of the fascinating things was michael cohen saying i just believed too much in donald trump and the blind lilt to donald trump. that doesn't explain the $4 million in tax evasion that actually had nothing to do with donald trump. that was his taxi business. >> yeah, and, you know, there's this lingering question about what it is he did not want to talk to prosecutors in the southern district of new york about. and there's lingering questions that we have lots of sort of trailing ends about, but no real answers yet what exactly haefs able to tell prosecutors about donald trump and russia during the campaign. donald trump is apparently implicated in a whole lot of that stuff if open source reporting is true. we have nothing about what he was able to tell prosecutors about that. >> well, that's why we have to be patient. >> my least favorite thing. >> yeah, i know. thank you, rachel. >>> well, in the michael cohen case, donald trump has much more to worry about now than just michael cohen. trump defenders in washington including some republican senators have been saying they can't believe donald trump committed

someone who never hesitates to defend donald trump and the trump family. >> and we will make america eat again. >> as donald trump's 2016 presidential campaign gained momentum, michael cohen pursued the moscow trump tower project. after it fell through, cohen continued to fight hard for his boss showing his teeth after the first republican debate on fox news in 2016. during which megyn kelly challenged candidate trump? >> you call women you don't like fat pigs. dogs. slobs. and disgusting animals. your twitter account -- >> only rosie o'donnell. >> cohen struck back on twitter. >> he retweeted, let's gut her about megyn kelly who trump of course was critical of during the campaign. megyn kelly was upset about this, understandably so. >> it's very simple. if megyn kelly or anybody else was in his mind going after his boss, he was going to, he was going to fight back. it's the kind of lawyer that trump would want. >> during the campaign, cohen continually took on the media and one target in particular, cnn. >> you guys are down. and it makes -- >> says who? >> polls. most of the polls.

david obtained, but when david was out there and discovering that donald trump has not put any of his money into the foundation and donald trumpot made payments on all sorts of charitable promises that he made, that's the donald trump you discovered when you were writing your book about donald trump years ago. >> this is a familiar person obviously. i think the foundation is one facet of the universe of trump operations that now have drawn the attention of law enforcement officials. you know, the trump organization, the trump family, the trump inauguration, the trump transition, the trump white house, the trump foundation are all being investigated for various shades of wrongdoing. you know, even though this stuff has been known for a long time, the value of david art reporting in all this reminds us of how remarkably craven the president has been in these various walks of life that he's inhabited. you know, let's not forget that one of the events that the attorney general pointed to was an alleged fund-raiser, a purported fund-raiser that trump held in iowa in 2016 in which he had military veterans on the stage with him. he w

we had conversation about donald trump but not about politics. >> and in donald trump, goldstone admitsunities that had little to do with government. >> selfishly, i thought if donald trump is elected president, that's amazing. there's lots of favors we could ask, i would like emin to play at the inauguration, i would like to do a photo shoot with emin in the white house, those are the favor, not some random attorney that you have this bizarre information. but i managed it. >> instead of approaching the candidate directly, he decided to approach the candidate's son, donald trump jr. that's when he typed out those 138 words that would later be scrupulously examined. >> good morning. emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. the crown prosecutor of russia met with his father eras this morning and in that meeting offered to provide the trump campaign with some official documents and information. this is obviously very high level and sensitive information. but it is part of russia and its government support for mr. trump. >> goldstone now admits some of t

we had conversation about donald trump but not about politics. >> and in donald trump, goldstone admitsortunities that had little to do with government. >> selfishly, i thought if donald trump is elected president, that's amazing. there's lots of favors we could ask, i would like emin to play at the inauguration, i would like to do a photo shoot with emin in the white house, those are the favor, not some random attorney that you have this bizarre information. but i managed it. >> instead of approaching the candidate directly, he decided to approach the candidate's son, donald trump jr. that's when he typed out those 138 words that would later be scrupulously examined. >> good morning. emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. the crown prosecutor of russia met with his father eras this morning and in that meeting offered to provide the trump campaign with some official documents and information. this is obviously very high level and sensitive information. but it is part of russia and its government support for mr. trump. >> goldstone now admits some o

nancy pelosi pointed out that donald trump was lying in the room today, but she used big words, so trump didn't actually understand what she was saying, and so after nancy pelosi says, he was lying, donald trump actually says, i agree with that. here it is. >> the president is representing his cards over there are not factual. we have to have an evidence-based conversation about what does work, what money has been spent and how effective it is. this isn't -- this is about the security of our country, take an oath to protect and defend, and we don't want to have that mischaracterized by anyone. and i -- >> i agree with that. >> the mischaracterize era grizzlies with that. -- mischaracterizer agrees with that. he made the mistake of putting his terrible performance on the camera today because he believes the camera loves him and he obviously really loves the camera. but no one in that room changed anyone's minds out there in the country today. the people who support donald trump's wall and his willingness to shutdown the government, like what they heard donald trump talk about today, they

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are not chairs of the committee but what a quick fall from grace for someone so close to donald trump and donald trump can try to denigrate michael cohen as weak, as someone who betrayed him but at the end of the day it is very telling that these are the kind of individuals whom donald trump associates himself with. >> and, chuck rosenberg is still here with me. this is not the end of the road. i mean, this -- from every indication, from all of the hints, the clues that mueller has been dropping along the way in these sentencing reports, we have got a long way to go. >> i think that's right. in fact, if you just look at the thing you can't read, all of the redacted portions of the memos filed -- >> michael flynn memos. >> that's right. there's more out there. anything that's sensitive can't be public and won't include sensitive information and you are right. there's more stuff out there. may i just add one reflection? i was a prosecutor. i loved being a prosecutor and loved trials and conviction. in hollywood, only in hollywood, do you see evil defendants. in real life you see michael cohens, people r

donald trump. and so that -- michael cohen could be the sharpest contradicter of donald trump, jr. >> that's right. and remember donald trump, jr. is now the one responsible for the trump organization. so all the real estate deals that they are doing around the world where other foreign governments are trying to put money in, don junior is the one who was aware of all of that and supposed to be keeping the business afloat. so his representations he's only peripherally involved seems at odds with the role of head of the trump organizations business operations. >>> and when we come back, some republican senators are finally joining democrats to challenge president trump, and it is about saudi arabia and the assassination of journalist jamal khashoggi. if you're 65 or older, even if you're healthy, you may be at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia - a potentially serious bacterial lung disease that can disrupt your life for weeks. in severe cases, pneumococcal pneumonia can put you in the hospital. it may take weeks to recover making you miss out on the things you enjoy most. just one dose of th

donald trump. michael cohen said under oath repeatedly that donald trump was a coconspirator in his crimes. the prosecutors have now said repeatedly that donald trump was a coconspirator in michael cohen's crimes. and now michael cohen is facing substantial prison time for those same crimes. and donald trump is facing what? will donald trump be the only president in history accused by federal prosecutors of committing federal crimes who does not then face impeachment for those crimes? congress moved to impeach richard nixon when the special prosecutor described his crimes. the house of representatives moved to impeach and did in fact impeach bill clinton when the special prosecutors showed that he committed perjury in that civil case involving paula jones. and so if history means anything in the trump era, if precedent means anything in the trump era donald trump will be, must be impeached because of the crimes prosecutors say he committed in the michael cohen case. prosecutors outlined other crimes unrelated to donald trump that michael cohen committed including multiple counts of ta his ta

outside which should be at any moment now. >> one of the closest aides to businessmen donald trump, candidate donald trump. left on the outside, when he became donald trump, being sentenced to three years in prison. again, nine federal crimes he's being sentenced for eight of them, really, little or nothing to do with donald trump but personal financial crimes. the judge saying he may have taken advantage of his reputation, working for donald trump, high profile in manhattan working for donald trump for these greedy and also, lying to congress about trump tower business dealings in moscow, trying to sell a trump tower idea in moscow during the presidential campaign. that has ramifications so we'll keep our eyes on the pictures to see if michael cohen coels out. some of the attorneys here. here he is. let's see if he speaks. there you see michael cohen getting into the black car with his wife, his son and his daughter and driving off, choosing not to speak. that in and of itself, a big development in the sense that for years, for years, michael cohen threw punches for donald trump. no other way to put it.

donald trump on this. you should be asking donald trump for his answers. there is no legal impediment to donald trump providing to the press what he provided to mueller. >> yes. >> we should be looking at what donald trump says on these issues. >> all right. president trump, if you're listening, heeding his advice there. >>> will the meeting actually happen this week after a year of heat heated rhetoric? that's coming up. >>> trump's christmas decorations took a lot of heat. saturday night live defended her in its own way. >> sure, the trees look like jagged teeth in the blazing hot mouth of satan himself. if hillary won bill would have been doing the decorating so that hall would be 100% leg lamps. (vo) gopi's found a way to keep her receipts tidy, even when nothing else is. (brand vo) snap and sort your expenses with quickbooks and find, on average, $4,628 in tax savings. quickbooks. backing you. but when i started seeing i knew aboutthings,emors. i didn't know what was happening... so i kept it in. he started believing things that weren't true. i knew so

michael cohen pleaded guilty to crimes that involved donald trump, so that tweet is lying about tat. involved donald trump to the point that donald trump was named an unindicted coconspirator in the case where michael cohen pleaded guilty for the first time. and so there in that tweet is the president of the united states saying that if you give special prosecutor robert mueller information against the president, you should be punished as severely as possible. you should serve a full and complete sentence. richard nixon would not have dared say something like that publicly because richard nixon did not believe that america had lost its legal mind or that the congress had lost its legal mind. also today donald trump tweeted, bob mueller who's a much different man than people think don't want the truth, they only want lies. the truth is very bad for their mission. count 4 of article i of the articles of impeachment passed against president nixon said that president nixon should be impeached and removed from office for quote, interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the d

we have michael cohen under oath with the allegation making donald trump an unindicted coconspirator. finally donald trump's lies caught up with him, and i think on some level, there's so many bad moves to pick, that one is the worst one. >> so he took the advice and went and talked to michael cohen. ari, who gets the award? >> i'm going to stick with your menu, number four, the president siding with vladimir putin about noninterference in the 2016 elections. on july 2016, he was in helsinki, and he said that he did not see why russia would have interfered in the 2016 elections. we all heard it, talk about provo bly wrong things. we heard the president say that and asked after a gasp heard around the world the president says, no, no, i meant to say wouldn't instead of would, and it was in that moment i realized that it doesn't matter. he lies with such impunity that he can make something like that up and people believe it. >> apparently, some do. but it is a dwindling group, but it's still a lot of people. tiffany cross, what was the worst? who wins the revy worst? >> off the menu and say separating childre

introductory e-mail even that the russian government is backing donald trump as a candidate, or wants him to win. the idea that donald trump., or somebody didn't tell the candidate that, given donald trump's involvement in all these other smaller details or more specific details, i mean, it's hard to imagine that he wasn't informed. >> it would be out of character for the way that donald trump, the candidate, operated in the way that the children and the campaign team worked as well. and also today donald trump said something that i thought was very interesting. he said michael cohen handled only low-level matters. so if that's the case and we know that michael cohen handled the payoff, i don't know if the president is suggesting that there are high-level matters and bigger payoffs and michael cohen, who handled the trump tower multi-million dollar moscow deal, were there other matters with russia that involved higher-level attorneys? i don't think he wants to have it that way. i think michael cohen actually was intimately involved in donald trump's personal, political and financial worlds. >> congressman swalwell, appreci

donald trump's former personal lawyer came to a dramatic conclusion this week michael cohen was largely silent not anymore i knew what i was doing was wrong in contrast to his earlier statements cohen now says trump knew about the hush money payments he was making to two women alleged to have had affairs with trump according to cohen the payments were directed by trump in an effort to influence the outcome of the twenty sixteen presidential election nothing at the. trump organization was ever done unless it was run through mr trump he directed me to make the payments he directed me to become involved in these matters the payments were in the hundreds of thousands campaign finance law caps contribution to a campaign at twenty seven hundred dollars making the payments and the legal donation to trump denies he ever directed his former lawyer to break the law i never directed him to do anything wrong whatever he did he did on his own he's a lawyer a lawyer who represents a client is supposed to do the right thing that's what you pay them a lot of money on wednesday cohn was sentenced to three years in prison his crimes include making false statements to congress tax evasion and arranging those paymen

donald trump. more importantly, he understands donald trump fundamentally does not believe in american power in our alliances that have been established since world war ii, principal principally, the atlantic alliance of nato. he does not believe in it and donald trump and accolades like steve bannon. believe the world should be brought down to a series autocracies and should not maintain the power and alliances that nato and the atlantic alliance does and that's dangerous. >> a very specific note. this resignation by the secretary of defense comes after the trump administration for donald trump surprised everyone by announcing a complete withdrawal of our troops from syria, which for a lot of americans, may seem like a vague thing, but it's actually pretty big deal. can you explain what the repercussions could be of pulling our troops out of syria, of donald trump having declared victory over isis? >> what they could be or what they are, he's already received praise from the likes of vladimir putin and hezbollah and iran for deciding to pull troops out of syria and his assertion he's going to pull

they don't believe that any of this is of a matter, if it has to deal with donald trump making money and donald trump advancing the trump family organization. that being said, this is -- it's very clear, and john mclaughlin made this very well in his tweet, what we have here is not just the edge of blackmail. we're 2 1/2 years into blackmail here because as we see it the person who has kompromat on him, has leverage from a former kgb case officer, the person whose job was to exploit this, was the president of the united states. which means we don't know whether the nuclear posture of the united states has been compromised. we clearly see the foreign policy of the united states has been compromised on multiple levels by multiple players. you know, the way that foreign spies get their victims is through an acronym that's used in the intelligence community called mice, m-i-c-e. they get you through money, ideology, coercion or corruption or play to your ego. donald trump is an example how a can turn. >> john, here is how putin handled the public discussion of that potential kompromat. >> do you -- does

donald trump, jr. were also working to make donald trump moskow a reality. other source saying that questions have been asked on trump tower moscow. joining me now a former district attorney for the southern district of new york, and joyce vance, a former northern district attorney. what do you see as legally important for the family? >> i think you can put it into three different tran were -- tranches, ari. you've got the big unknown, which is what their role was in what we've been calling collusion. and your right to point out that michael cohen's indictment and his criminal information references his connection to trump tower. but bob mueller is not investigating trump tower moskow. he's not investigating the trump organization. he is investigating russian collusion. and there has to be a materiality component to these false statements. so they have to have influenced mueller's investigation. so the big question is how does the trump tower moskow connect with russian collusion? that sort of remains open. and then there's this issue which connects them to a

tonight there are 17 investigations of donald trump the businessman, donald trump the presidential candidate and donald trump the president. how many more will there be when the democrats take charge of the house committees that are empowered to investigate the president? the intelligence committee, the judiciary committee where impeachment proceedings begin, the ways and means committee or the coming chairman massachusetts governor neil has the authority to obtain the tax returns of donald trump? by valentine's day president trump will be probably be looking back at this christmas when he was only the subject of 17 investigations and missing those good old days. leading off our discussion now analyst for msnbc co-host and executive producer of show times the circus. ron klain is with us, and kimberley atkins, washington bureau chief for the boston herald and msnbc contributor. and kimberley, is the white house aware, are they gearing up for what is to come when all of these new investigations start in the house of representatives? are they hiring more lawyers? are they assigning a lawyer to

donald trump. >> yes, i'm supporting donald trump. i'm doing so as enthusiastically as i can. in fact, i think he's a terrible human being, but the choice on

more than any other from voters it's not who can from voters is not n beat donald trump is what kind of candidate beats donald trumpanswer. >> the person that can beat trump is somebody who doesn't try to be donald trump. you can't beat him at his own game. and shouldn't try. the democrats won the house back by ignoring the president and campaigning on policy and health care staying away from the din and kiebl news and twitter and newspaper op-ed pages pan focusing on policy to reach the voters. that's a signal to the field it has to be a person who can outtrump trump is a bad idea. >> let's say, somebody like, jake, michael bloomberg who money is not a question. you can make an argument that any of the top tier candidates money is not an issue now. there is so much money from so many different places. i can't imagine how much is going to be spent. you have a shrinking number, arguably of battle-ground states, politico report says it's only six now. you know, you have a michael bloomberg who has enough money. he can write his own checks. he has experience. he knows donald trump. he is somebody who is not playing hi

trump shares my opinions. >> at the 2016 republican national convention. michael flynn delivers an impassioned speech in support of trump. >> with donald trump in the white house, we will make america great again! >> we do not need a reckless president who believes she is above the law. >> flynn support pays off when donald trump is elected president. >> the trump transition team pushed back hard today over reports the cia concluded that russia intervened in the u.s. presidential election to help trump win. >> but amidmounting evidence that russia tampered with the election. >> it was a threat to the democracy. that's a big deal. a set of allegations the trump campaign was involved in that effort was working with the russians and the russians were sort of trying to hurt hillary clinton and help trump. >> the continuing drum beat of questions about flynn and the russians. >> michael flynn discussed sanctions with russian envoy before trump took office. >> several phone calls to russia ambassador to the united states. >> considering flynns remarkable service to the country, it begs the question. how did a military hero end up in one of the biggest national secur

that revealed something donald trump wanted if russia. donald trump wanted to build trump tower moscow. michael cohen was working on that into the general election campaign in 2016. will we, perhaps, learn something about why michael l flynn lied about conversations with russian ambassador sergey kislyak ostensibly about the lifting of sanctions? >> we very well might. i think what we'll see from this agreement is obviously we'll see kind of a description of the significance of this cooperation. the extent of its cooperation. we'll see some description of the crimes. i think the question of how much detail we'll see about the involvement of others. whether mueller makes that public in this report or whether he holds it off for a future indictment or a future guilty plea or holds it off because it's still a very live part of his investigation. and i think it's such a critical question because flynn really is at the central of kind of both threads of the mueller investigation. both the collusion side and the obstruction side. on the collusion side as yo

and everybody else that he has a lot more information regarding donald trump u donald trump's personal involvement. chris, donald trump controls everything. this is a guy two said he doesn't need a communications director. he'll be his own chief of staff. it requires a suspension of belief that everybody around this president can fall, be a victim, can plead to certain federal crimes and yet donald trump, himself, survives this. it requires a suspension of belief to see the president come through this. >> shannon, it seems to me that this dropped out of the sky. i found an offer of putin of a $50 million condo, that's a nice place to imagine living even if you are putin, it's a lot better tan living in any russian building. in addition, he's throwing these flowers at him, this incredible flattery. at the same time he's giving. an offer of this incredible gimme. what do you make of this? he's tied to money making. >> the feeling is mutual, too. we now know from the intelligence community the russians were working to help hillary clinton and help donald trump win elections. so have you t

trump. donald trump, in his heart of hearts, believes that he always wins. here is a guy who has been in new york real estate, gambling, boxing, beauty contests, television, construction, and has never been the target of a criminal investigation. that is astonishing in new york city. author,versation with peter osnos. of the defense advanced research projects agency, stephen walker, spoke with washington post columnist, david ignatius. darpa's director for the last year and before that he was the acting director and was deputy director since 2012. he has been in darpa operations for a long time. our amazing government ideas laboratory. we credit them for inventing the internet. sorry, al gore. amazing lot of technology achievements. by asking you to talk about this amazing istitution and whether it adapting enough to the way the world has changed. sense, darpa and the internet created a world in which darpa's old mission doesn't fit right, the private sector is so dominant, so quick. cutting edge science and technology is to be in the government, now it is o

donny said this was the culmination for donald trump of 30 years of dirty dealings, and he talked about the trump family as you would a crime family. >> yeah, you know, the crime family aspect of it aside, even within the real estate community, donald trump has never been a highly respected real estate operator. there are big new york families who have been involved deeply in the life of the city, both from a business level, culturally, philanthropically. that's never really been donald trump. he's been regarded as something of a bottom feeder. he blew up his business in the '90s. he left banks on the hook for r $3 million. most banks after that wouldn't deal with him. from the early '90s till the apprentice, he was skrom bling for deals in which he could get cash up front. that's what led to his biggest problems. he never managed anything inside of size other han his casino company which he drove into the ground. one of the big myths of him coming into washington was this was a businessman with an exemplary track record behind him of accomplishments and managerial prowess none of which was true

you know, this was one of the themes of the trump administration -- i mean, the trump campaign and the trump administration and also this belief that donaldl. he can only be betrayed or undermined. >> yeah. >> the buck never stops with donald trump and you're going to see that theme a lot. >> you know, gabe, i'm curious to see again how long the fox news establishment, roger aisles w -- roger ales was very good at that. rush limbaugh it was the same thing. they're coming after you, they, that amorphous they is out to get you. fox news did hire some people who still want to be journalists, right? >> yeah. >> chris wallace who often is in that pivot position of being doing conservative tv but also doing journalism, here he is again. i wonder how long this kind of thing can survive. take a listen. >> michael flynn, president says, you know, mueller says he lies. flynn said he didn't lie but what he neglects to mention is that the president fired him three weeks after he became the national security advisor. why did he fire him? for lying. so the president fired the man for lying who he's now defending against lying. >> i'm always dichotomy,

curry favor with president trump or donald trump say, hey, guess what, your old buddy, david pecker, is going to do this for you. it's hard to imagine him not telling donald trump's hard to imagine? because you heard an audiotape where he talks to the president, then-candidate trump, about this very issue. not only does it stretch all credulity, also you heard it for yourself. >> actually -- >> there was a conversation about -- go ahead. >> let me play that. i have it, it's like 30 or something seconds. let me just play that because you were just referencing this tape. let's play it. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend, david so that i'm going to do that right away. i've actually come up -- i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with -- >> what are we -- >> -- funding -- yes. and it's all the stuff, all the stuff, because you never know where that company -- never know what he's -- >> maybe he gets hit by a truck. >> correct. i'm all over there. i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time for the financing which will be -- >> what financing? >> will have to pay -- >> pay in cas

soful donald trump hls even attempted to reach over to her, i'm not sure what she would have done. but donald trumpid not reach over to shake bill clinton's hand and bill clinton looked like he was ready to shake donald trump's hand. so i'd say it's a tie between donald trump and hillary clinton. >> hmm. interesting. so sally, i want to point out this strange moment. so the president entered the national cathedral with his coat on. handed it over to a uniformed soldier. listen, i don't know how big a deal it is. it just struck me as awkward. why did he do it. >> what was he doing with his coat on? he came in a limo. he should have left the coat in the limo. he obviously has a staff. and the staff tells him what to do then he goes rogue. i can't messenger somebody isn't didn't say you know, you want to leave your coat in the car, sir. then he sort of took it off and it was like tossing it to the coat lady. this poor guy standing there clearly having no idea what to do. it was just a very awkward moment. i thought the whole front row was awkward. it was just cringe making to watch all of them togethe

donald trump. it never ends well for them. so as our on chris hayes reimagined the chance at the trump rallies for 2020, donald trump will be going saying what are we going to build? the response, aesthetically tasteful steel slats. who are going to pay for it? the net growth resulting from a mildly renegotiated trade deal. susan paige, doesn't exactly pack the same punch, and also doesn't really justify politically a government shutdown that is making less and less sense even to donald trump's strongest supporters. >> one thing that's remarkable about what mick mulvaney said yesterday on the shows is somehow calling it steel slats would convince democrats it wasn't a ball and it would be okay to support it, which it is not going to happen. if president trump could not get funding for his wall when republicans controlled the house and senate, why in the world is he going to be able to get funding for the wall when democrats take over the house? that's one reason this shutdown doesn't make much sense because his negotiating position doesn't get stronger if he waits until the new congress, his negotiating position gets weaker. demo

trump organization like donald trump jr. because his contacts with wikileaks, messaging with wikileaks by donald trump jr. also could be involved in this indictment. so the roger stone connection here, like spokes on a wheel, could be very, very far reaching. >> malcolm, talking about this in the back alleys. it sounds like dick cheney talking here, back alley stuff, but it is the world in which roger lives. he was nixon's guy. he's a smart as hell guy. he does the tricks of politics which are sometimes not so nice. >> well, you're absolutely right, but i think he may have bit off more than he can chew here. you know, bob mueller's a pretty smart guy himself and i think what he's going to do here is he is going to build a cage for roger stone to jump into and then try to lie his way out of it. and he's going to start it off with an indictment. and, you know, i think this tier of people who are going to be indicted next are going to be some very surprising characters. i believe julian assange himself and perhaps the wikileaks organization will be indicted at the exact same time. they are the bridge from the

donald trump is a liar. michael cohen is right about that. it's also the case that donald trump about everything all the time. he lies about almost everything all the time but occasionally donald trump says something that has the ring of truth to it. do you think, katy tur, that donald trump may actually be suggesting something here that is part of what is motivating michael cohen and the kind of of curious choices he made in particular not doing a full-scale cooperation with the sdny? is he trying to protect someone in his family? >> you know, i think you have to ask michael cohen that, and i think that's something you have to ask cohen also you nnokoen and you know his motivations. michael cohen has been -- he is a loyal guy. he was loyal to donald trump. and now he's trying to be very loyal to his family. he realizes that he's put them in a very bad position for a number of reasons. and he wants to keep them out of the spotlight as much as possible. does that mean he's trying to shield his father-in-law? i have no idea. but donald trump is very obviously trying to deflect as

donald trump win the presidency. and that cohen was doing this in coordination with donald trump. at's a serious allegation that they're making. >> well, that's right. and just what stands out to me, as you'll recall, donald trump told reporters on air force one that he didn't know about this. and now, according to the court documents and cohen is saying, he did this at the direction of donald trump. another piece of the puzzle here brings into focus the statement on air force one about don jr.'s meeting with the russians that the president dictated. the initial misleading statement said the meeting was approximbo adoptions. we actually came to find out it was actually about getting dirt on hillary clinton. why that matters is, now you have four examples of attempts to deceive the public. and robert mueller is saying in these documents that he looks at these lies to deceive the public as part of the obstruction probe, as efforts to limit the investigation into possible russian interference in the election. and so all of this sort of -- it's all coming together to paint this picture

trump's sex life committee health it reports. as the courtroom drama surrounding donald trump's former personal lawyer came to a dramatic conclusion this week michael cohen was largely silent not anymore i knew what i was doing was wrong in contrast to his earlier statements cohen now says trump knew about the hush money payments he was making to two women alleged to have had affairs with trump according to cohen the payments were directed by trump in an effort to influence the outcome of the twenty sixteen presidential election nothing of the trump organization was ever done unless it was run through mr trump he directed me to make the payments he directed me to become involved in these matters the payments were in the hundreds of thousands campaign finance law caps contribution to a campaign at twenty seven hundred dollars making the payments and the legal donation to trump denies he ever directed his former lawyer to break the law i never directed him to do anything wrong whatever he did he did on his own he's a lawyer a lawyer who represents a client is supposed to do the right thing that's what you pay them a lot of money on wednesday cohn was sentenced to three years in prison his crimes include making false statements to congress tax evasion and arranging those payment

trump's sex life committee health reports. as the courtroom drama surrounding donald trump's former personal lawyer came to a dramatic conclusion this week michael cohen was largely silent not anymore dying knew what i was doing was wrong in contrast to his earlier statements cohen now says trump knew about the hush money payments he was making to two women alleged to have had affairs with trump according to cohen the payments were directed by trump in an effort to influence the outcome of the twenty sixteen presidential election nothing at the trump organization was ever done unless it was run through mr trump he directed me to make the payments he directed me to become involved in these matters the payments were in the hundreds of thousands campaign finance law caps contribution to a campaign at twenty seven hundred dollars making the payments and the legal donation to trump denies he ever directed his former lawyer to break the law i never directed him to do anything wrong whatever he did he did on his own he's a lawyer a lawyer who represents a client is supposed to do the right thing that's what you pay them a lot of money on wednesday cohn was sentenced to three years in prison his crimes include making false statements to congress tax evasion and arranging those payment

first time in the history of the trump administration that tweeted something everyone who of his pr donald trump tweeted that everyone could agree on. the name donald trumpd have quotes around it. that's exactly right. the relationship between donald trump and roger stone we talked about a lot on this show. it's complicated, right? one of the things we've been trying to disentangle for a long time is after roger stone, he finally gets in the president's race, then stone is forced out of the campaign. the question for months was how much does roger talk to trump? how much are they in touch? stone would always say, from time to time. it was a thing where he could be lying because he talked to him all the time or he could be lying because he didn't talk to him at all, right? we still don't know the answer although we're starting to get there. this kind of behavior suggests that at this moment the behavior of stone following trump's instruction and taking the fifth it was a thing where he could be lying because he talked to him all the time or he could be lying because he didn't talk to him at all, right? we still don't know the answer although we're startin

here you have the united states, of course the trump administration, which has been very cosy with fossil fuel interest, they —— trump —— donald trumprly fossil fuel interests are running the trump administration. saudi arabia is driven by fossil villagers. and there is a half trillion dollar deal with exxonmobil to mind the remaining oil reserves in russia —— interests. you have three eyes conspiring, say might —— some might say colluding, to get in the way of this very important agreement. the ipcc report recommended some far reaching changes, especially in the way we use our energy. it was quite profound at the time. isn't this the report hitting up against reality. there are a couple of countries here, like saudi arabia and kuwait, there are entire economic model, arguably, is fossil fuels. there are entire economic model, arguably, is fossilfuels. right. but there are countries that have historically been fuelled by the fossil fuel industry that recognise that there is a transition under way. we are leaving the age of fossil fuels. way. we are leaving the age of fossilfuels. and way. we are leaving the age of fossil fuels. and