you and the relief effort is intensifying in the aftermath of that deadly tsunami i spoke to kathy muna from the international federation of red cross she joined us from palo in the wishes monitoring recovery efforts of to indonesia's last major disaster and i asked what the situation was after this latest tragedy. i have to let the indonesian red cross deployed teams of volunteers immediately after the tsunami last night they were on the ground again this morning and had the photos that they're sharing with us show why scene of devastation something you would expect to see after a tsunami but harrowing nonetheless there there's debris everywhere there are cars that are flash there are motorcycles that are crushed how do those which are collapsed or partially collapsed there's just degree all over the place trees have fallen down and this is what we're trying to work and i can see you sounds like there's a lot of work which needs to go in for relief efforts how many aid workers have you been able to get in. yeah we're just starting there's a response we're not even twenty four hours int

because it does strengthen the hand of remainders muna one of the leading voices in the labor party for its second referendum was more or less jubilant and said see people breaks it is not inevitable because it still turn back and sort of undo it and that is something that is also of course on the other hand working against a reason may because now even more parliamentarians might feel emboldened and say this is the real alternative it is a possibility that we just forget all this and turn back and say sorry you this was just a stupid idea that michael gove the environment minister says the vote in parliament is a winnable front to resign me what do you make of his assessment. it's wishful thinking of course the tories were still trying to sort of prop up to reserve may and sort of keep her in the leadership position are have to engage in that they somehow have to spread optimism how far fetched that ever might be so it's of course it's to be expected but on the other hand count among tory tory parliamentarians who have openly declared that they would vote against the ns well above one