benson. she is independent women's board member, nan hayworth. and washington commentary editor kim new york -- tim carney in new york city. >> i love being here. kennedy: great time of year. >> so much people surrounding the studio, that is terrifying and exhilarating. it did not seem like this is directed this administration was going in whether the president took oath of office in january of 2017. with jeff sessions being very heavy handed with criminal justice. his son-in-law, seeming to hold minority opinion, how did it shift. >> and his daughter. i think jared and ivanka were important on this issue, i think that president over course of last year, met with a number of people who made very personal appeals on this front on behalf of their relatives. i believe kanye west, and his wife kim kardashian brought a few to his attention, sometimes the personal stories president can be moved. this is a good piece of legislation, maybe some amendment that were defeated should have passed, but as a whole thissa good, 87-12, i had steve scalise today on radio show, i said if this passes,