[laughter] david: this is the time to go into my dillon ripley story. [laughter] ken: now that was a secretary. [laughter] david: join the crowd. [laughter] ambrose, then historian, is said to have said, more americans get their history from ken burns than any other source. hmm. what do you think? ken: well, he did say it because i was there when he said it. he wrote it in a letter and some pr person grabbed it. it is a funny thing. i don't know if that's true, but if it is true -- i mean, we need to be getting our history from lots of different places. that's really clear. we have to be getting it from -- to say --loathe mainstream sources. we are beset right now by this notion of fake news, and it is, academy, andto the people now can dismiss stuff that represents years and years of scholarship, from just saying it doesn't quite jive with what they think somebody's political beliefs are. we work extra hard to not put those in our films. they cannot help, i suppose, but be there by some kind of osmosis , the selection of what we choose to focus on. we