you mentioned komatsu and hitachi construction.most 40% of their market value last year in part because of for seeing weakness in china. and are down again today growth outlook is not a strong some expected to be in china. we talk about caterpillar being the industrial bellwether for the u.s. to what extent are these companies also considered bellwethers in japan? dave: they are not just bellwethers for construction demand, but you look at the commodities, a lot of the equipment they provide are from mining companies. that is close to the basic fronting of the economy and basic economic activity. when you have a slow down you have lower commodity prices that hit the excavator companies where it hurts and they start to decline. investors project that. companies,japanese they are reporting this weekend investors are looking at them closely for signs of a similar attitude to had a pillar and project slowing growth -- similar attitude to caterpillar and project slowing growth. haidi: the growth of electric cards is leading to metal nee