bob mueller. i'm also joined by former federal prosecutor gene rosy and melissa murray, a law professor at nyu. thanks to each of you. on the mueller piece, each of you are legal experts in various ways, but on the mueller piece, john, what would bob mueller want to know from this person who plays a spokesperson role? would she have the juice on anything else? >> well, i think you need to ask and expect them to thoroughly and diligently investigate the facts as they have to ask her, often the person in that role is privy to conversations with the principles inside the white house. so it's an opportunity to learn what did she know before she made certain public statements that might appear to be designed to influence people outside of the white house and explore what the basis was for those statements. >> interesting when you put it like that. let's take a look, then, a some of what she was saying about all of this controversy. >> the statement that don jr. issued is true. there's no inaccuracy in the statement. he certainly didn't dictate. >> the outside counsel did weigh in saying yes, the pres