a 14-year-old showed up at school with a gun just as cops were pulling up. shots were fired. when smoke cleared the kid with the gun was the only casualty. >> the call to officers was distressingly familiar. >> we have a shooter. >> reporter: the school was locked down and full of petrified kids. "mommy, i'm scared," said one text. "there is a shooting. somebody's shooting." "i love you, angel," her mother responded. police from several jurisdictions had been tipped off by a 911 call that trouble was headed toward the school. indiana state police captain david bursten: >> had they not made that call, the

out the sports page. >> jessica: there are real implications for what's going on with michael cohen. >> julieer, i don't know what incentive he he would have to lie anymore than he already has. >> kat: maybe he just loves it. >> julie: why would we not of heard about this before? >> jessica: lanny davis who was his lawyer did say that he didn't go to prague but he's not his lawyer anymore and he said he does not know what he said, which leaves an opening where it could be feasible. >> rachel: i don't think american people care about this until the actually report comes out. >> julie: i think people want michael cohen to go away. >> jessica: let's talk about the president some more. questions over how much of the president has changed the office of the presidency and the workings of washington. whether those changes are good, bad, and if they are lasting. we will debate it next. ♪ ♪ >> kat: he did vowed to change washington and drain the swamp, so how much has president trump changed the office and political culture in our capital two usin using? "trump has changed in ways both subtle and prof

. >>> joining us now, julie cohen she directed the smash hit documentary film rbg.here. >> good to be here. all know not under the best circumstances. >> i have to ask you, it is okay if you don't want to talk in detail, about you do you have anything you can tell us about the people close to the justice and anything about her current status? >> i did ask for an update from a close family member this afternoon who said, you know, she's -- did well, went well through the surgery and that the doctors told her afterward they have ever reason to be optimistic. optimism is a hallmark of her life. she will take everything optimistically, it served her well. >> it is not something she knew was coming for a long while. the fall in which she broke her ribs was in early november. >> that's right. >> it seems like in assessing her after that injury, that's when she recognized she had nodules that needed to be checked. she didn't go through surgery immediately. she went through three weeks. i have a colleague who was on the shuttle flight with her from dc to new york yesterday

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this is the same michael cohen who once said he would take a bullet for mr. trump. julie? miller, thank you. for more on this i'm joined by a former ethics attorney in the white house counsel's office. couple deadlines here. cohen deadline is 5 p.m. cohen deadline is midnight tonight. what are we going to learn from the court filings? >> let's start with mueller. mueller, he's indicated to the judge that he basically is withdrawing the plea deal. he is not going to recommend minimum or reduced sentencing for mr. manafort based on what he said are lies and potential new crimes committed by mr. manafort. >> julie: michael cohen has pleaded that he does not believe he deserves prison time. he has pleaded guilty. he has admitted to lying on numerous issues. and he believes he has cooperated with the special counsel. it doesn't seem that robert mueller sees it that way. a judge asked that he come up with a recommendation. what do you believe he's going to recommend? >> i think mueller is going to say he didn't cooperate to the extent he should have under the plea deal. mr. mana

. >> and in july, michael cohen's lawyer released the tape cohen secretly recorded where we hear him discuss, we hear it for our own selves with our own ears, we hear him discuss the karen mcdougal payment with then candidate trump. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that information regarding our friend david, you know, so that i'm going to do that right away. i've actually. >> give it to me. >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up. >> never happened. michael cohen is a liar. that never happened. in the next few months, trump called cohen a liar, a flipper, weak, someone who made up stories, but had very little to do with him. very little. he worked for him for ten years, more. and last night just before cohen's sentencing the president weighed in on the hush money payments to daniels and mcdougal one more time telling reuters and i quote here it, number one it wasn't a campaign contribution. if it were it, it's only civil and even if it's only civil, there's no violation based on what we did. okay? okay? based on what we did? t

cohen now says both payments were done at the direction of mr. trump, to influence the election. in julyealed cohen had taped some conversations with mr. trump, including this one of the two men discussing payments and referencing david pecker, the c.e.o. of american media. >> glor: all right, so, major is at the white house tonight. major, we are learning tonight that the president's son-in-law, jared kushner, is under consideration for chief of staff. what more do you know about that? >> reporter: well, consideration is a fluid term here. lots of things are considered. and there are some voices who say jared kushner is not under serious consideration, but he remains a key player, with powerful roles on the middle east, trade, and criminal justice reform. and any new chief of staff would have to understand how much authority he or she would exercise over kushner. so, jeff, kushner is in the mix, one way or the other. >> glor: all right, major, thank you very much. and once again, congratulations. european leaders met today in brussels, looking for a solution to an ongoing migrant crisis

the trump administration, michael cohen would, i don't say this in a bad way, he would get in your face. he was a sharply loyal counterpuncher and sometimes puncher. julie of the associated press. here, michael cohen now facing a three year prison sentence. how does the president react and number two, does it affect, you're seeing some of the attorneys in the case coming out here as well. let's listen for one second here. >> let's go. >> all right. hearing the conversation back there. sometimes we're all laughing. that's a new york moment outside of the lawyer. trying to see if they have something to say. not always pretty looking but reporters and photographers trying to do their job. one question, how does the president react and does this change here in washington? in washington, this has played out largely. democrats say michael cohen's testimony, michael cohen's guilty pleas and now going to federal prison is proof the president was the leader of this corrupt group of people. republicans say michael cohen committed these crimes, said these things about the president. who knows if they're true. what he has to do with this i'm not sure. >> only until

these decide to quote come clean he even lied to the office of the special counsel in july of this year michael cohen is no hero he is no patriot his choice time and time again was to degrade my client seek to intimidate her call her and be liars and seek to degrade the office of the presidency of the united states by seeking to buy effectively an election this is an outrage he deserves every day of the thirty six month sentence that he will serve and i will also know with great irony michael cohen well we're port to federal prison exactly one year after we filed the case on behalf of stormy daniels michael cohen was sentenced today donald trump is next thank you. so you just heard from my foot michael ave. stormy daniels why she was the. actress whose accusations began this whole story in my involving michael curran is obviously not pleased with the sentence that was handed down to mark michael cohen president trump's former lawyer and fixer and he said that he deserves every month every day of the thirty six months that he's getting and i clearly felt that he should have gotten more lots more on th

running with and that's why no one can verify it, because it's just not true. >> julie: it sounds fishy even for michael cohenthat the president has done more than enough for robert mueller, they took the time to go through with the attorney by the president sighed it took fully, thoroughly answer any and all questions the special counsel had for the president. as you write that the president is not enough? >> i don't know that he's done enough but i wouldn't let them do anything. we have to look at who this is. for politics it's fine, donald trump and say whatever he wants. when you sit down with federal investigators, if you lie to them that's a crime. and let's be realistic, donald trump has some trouble with the truth. i would never let him, if i was his lawyer, sit down and answer questions face-to-face. i do exactly what they've done, make sure the lawyers have gone through the answers, checked the eyes, cross the ts and so forth and never let him sit dow down. >> julie: the only reason he should have additional questions in addition to the questions he had time to prepare is if there's new information.

. ♪ >>> for much of his professional life michael cohen took pride in his role as donald trump's fixer and right-hand man. but in early julyd. >> i think when michael cohen starts scrubbing donald trump's personal attorney from his resumÉ, and from the plaque on his door and from his business cards, he's saying i'm on my own now. and buyer beware. >> it was a moment where michael cohen was trying to reshape his image from this loyal fixer to a guy who is ready to tell the truth. >> cohen hired a new attorney to defend him in court and another to defend him in the media. >> nbc tonight confirm as report from the "new york times" that cohen has hired attorney lanny davis, prominent democratic operative, a close clinton ally. >> washington insider lanny davis had previously represented harvey weinstein and african dictator and bill clinton's scandal-plagued white house. >> lanny davis is known for being friendly with the clintons, which is trump's arch nemesis. i mean trump we all know is obsessed with hillary clinton. so to pick someone like lanny davis to me is really a way of sticking it to trump in a very public way. >> b

july. if you look what cohen has said and what mueller has said and you put it together with other facts like the statement that was made before the senate committee when he lied about trump tower date when it ended, and there's more to it than that. if you go up on that statement, there's a whole bunch of other item that he denied being involved in, most notably that meeting that occurred in prague after manafort left the campaign. if you look at this you see as of september the first meeting he had with the mueller group he was still lying. the second meeting the memo makes clear cohen came clean on everything related to the russian involvement. >> so then the president's tweet that said that he was quote vindicated also is there any evidence to prove the president right? >> just the contrary. go ahead, jim. >> he said totally vindicated. thank you. exclamation point. he's got to tell himself these things to keep moving forward because what he's facing now isn't innuendo or opinion. there's a substantial fact pattern in place through this raft of sentencing memos we have. he wasn't even an

taking shots at each other after cohen received a three-year prison sentence for a number of crimes, including making hush money payments during the 2016 campaign. julieare reports the president is more and more consumed by the special counsel investigation. especially as former allies like michael cohen and the publisher of the national enquirer are providing evidence against him. what do you hear from your sources? >> i think it's indisputable that the president is consumed. you really don't need secret sources that you just need to look at his twitter feed. he's following the twists and turns closely. as people get caught up, he gets more agitated. i think we are announcing almost every aspect of his life, over the last several years is now under some level of investigation but his administration, campaign, and alteration and businesses. the business piece is i think the one that getting to the president the most been being president is part of his identity but being the successful businessman is all the more important to him in some ways. it's how he's defined himself and it's his children's legacy being there at the top of this business and any s

cohen. it's similar to the same stunt mueller pulled just before the president headed to his july summit with the g7 and vladimir putin. he indicted 12 russian officials to sabotage the up it. nothing has come it. it was simply a distraction. sarah sanders said the russian witch hunt is doing very unwell. it probably does undermine our relationship with russia. our next guest says he intend to shut down robert mueller's witch hunt. he rejected a plea deal and rejected allegations that he lied under oath. he filed yirm mall charges against mueller and his so-called witch hunt. "silent no more, how i became a political prisoner of mueller's witch hunt." it will become available first as an e-book on amazon. this is an extraordinary tale. you were told in effect by the mueller counsel to plead to a deal. a deal that would keep you from being prosecuted for lying to robert mueller's witch hunt attorneys. >> first of all, i came into --ing this was after 40 hours of testimony over six sessions in two months. my attorney and i began it by wanting to work voluntarily with the mueller special counsel

cohen for is to corroborate other information. remember, the guy that hasn't been talked about who has been cooperating i think since july is wisal s the chief financial officer to the trump organization. he's been cooperating with the special counsel since then. what we have now and what i found really interesting in cohen's sentencing, and i think the campaign finance issue is a side show to where i think the special counsel is going. and what they said, this is really important, they said he gave substantial information and corroboration to discreet russian activities and had contacts with the trump executive operation. if you think about that, that's a pretty small group of people. so that tells me that their focus and his focus was on that russia meeting for trump tower in moscow. it means that weiselberg will be able to confirm all of the financial transactions related to that. and you add on top of that, flynn, the special counsel has been jumping up and down about the level of cooperation. remember, he had his own russian ties going in '15 and '16. you start adding that together. i think that's the pot that's getting ready

. >> julie, the president himself, he was silent yesterday on this, despite the fact that michael cohen went after him directly and repeatedly in court. saying a number of things including that what he had done was cover up trump's dirty deeds and much more. today, the president not so sile nltd, going off on twitter, of course, and it seems kind of presenting his defense. to sum it up, he basically said, i never directed him to break the law. and he never broke the law when it came to campaign finance violations. republicans have backed the president when it came to his word against cohen's. we heard that over and over. what are they likely to do with his word against cohen's and ami's now? >> well, i think if past history is any guide, they're going to do the same thing they have been doing, which is keep defending the president, but i think that you make an important distinction between yesterday when he stayed silent and today when he felt the need to lash out on twitter and make his case publicly. because it's the case ami is now presenting the same set of facts puts him in more im

julie, jennifer, scott, thanks to all of you. a lot to digest there today. >> michael cohen said the president is lying about the russia investigation, full stop. his advice to his former boss coming up. >>> plus, the deadline to stop a government shutdown is just one week away now, with christmas coming. but there's no plan, and lawmakers in the house don't return to work until the middle of next week. >> hmm. >>> also, genera motors laying off thousands of workers. thousands. in ohio, the president says those jobs will be, quote, replaced in like two minutes. really? fact checking that ahead. at dewar's, all our whiskies are aged, blended and aged again. it's the reason our whisky is so extraordinarily smooth. dewar's. double aged for extra smoothness. going to extremes for perfect skin? where does it end? new olay whips. while not equal to cosmetic procedures, our b3 complex hydrates to smooth skin. injections? rejected. beautiful skin? accepted olay. opportunity is everywhere. like here. where you can explore the world knowing you can always find your way home. ♪ ...to g

cohen. >>> meanwhile in charlottesville, jurors have reached a verdict that james fields is guilty of driving into a crowd. julie carey is in that courtroom and monitoring. stay right here. >>> a local high school is on edge after someone posted threatening messages. flying over north point high. the principal calling the threats disturbing. school administrators work the igate.f's office to inve >>> and a group of middle school students walked to school after two schoo buses collided. after the aftermath, this is clinton. 32 studentsere on the buses. 19ent to the hospital to be checked out. none of the injuries is considered to be life threatening. >>> well, you're probably familiar with the stars system used to a rate hotel restaurants. now d.c. is using the same method to rate public schools. why it works and how critics claim it isfa . >> reporter: d.c. public school students get record cards and now t schools get them, too. it is like a yelp report. >> tools that our familie use as they make decisions abouh wh school or schools are best for their children. >> woodrow wilson high school in northwest toward t

that means if michael cohen told anybody about that attempt in 2015 by the time we get to july 2016, and that infamous trump press conference where he says, russia if you're listening -- it means that the point there had already been eight or nine months that they have known that russia wanted to engage with them. i think this changes the time line to my memory, perhaps significantly here, chuck. >> i agree. look, before i turn to the political fallout on this, i want to get from the three legal experts, do any of these -- these two memos at all, mimi, let me start with you, do they give you a sense where mueller is in his investigation? is she still in the investigatory stage? do you get any sense? could you read the tea leaves at all in here to know we're getting close to the end or stop trying to figure it out? mimi? >> i haven't actually read the memo. but based on the summary we're hearing, i think yes, mueller is still in the investigation stage, in the sense that he's still putting the pieces together. but has so much evidence i think in a way that frankly i'm not sure i even

cohen said before congress is ended in january 2016. now he said under oath, it didn't end then it ended in june -july 2016.lly think is happening is that mueller gave those questions to president trump. he was looking for those responses. there were questions about this deal. and he's probably going to compare no doubt, what president trump's answers were when these, indications ended. >>eric: why is that important? >> it's more political than legal. i think what they're arguing honestly, is that the president misled the potential voters as to the extent as to his deals in russia. what legal experts have pointed out, it's not illegal for a candidate to have a proposed business deal. which by the way, didn't go through. that's not a political soundbite. it's more political than legal, for sure. >> doug and i are both private practitioners and represent large corporations. you ask a ceo when these two medications took place, who was talking to who. all of these issues, most of them will tell you, unless their finger is right on the polls and they are involved they today in a project where there's a memorandu

cohen was having. >> after he has won the republican nomination. are you representing us or are you representing your business interests. trish: the rnc was in julythat point he had the nomination in hand. he was the leading candidate all along, if you recall. he's saying i have no business deal weather russians. i am a separate entity. nothing. he said this on the record. trish: i don't care what kind of business he had with the russians. what i do care is if he was illegally conspiring with the russians to commit a crime. and that has gotten lost. what did he say, he said-she said. >> you are looking away from the idea -- roger stone says i plead the fifth. i'm not talking. and roger stone is doing what? trish: the issue at hand is trying to figure out whether there was a crime committed. >> this is a necessary step by a legitimate hard-working prosecutor saying that's what flynn got today. whatever he got is worthy of no jail time of. trish: that's for a military and public service. i love having you. we can have a spirited debate and still be friends. >> this is the best of tv, folks. you ok there, kurt? we're about to move. karate helps... r

cohen. ari, who gets the award? >> i'm going to stick with your menu, number four, the president siding with vladimir putin about noninterference in the 2016 elections. on july 2016, he was in helsinki, and he said that he did not see why russia would have interfered in the 2016 elections. we all heard it, talk about provo bly wrong things. we heard the president say that and asked after a gasp heard around the world the president says, no, no, i meant to say wouldn't instead of would, and it was in that moment i realized that it doesn't matter. he lies with such impunity that he can make something like that up and people believe it. >> apparently, some do. but it is a dwindling group, but it's still a lot of people. tiffany cross, what was the worst? who wins the revy worst? >> off the menu and say separating children and family. what sayers me about this is, one, there are still children who are separated from their parents today as we sit here. >> and some will never be reconciled. >> it's not separation, it's kidnapping. the u.s. government kidnapped children. and i think the scary part was the first step was when he called mexicans rapists and drug deal

about knocking mueller and michael cohen out of the headlines than it was a thought-out policy, especially where he caught his own military apparatus off guard. this past julybolton said we would be there as long as the iranians are there. even if that cynicism about the president's timing is correct, was the president necessarily wrong? i hope he's right that we've defeated isis in syria, although i have my doubts, but like the president, i'd like to see us out of syria and afghanistan too. 17 years removed from 9/11, it seems to me that the fundamental question is whether we make america, america, not the world, more or less safe every time we expand our international footprint. for far too long our rote response has been to open a base every time there's a hot spot discovered somewhere in the world. that puts a target on the back of all the men and women we deploy and plays into the hands of al qaeda and isis recruitment as they argue that we are interventionalists intent on a presence on what they regard as the arabian peninsula. one other thought, although you'll never hear him say so, president trump surely knows that he's now recognizing what preside

cohen. there were some minor tweaks, though. i did want to bring to your attention. so for instance, instead of the chhess report being due by october 8th next year, it's now extended to july 31st, 2020 which gives us an extra year on working with the community on finalizing the report. and then the only other edit, which may be interesting to you is the committee that's outlined, basically the c.a.c., community advisory committee went from 7 to 15 voting members. and now there are 15 specific seats that are required for the c.a.c. however, instead of the c.a.c. being seated for three years, it's now limited to a one-year process. one thing that i did find interesting though, they did add a seat for seat 6 is to be held by a young person between the ages of 14-18 at the time of appointment. so i think it's great they are reaching out to the younger members of the community and getting them to participate. pardon me? >> [off mic] >> exactly. [ laughter ] i will forward you a copy of the legislation just for your own information, but i did want to let you know those amendments have been incorporated as part of the final product. that concludes my comments, unless you have an

cohen. it will authorize the city attorney to file a validation action regarding proposition c which passed in the november election. the board adopted a similar ordinance in july authorizing the city attorney to file a valuation action for june's proposition g. as you know, questions have been raised about whether proposition c in november and propositions c and g in june required a 50% vote to pass for a two-thirds majority. this ordinance will authorize our office to seek kay judgment that proposition c in november required only a 50% majority to pass. >> president cohen: that's great. thank you. so just as a question to you, deputy city attorney, how long does this process take before the city can expect to hopefully be able to drawdown and spend this revenue, this money? >> mr. givner: that depends on a number of factors. we expect this ordinance if it comes out of committee today as a committee report to pass finally at the december 11 meeting. after the mayor signs, the ordinance will become effective 30 days later, so probably mid-january, and at that point, we can file our validation action in court. after that window of 250itime, there's an opportunit

july and. only until his back was against the wall and he faced significant prison time to these decide to quote come clean. now michael cohen himself spoke to the judge he fought back tears as he apologized to his family apologized to the american people for not telling them the truth he said that blind loyalty have led him to cover up the dirty deeds of donald trump rather than listen to his inner voice and do the right thing he said that while he will go to jail turning himself in by agreement with the court on march sixth he will be free for the first time now free from what he described as mental incarceration something that he has endured he said ever since he began to work for donald trump in two thousand and seven. christmas and let me live for us in new york. now kimberly how can say in washington now with reaction there so kimberly what implications is this going to have for the president. well there are a couple of the implications one could be political the other could be legal in terms of the political implications certainly the president has tried to distance himself from michael cohen but the problem is that t

cohen lied about it consistently during and after the campaign. we have been reporting for weeks that efforts to do deals in russia continued until at least the republican convention in july. but november, that's new. so was giuliani's implication that some of what the president has been telling the public may not have been the whole truth. >> president is not under oath, and the president is trying to do the best he can to remember what happened back at a time when he was the busiest man in the world. i was with him most of the time, i can't remember a lot of the stuff that goes on there. but boy, same way i go under oath, then i really think about it and i really say, i can't remember that. i was wrong about who was with me on september 11th. i always thought the fire commissioner was with me in the building we were trapped in. turns out later, tommy told me i met you after. that happens when you're in the middle of difficult event sgs. >> one of the president's lawyers said the president did nothing wrong but if he did, it wasn't a crime. he said the president was trying to do business with russia far longer than he led us to believe. he said the president may have bee

cohen, which pecker loaded the idea of buying the silence of women who came forward with allegations about trump. "the new york times" reported that pecker even visited the white house as early as july 2017 to dine with the president. it isn't exactly shocking pecker allegedly directed the national inquirer to catch and kill a damaging story about mr. trump before the 2016 election. catch and kill, we've been talking about it, it means trapping a story to keep it out of the public eye. and in this case, locking it in a safe. literally, the national enquirer kept a safe containing documents on those hush money payments and other damaging stories as part of its relationship mr. trump. that revelation after several media organizations granted mr. pecker immunity. people who spoke to the ap on the condition of anonymity said the safe was a great source of power for pecker. the president spoke moments ago on fox news about cohen's sentencing. this is breaking news. let's listen. >> they put that on to embarrass me. they put those two charges on to embarrass me. either cohen or the prosecutors, in order to embarrass me, said listen, i'm making this deal for reduced time and everything els

cohen announcement. stuart: why should it? >> to the extent we don't have back in june, july, august, september when we had a leader without anyomething was going to happen, we knew in the likelihood that is going through. now it's all risk. news that before didn't bother the market is now starting to bother the market because people are sure what's going to happen whether we will have the trade deal would not trade deal would not take out. whether there is other tax bills or other things. the risk starting with the cohen announcement is a big deal. stuart: joel shulman gummi is not turned on a dime. kind of an exaggeration. you've got problems with scandals next year and investigations. and confirmation the fed will not run away with interest rates. >> otherwise i love the interest rate. generally speaking we are still positioned for upside. if we go back to 2002, which is the last time we had something like this it was down five playmate something% in january. markets rallied for 29% the following year compounded to your return was over 19%. if we have another 2002 scenario, things are okay. if it's 1981 -- 2007 maybe not so

of limitations here is five years and the cohen crimes to which he pleaded guilty were committed in 2013, 15 and 16. so you can do the math. >> bill: rudy julyn, he writes, no obstruction, now campaign finance. payments are not clearly a proper campaign contribution or expense. no responsible lawyer would charge a debatable finance violation as a crime, well, maybe those suffering from t.d.d. i assume it means trump derangement disorder. >> it is strange to hear rudy criticizing his former office. they persuaded a federal judge and the lawyers for michael cohen that the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were paid to silence the women who say they had relations with the president, which the president has denied, was either a campaign contribution or an ex spend ditour by the campaign. both of which are crimes. i think rudy should understand that. i believe that the president and rudy mock the government at their peril. that's how serious these allegations are. >> bill: what he is saying about the payments. no responsible lawyer would charge a debatable campaign violation as a crime. >> it is not debatable. the responsible lawyers saying w

julie: i'm curious what will happen to the sentencing phase. robert mueller suggested through cooperation that some of these people don't go to prison and look how it turned out for michael cohenitz's op-ed. you can react. flynn's first option is to ask the judge to throw out his questionable guilty plea but it will be difficult to do so in light of his statement at the sentencing hearing he accepts his guilty plea. his second option is to cooperate even more. there may not be much more he can say or do. the former national security officer third option, seek to recuse judge sullivan because of the judge's prejudicial statements. >> he pushed off the new sentencing hearing to march now is the new time frame. >> bill: may happen then, may not. >> we'll see what happens. general flynn had the misfortune of the fact that two of his former associates were charged in federal court two days before the hearing and essentially implicated him. we don't know where this is going to go for flynn. the one thing i will say is that flynn's team should be a warning to everyone else. don't try to litigate it through a public relations strategy designed to undermine the whole thing. it can back