raskin: thank you very much. i want to thank my friend and colleague for conceding the fairness of the amendment process that we adopted here today. i do hope it will be the beginning of a new era in congress where we can work together and bring in the best wrds from everybody. having said that, we still have a disagreement. and the disagreement is this. we brought forward four continuing resolutions that incorporated the language that came from republicans in the senate and were voted out on a 92-6 basis. in order to pass this. now my distinguished colleague says well maybe the republicans in the house would have felt differently about that. of course they controlled the house in the last session but they adjourned without us ever taking it up. you adjourned into christmas break and into a shutdown. so we were left with this mess when we got into power, that's why our first order of business must be to reopen the government of the united states. we've offered multiple continuing resolutions in order to do that.

congressman jamie raskin says he's relieved the shutdown is over.(congressman jamie raskin, d/md) "some people were crying that they could go back to work..."but in order to avoid a shutdown, congress will need to find a deal on border security by the february fifteenth deadline.in washington, morgan wright. (vicki) also tonight at 5:30... kron4 is always tracking local stories. here's a look at what's going on in your neighborhood right now. (grant) in the east bay... police are looking for an armed man after two u-c berkeley students were robbed. it happened just after 9:30 on sunday night. police say the students were at the basketball court at bowles hall-- between the greek theater and the cal memorial stadium. they say the man stole a laptop, two cellphones, and money. he then drove away in a car that was parked nearby. nobody was injured. police do not have a detailed description of the suspect. ... (vicki) in the south bay... police are asking the public if they recognize this man. they just released this sketch today. officers say he is wan

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. -- raskin, two minutes. mr. raskin: thank you very much, mr. chairman. 800,000 american workers, 800,000 workers in our federal work force have either been sent home and furloughed with no check, or told to report to work with no check. with no payment. i have got air traffic controllers living in my district, mr. chairman, madam speaker, who have had to take money out of their kids' 529 college funds, have had to take money out of their own retirement funds, in order to pay their family bills. there is a 10% penalty for doing that. who is going to pay them back the 10%? is the president of the united states going to do that? what about my constituents, i have tens of thousands of federal workers, what about my constituents being forced to put their mortgage on a credit card this month? who is going to pay them back? what about the dishonor and humiliation brought on our government by this? the president of the united states didn't do this to hundreds of thousands of workers in putin's russia or in hungary or the philippines. this is our people

congressman jamie raskin says he's relieved the shutdown is over.md) "some people were crying that they could go back to work..."but in order to avoid a shutdown, congress will need to find a deal on border security by the february fifteenth deadline.in washington, morgan wright. ( james ) happening today ... a group of lawmakers, from both parties, will begin efforts to avoid another government shutdown. house democrats continue to oppose the president's border wall...but hint at some sort of compromise... democrats say they are willing to spend money on technology to use at the border.. without an agreement...government funding runs out again for many agencies...on february 15th. the white house says if congress does not approve a border wall ... the president will consider other options. ( james ) coming up on the kron-4 morning news at 7... a new business venture for apple... as the company gets ready to day before showers push in late in the morning into the afternoon. skies will be partly cloudy to start with overcast skies along with our rain

representative trone, raskin, wexton, and with our good .riends secretary-treasurer thank you all for being here. standing up for the people who are working for us. people who are working for the federal government. people who are relied upon every day by millions and millions of americans. shutdown, secs regulators cannot protect retirees or investors. the fda moves that inspectors cannot keep our products safe, our national parks remain without visitor services or emergency rescues. security lines at airports are longer, causing delays of travelers. the possibility is that people will not get their refund checks. million,tely $140 average refund 2500 bucks that people are relying on and that spur our economy. about whetherried they can settle on the purchase of a home or the sale of their home. flood insurance is at risk. , as senator mcconnell said, is a failed policy. mcconnell toator pass the bills. that will open up a substantial part of government. these bills would open up all of government, but he has refused to put them on the floor. not because he does not agree, but becaus

opresentative jamie raskin of maryland is a membthe house democratic leadership team.also serves on the judiciary commite. he formally was a professor of chnstitutional law. thank you very mor joining us. you said earlier today that if this is true, it would be an impeachabloffense. how so? >> well, we know it's true because of coursthe republicans impeached bill clinton over telling one lie about one sexual affair. anthis is about organizing a whole pattern of lies in order to dceive the congress of the anited states about a matter of national securita matter that goes to the heart of american national sovereignty. so lying and obstruction of justice has figured cntrally in the impeachment that we've seen in modern times that is in thent nixon impeachnd of course in the articles of impeachment brought against clinton. so they are both articles that were brought against nixon and articles brought against cli obstruction of just tea and lying were central. so i think everybody viewshe president's involvement in lying to congress and saw borning perjury as certainly a st

i now introduce my colleague, jamie raskin . mr. raskin: our regional delegation is 100% unified against the trump shutdown of public services and lockout of federal workers throughout our region. i called for a rally tonight in downtown silver spring at the silver spring civic building at 7:00 p.m. i will be joined there at least by congresswoman jennifers weton, congressman don beyer, senator chris van hollen and others i hope will come and join us to manifest public outrage about the scandalous situation that donald trump and g.o.p. lead verse left our people in. i just want to give you -- i've been asking my constituents to send me statements about what -- about what is taking place in their work lives and personal lives because of the trump shutdown. i want to share things i have gotten over the last 24 hours with you. i'll be doing more of this tonight. but i heard from a gentleman in frederic who is a veteran, like 40% of federal workers, he's an air traffic controller, been doing it for 35 years, he and his wife have three k

former fed governor and deputy treasury secretary, sarah bloom raskin is going to join us next.e to have a hundred percent renewable energy goal. if we don't make this move we're going to have changes in our environment, and have a negative impact to hawaii's economy. ♪ verizon provided us a solution that lets us collect near real time data on our power grid. ♪ if we can create our own energy, we can take care of this beautiful place that i grew up in. ♪ >>> welcome back to "squawk alley. a fed decision just hours away joining us now from washington with more. former federal reserve board governor and former deputy u.s. treasury secretary, sarah bloom raskin she is currently a reubenstein fellow at duke law sarah, thanks for joining us today. >> happy to be here. >> a lot of expectation that we're not going to get a rate increase today, which really puts two other things squarely in focus balance sheet reduction and the path for future rate hikes to that second point, i think, let's start there, first what would you anticipate in terms of the language and the policy statement th

later, a discussion about the border -- republican shutdown with maryland congressman jamie raskin. [video clip] >> the president repeated over and over, i am not going to sign a funding bill until it adds additional border security and for some reason, half of this hill ignored it and said he is just kidding. >> these people cannot go to their fathers to cover their payment, their cost. can you? can any of you if this happened to you? ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] host: federal workers only this morning on this january 11, the 21st day of the government shutdown. it is payday for hundreds of thousands of federal workers with no pay. how is

. -- raskin, two minutes. mr. raskin: thank you very much, mr. chairman. 800,000 american workers, 800,000 workers in our federal work force have either been sent home and furloughed with no check, or told to report to work with no check. with no payment. i have got air traffic controllers living in my district, mr. chairman, madam speaker, who have had to take money out of their kids' 529 college funds, have had to take money out of their own retirement funds, in order to pay their family bills. there is a 10% penalty for doing that. who is going to pay them back the 10%? is the president of the united states going to do that? what about my constituents, i have tens of thousands of federal workers, what about my constituents being forced to put their mortgage on a credit card this month? who is going to pay them back? what about the dishonor and humiliation brought on our government by this? the president of the united states didn't do this to hundreds of thousands of workers in putin's russia or in hungary or the philippines. this is our people

and jamie raskin also join us. he will talk with the latest on the government shutdown as it enters its 21st day. be sure to watch lost -- washington journal live this morning. join the discussion. sunday, on cue and day, author and columnist james grant. >> i make my living writing about markets. much too expensive or so the people out there. i think the trouble is not so much in wall street. wall street is what it is. it's mostly an infamous name. it's evident. what we ought to be more inclined about of the institutions in the federal government that are valiantly denied in their intentions. the federal reserve, the department of the treasury. the securities and exchange commission. asse institutions set up benefactors the public and increasingly they are not so. columnist james grant, sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q and day. federal workers affected by the 20 day government shutdown held a rally outside the white house. several members of congress attended this rally including house majority leader st

later, a discussion about the border -- republican shutdown with maryland congressman jamie raskin. [video clip] >> the president repeated over and over, i am not going to sign a funding bill until it adds additional border security and for some reason, half of this hill ignored it and said he is just kidding. >> these people cannot go to their fathers to cover their payment, their cost. can you? can any of you if this happened to you? ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] host: federal workers only this morning on this january 11, the 21st day of the government shutdown. it is payday for hundreds of thousands of federal workers with no pay. how is this shutdown impacting you? if you are a furloughed employee, dial in at 202-748-8000. if you have been deemed essential, dial in at 202-748-8001. join us on twitter as well at @cspanwj or facebook.com/cspan. before we get to your calls, more from the debate in washington. here is c

raskin the experience during the twin peaks tunnel that was encouraging was the efficiency. we joked i'd be easy on you. i know you're new to the job and know with the system and the metro system in particular but this is a serious situation. it's not working well. and if our mission is to get people out of the cares and into the system, the system needs to work well and when it's not working well they ned to hear and understand why it's not working well. to me, the difference between having in central command give up control for 15 or 20 seconds to let thousands of people in the tunnel know what's going on, that's a no-brainer. let the customers know what's going on and if we need to staff that differently in add advance of the radio change, do that. i don't want to go through all the solutions, you know them better than i do, but i have to say this, it's got to get better and i'd like accountability and we need to start with communicating life -- live time in the tunnel hon -- on what's going on and what they can expect to do in an alternative situation. okay? >> yes. >> o

sarbanes, representative holmes norton, representative connelly, representative buyer, representative raskin, representative trune, representative wexton, and with our good friends, secretary treasurer of the afge, kelly and president erwin of the national federal -- federation of federal employees. thank you for being here and standing up for the people who are working for us. people who are working for the federal government. people who are relied upon every day by millions and millions and millions of americans. because of this shutdown, s.e.c. regulators can't protect retirees and investors. f.d.a. food inspectors can't keep our prodeuce safe. our national parks remain without emergency rescuers. security lines at airports are longer, causing delays of travelers. the possibility is people won't get their refund checks. approximately $140 billion average refund, $2,500, people are relying on and that spur our economy. people can't necessary -- are worried about whether they can settle on a purchase of a home or a sale of their home. flood insurance is at risk. this, as senator mcconnell s

and jamie raskin will join us to talk about the latest on the government shutdown as it enters its 21st day. washington journal" at 7:00 this morning. join the discussion. >> c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979 c-span was created as a public service by america's companies.ision today, we bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington, d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. >> president trump visited mcallen, texas to discuss border security with immigration and border officials. also participating were senators ted cruz and john cornyn and the victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrant's.

jamie raskin / -d- maryland: obstruction of justice and perjury to congress are right there in the heart of impeachment territory.trump's personal attorney rudy giuliani attacking trump's former lawyer saying, "if you believe cohen i can get you a great deal on the brooklyn bridge." the white house echoing that denial,sarah sanders, white house press secretary: i think that the president's outside counsel addressed this best and said in a statement earlier today that that's categorically false. in washington, i'm kristen holmes. (grant) and the statement by robert mueller's office tonight doesn't cite any specific errors. spokesman peter carr says, "buzzfeed's description of specific statements to the special counsel's office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding michael cohen's congressional testimony are not accurate." (catherine) the second summit between president trump and north korea's kim jong un is a go. today, the white house announced another meeting is in the planning stages...and could happen near the end of february. this comes a

congressman jamie raskin says he's relieved the over.ongressman d/md) "some people were crying that they work..."but in order to avoid a shutdown, congress will deal on border security by the february fifteenth deadline.in washington, morgan wright. (ken) (ken) some freshman democratic lawmakers made their mark today with a proposal to help prevent government shutdowns. the legislation is called "seas" or shutdown to end all shutdowns. lawmakers say the goal of the bill is to take the option of a shutdown off the table. the lawmakers say the law would require an automatic 30-day continuing resolution if congress fails to pass a full year of appropriations bills. if after 30 days congress still fails to pass a spending bill, the law would begin to impose penalties on lawmakers and the executive branch. that would include withholding pay and restricting funds for travel. (pam) and we are learning... former georgia gubernatorial ndcaate stacey abrams will deliver the democratic response to the president's state of the union address. this ro

jamie raskin / -d- maryland: obstruction of justice and perjury to congress are right there in the heart of impeachment territory.trump's personal attorney rudy giuliani attacking trump's

raskin: mr. speaker, on tuesday, the rules committee met and reported a rule, house resolution 87, providing for consideration of h.r. 790, the federal civilian workforce pay fairness act of 2019. the rule provides for consideration of the legislation under a structured rule. the rule self-executes a manager's amendment which strikes section 3 of the bill and makes technical corrections to it. the rule makes in order three amendments. it provides one hour of debate equally controlled by the chair and ranking member of the committee of oversight and government reform. it provides suspension authority through the legislative day of february 8, 2019. mr. speaker, h.r. 790 will provide for a 2.6% pay increase for federal civilian workers in 2019 beginning with the date of passage, and this brings the civilian pay increase in parity with the automatic adjustment pay for military service members which is also 2.6%. the president's f.y. 2019 budget requested a 2.6% increase for basic military members, e

. >> joining me now, democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. is that my understanding, congressman, tomorrow you're going to pass legislation for eight departments other than the dhs and basically say let's do that and cordon off the dhs question? >> well, right. what is the argument for closing down the departments of state, of agriculture, of interior, of justice, of commerce, of hud and so on? everybody agrees that they've got nothing to do with this conflict. it all comes down to homeland security. let's pass a special bill dealing with homeland security, and we can take it up again in four weeks. we'll have time to debate it. but otherwise, this looks like just a completely petulant outbreak of obstructionism by thely just trying to ruin the inauguration of the new house and everything we wanted to do. >> they were sort of spinning it that way. although i'm not quite sure i buy that. i mean, what does it matter if terms of the inauguration? you guys are going to get the gavel one way or the other. >> well, right. the whole thing makes no s

and maryland democratic congressman jamie raskin will also join us. he'll talk about the latest on the government shutdown as it enters its 21st day. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern, friday morning, join the discussion. announcer 1: tonight on c-span, president trump travels to texas to meet with order officials and argue for a border wall. then, speaker nancy pelosi's weekly briefing. federal workers protest outside the white house against the government shutdown, now in its 20th day. president trump visited mcallen, texas to discuss order security with immigration and border officials. also participating in the discussion were senators ted cruz and john cornyn and the victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. occurred on the 20th day of the government shutdown. the result of a partisan disagreement over spending $5.7 billion on a border wall.

now congressman raskin. >> forgive me because i missed your presentation, bill, but i'm here for the rest of the two hours. that's not bad for constituent service. i'm delighted to be with everybody and i don't know where steve is. there's steve. i salute you on this project and on the accomplishment of the report i've been a big fan of this idea since i first heard about it. i'll tell you what i like about it. one suggestion for a change, and then, you know, how i think we might be able to move some things forward on it, i mean n a certain sense, the house of represent tivgs and the senate are supposed to be in a sense the citizen cabinets, that is, the representative microcosm of the american people which get together to meditate and deliberate on these issues. at first blush you might think this is just duplicative, why did you need to create these exill larry citizen cabinets to do what the cross-section of citizens are already doing as contemplated by the founders. but there is one critical difference between the citizens who are drawn together as the citizen cabinet from those

and maryland democratic congressman jamie raskin will also join us. we will talk about the latest on the government shut down as it enters its 21st day. be sure to watch c-span's washington journal live on friday morning. join the discussion. >> pennsylvania's midterms included a number of special elections to fill the seats of members who left congress early. shifting district boundaries. new district names, and the addition of four women, all democrats, to a delegation that previously had been all-male. two of those women entered the house in november slightly ahead of the rest of their colleagues. representative mary kay scanlan's case included a special election represent the seventh district for the last month and a half of the 115th congress. and there was also a general election to represent the newly constituted fifth district in the 116th congress. representative scanlan was previously an attorney in private practice and had served on her local school board. and representative susan wilds race included special election to represent the 15th d

raskin and emmett flood, we have seen reports from maggie haberman and others, "new york times" and other outlets people around the white house and his team preparing for the mueller investigation and the reporter getting frustrated with rudy giuliani. i wonder why. i think reading "the new yorker" piece at the crack of dawn this morning, i have come around that he did a walk-back because they are upset about what he revealed on the sunday shows. he did his "even if it happened, it's totally cool" line with "the new yorker." i think that's an intentional plan to spill this stuff out like he did on sean hannity about the stormy daniels payment, like he did with chris cuomo about collusion. in the end when it comes out, we are familiar with parts of it. >> here is what we are talking about. this is the latest "new yorker" article. the reporters ask him about the "new york times" quote he gave in which he said, yes, the conversations about the moscow trump tower were going on up through the election. the reporter says to him, the times made that quote up? giuliani said, i don't know. i was s

and welcome to new members, raskin, more he will, shalala, and lesko. it's great to have you on this committee. you'll hear that this is an incredible committee to be on, so welcome. you know, gaveling in this meeting holds a special place for me heavy befo. before being elected to congress, i was here as a staffer. i worked for my mentor congressman joe moakley from wisconsin. he was appointed to this committee by another congressman, former speaker of the house tip o'neill. tip was on this committee as well. and i watched over the years not only what a well-functioning rules committee looked like but what using power should look like. congressman moakley, when he became chair, was asked by a reporter, now that you're on the rules committee you can settle all your old scores. and he said, that's not my style. power to some is the ability to say no. power to me is the ability to say yes. and i served on this committee for a long time. i've heard yes from time to time. but i've heard no a lot. and i think one of the things we're going to try to do, and i

raskin. >> i am delighted to be on the committee. this is my first time participating in these deliberations and it is a very tough time in my district. which borders washington, d.c., it's montgomery frederick communities. more than 80,000 federal workers, tens of thousands of people in my district have been furloughed or ordered to go to work in they are not being paid. there texting me and e-mailing copies of their paycheck which they goes pay a 0, net pay 0. see you on monday. and back to work and starting over again. that they just have to get used to this in a way of doing business in the united states of america. they haven't closed the russian government, the hungarian government, it's only the united states of america where the chief executive closes the government serving his own people. astounding situation. i am hearing from air traffic controller in my district who are putting their mortgage on a credit card, one guy told me he is having to borrow from his daughters 529 college plan with a 10% penalty. who is going to pa

jamie raskin, democrat of maryland said we don't know if it's true of course but already people are sayingtter of the gravest urgency. david's sister - - this is the most serious threat to the trump presidency we've seen so far. should your members be more cautious. it almost seemed in this rest to judgment as if there's a lot of house democrats that want to impeach the president. >> chris, when you preface your statement with, if this is true. that to me, it gives you all the cover you need. and i would say that. if it is true. if they had said something as if it were true, then that would be one thing to be concerned about. but they've all said, if this is true. there are a lot of things i hear daily. if it were true i would be concerned. sometimes you preface with that and sometimes you don't say anything. i don't think my democratic friends in any way are rushing to judgment because they qualified it right up front. if this is true. >>chris: all right, this weekend of course is martin luther king weekend. you will be speaking tomorrow in the state capital in columbia in observance of d

raskin and emmett flood, we have seen reports from maggie haberman and others, "new york times" and other people around the white house and his team preparing for the mueller investigation and the reporter getting frustrated with rudy giuliani. i wonder why. i think reading "the new yorker" piece at the crack of dawn this morning, i have come around that he did a walk-back because they are upset about what he revealed on the sunday shows. he did his

learn now he shared it with the president's lawyers, even holding discussions with jay seculo and the raskins about this. a discussion about defense strategy yet now he's sitting in a confirmation hearing to oversee the very investigation in which he discussed a defense strategy. is there a conflict of interest there? >> i don't know. it raises questions and i'm sure members of the senate judiciary committee are going to probe into this. it is unusual. not something you normally see before an appointment to be attorney general of the united states. of course at the time there was nothing inappropriate about sharing that kind of information, sharing his own personal views to members of the trump team. but obviously it has created challenges that mr. barr will have to navigate in the hearing. >> you said it raises questions. what questions does it raise for you? >> the question would be whether or not he has prejudged certain aspects of the mueller investigation, the validity, the power, the scope of the investigation and whether or not it creates an appearance of prejudgment calls into questio

the raskins and the jay seck lows. and even if he didn't give them the piece of paper he certainly discussed what was in it. and i think the president knew. he recalled today the president actually at one point had tried to hire him as his personal counsel, they had a meeting. and the president raised what do you think of mueller, and at that meeting he said, i said he's a straight shooter and he should be dealt with as such. and the president asked him about mueller's integrity. so we know he didn't hire him because he thought mueller was a good guy and straight shooter. there had to be another reason. well, the reason was this memo which said that one particular case of obstruction was a case that mueller should not make, and it wouldn't stand up and he went into great detail on it, which i think would please the president. >> i also want to bring in senior former justice department carrie -- i'm wondering overall what you made? >> so a couple of things. first i thought that he conveyed he's going to bring back regul

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theoke with jamie raskin, representative from maryland. he represents a lot of federal workers. he says he has constituents who are missing their mortgage payments this month. who are tapping into their kids college funds. to try to make all of their monthly payments. it really is becoming a big issue. i spoke with a federal worker at the international trade commission. is said what her office does review the intellectual property abroadnts of companies that are stealing u.s. companies intellectual property. they are not doing that right now. this is one of the presidents priorities that is not being fulfilled. because the government shutdown. david: we focused properly on the federal workers because they are having a tough time. it goes beyond that. the fda shutting down, we will not be able to get data out to farmers to plant. our people on capitol hill, members of the house and the senate, are they starting to hear from their constituents that their world is being disrupted by this? anna: to a certain extent, yes. they say their constituents are telling -- are recommending a

in addition to marty and jane raskin as well as jay sekulow. so william barr disclosing this in a letter today to lindsey graham, but no doubt, this letter will give broad ammunition to democrats. they are all ready to bounce on william barr at this hearing tomorrow and likely ask how impartial can william barr be given the fact he distributed this letter to lawyers very close to the president? was he trying to win favor for the president from the president, himself? we know that william barr has discussed the fact that he wrote this memo with the president, preparing him for the fact it would come up in these confirmation hearings. no doubt with this recent revelation just in a few minutes that he sent this to a rash of the president's lawyers, democrats will probably pounce on it. also in this letter, as william barr has been stressing, he says that his conclusion that the president couldn't be put into an obstruction of justice probe, he said that that was narrow in scope. that he didn't mean that the president could never be inquired upon f

so let's talk about this now with congressman jamie raskin, maryland democrat who is member of the housemittee. so good to have you on. >> thanks for having me. >> what do you think about this? michael cohen saying he's worried of death threats to his family from rudy giuliani and the president. number one, do you think he should be worried? >> well, witness tampering is a crime, and obstruction of justice is a crime, and witness intimidation is a crime. so this is well known, of course, in mafia circles. we know that it's not invented out of thin air at the very least because the president has been tweeting out, insinuating statements about michael cohen's father-in-law and about michael cohen's wife. it's a sign of how far we've fallen because of the president's spectacular hatred for the rule of law that we would even think it's a normal thing for a president to be trying to interfere with a federal witness or someone who is coming to testify before congress. it's extraordinary. >> let me get it very clearly here because i asked in my open, is this witness intimidation? >> well, we do

rass conditions, two minutes. -- raskin, two minutes. mr. raskin: thank you very much, mr. chairman. 800,000 american workers, 800,000 workers in our federal work force have either been sent home and furloughed with no check, or told to report to work with no check. with no payment. i have got air traffic controllers living in my district, mr. chairman, madam speaker, who have had to take money out of their kids' 529 college funds, have had to take money out of their own retirement funds, in order to pay their family bills. there is a 10% penalty for doing that. who is going to pay them back the 10%? is the president of the united states going to do that? what about my constituents, i have tens of thousands of federal workers, what about my constituents being forced to put their mortgage on a credit card this month? who is going to pay them back? what about the dishonor and humiliation brought on our government by this? the president of the united states didn't do this to hundreds of thousands of workers in putin's russia or in hungary or the philippines. this is our people

jamie raskin, democrat of maryland said "we don't know if it's true, of course, but already people ofare saying this is the matter of the greatest urgency. " david selena, congressman from rhode island, if true, this is i think the most serious threat to the trump presidency that we've seen so far. should your members be more cautious, because it almost seemed in this rush to judgment as if there were a lot of house democrats that want to impeach the president. >> congressman clyburn: chris, when you preface her statement with if this is true, that, to me, gives you all the cover you need. and i would say that. if it is true -- if they had said something as if it were true then that would be one thing to be concerned about but they've all said if this is true. there are a lot of things that i hear daily. if it were true i would be concerned about appearing sometimes he would preface it with that and sometimes you just don't say anything. so i don't think that my democratic friends in any way rushing to judgment because the qualified rather upfront, if this is true. >> chris: all right