. >>> as the government shutdown continues, we're joined by kelly mate rick, appropriations and budget reporter. what are some of the programs that are closed that are having the biggest impact on the american public? >> yes. so the irs, for example, treasury, lots of national parks, although some of those are trying to be kept open for longer. remember, there was only five of the 12 appropriations bills funding the government that were actually enacted into law before the end of 2018. so the other seven -- that's -- you know, there's homeland security, commerce, justice science, interior environment, agriculture, transportation, hud. and then there's also financial services. and then this -- you know, this homeland bill is one of the most contentious ones. this is the -- customs and border control, transportation security administration, the people who check our bags in airports. a lot of these people are being forced to work without pay right now. and the big -- the big event that we are looking to is this friday when federal workers -- epa is another big one -- are set to get a payc