senator hoeven: district is laredo, part of san antonio, down to laredo, they have a lot of local issues. they have ranchers. they have, you know, flooding. they have a lot of things that they have to contend with. they have local issues. we have to recognize that. so part of the discussion today . s talking with the experts ok. it's not going to be one size fits all. it's a border barrier. you work with the locals and get something that works that provides that barrier, that protection, but also addresses local concerns. i hope that helps bridge the gap to get to a good solution here out of our appropriations conference committee. so again one size does not fit all. we are trying to come up with a good solution and we heard from the experts today on how they're working very hard to do that. i hope that brings us together. number one. the other thing is, it was very clear, as our chairman said, it's a three-legged stool. yes, you need technology. yes, you need personnel. you also have to have border barrier. here's one of the examples that one of the professionals gave us that i thought

laredo is mostly hispanic. to see the pride and the deep is a joym side by side i which the country could behold, the patriotism of the people who live at the border, which we consider a community with a border going through it. what the president is saying about the border is mythology, not reality. thinker you may think, about the constitution of the united states. our colleagues have talked about believing that our members were doing this. i know that they will. i know that our republican colleagues care about the constitution. i know that they believe in the separation of power. i know they would not want a president, republican or democrat, to usurp the powers of whichstitution we serve we all serve, as part of the separation of powers, the checks and the senate as well. i think all of my colleagues for , and the leadership of chairman castro -- do you still have a beard? [laughter] is an historic moment for our country. a civics lesson and thee constitution contained therein. the guardian of the gate of o

multi-day observance of what our founding father and mother presented to our country, to see 96% of laredo was hispanic, to see the pride of heritage and the deep hatred -- patriotism side-by-side, strengthening each other. it is a joy i wish the entire country could be -- could be held. patriotism of the people who live at the border which we consider a community with a border going through it. -- it is notdent reality. this is not about the wall, whatever you might think about the wall. think about the constitution of the united states. our colleagues have talked about ilieving that our members -- know they will. i know that their colleagues call about -- care about the constitution of the united states, i know they believe in the separation of power, i know that they would not want a president, republican or democrat, to usurp their powers of the institution of which we serve. i know we are committed to strengthening this congress of the united states which is the institution in which we all serve as part of the separation of powers, the checks and balances, the strength that we all bri

those x-ray portals, we have them in laredo. they work. you can get an 18-wheeler, by the way, laredo handles 15,000 trailers a day. 15,000 trailers a day. and therefore, we need the latest technology that the commissioner talked about. it works. i've seen it. but, we need to have it in other places. you want to stop people that come in and stay here? in 2000, how many people do we have, border patrol stopped 1.6 million individuals. last year, it was 398,000. so, it's about a quarter of the people that were coming in. and, 67% of the people that are here illegally came in through legal visas, overstays. by the way, most of them were canadians. i'm not saying to put a wall in the northern part of the nation, but -- [laughter] but i'm just saying, you have to look at where people are coming in. natural borders, allow me to show a little -- and i know this is not usual. but, let me show you. in texas, texas has 1,200 out of the 1,954 miles with u.s. and mexico. we have, for example, what they call in west texas, god's wall. 200 feet, 300 fee

the district of laredo, they have a lot of local issues. -- they have ranchers, flooding, a lot of things they have to contend with. we have to recognize the local issues. part of the discussion today was talking with the experts. it is not going to be one-size-fits-all. it's a border barrier where you work with the locals and get something that works, that provides that protection, but also addresses local concerns. i hope that helps us bridge the gap between republicans and democrats and get to a good solution here out of our appropriations committee. one size does not fit all. we are trying to come up with a good solution, and we heard from the experts today on how they are working very hard to do that. i hope that brings us together. the other thing is, it was very clear as the chairman said, is a three-legged stool. technology and personnel, but you also have to have border barrier. thats one of the examples one of the professionals gave us. something we can all relate to. you now have you have the new camera where you put in the doorbell? somebody comes to the front door, and whethe

all of california is a border represents laredo and surrounding areas in texas. and he showed the border. many places on the border, there are cliffs, there is a river, are 600 miles of something. are -- 300 miles of this. so that cars can't go by. if the president wants to call that a wall, he can call it a wall. he keeps referencing that we are to have almost 700 miles a wall. again, is a place with enhanced fencing, normandy fencing. let them have the discussion, because it is all about two analysis.cost-benefit what is the best way, what you get for your dollar in order to protect the border? about, and this will be coming up if he takes some extra dinner action, the opportunity cost -- if he takes some extraordinary action, the opportunity cost of the money. if the money can be used to better for technology, then let us see. and by the way, when some of these fences were built, the technology was not what it is today. so you have to look at technology in a new form, just as we say that should we all just get land lines in our home, we have smart phones. well

some say they may go little to the east toward nuevo laredo which is across from laredo texas. it poses a little more of a cartel risk. so it looks like most will go -- they were picked up by interpol, they would not tell us what they were wanted for exactly what they were arrested with corporation or mexican federal police and are in the process of being extradited back to honduras. john? jon: thank you. the embattled democrat of virginia, ralph northam. after a racist picture surfaces. another asking for him to close down. >> we were closely together we were did so many things working together but picture with blackface in the klansman cannot, there's no way you can continue to be the governor of the commonwealth of virginia. he will do the right thing for the commonwealth of virginia. he will put virginia first. and i think it will happen relatively soon. jon: garrett tenney has elitist from washington.reporter: despite what is said the governor says he has no plans to resign and instead, he plans to try and use the incident to spark a larger conversation about racial injust

i wish you could all go to laredo for the week of the birthday of george washington and honor george washington and martha washington, so patriotic. that concerns me more than what may or may not be said now. when the facts are known, we'll make a judgment then. i'm also concerned about what the president is doing, what's happening in terms of climate change and our public policy arena that he's still in denial. i'm concerned about his heaping praise on a tax bill that gives 83% of the benefits to the top 1% and ignores the needs of people as we write budgets. i'm more concerned abhis policy than his personality. however, when he facts are known, then we can make a judgment. do you e gun bill, what think -- do you think you can get 60 votes in the senate and if they cannot advance in the senate, what would you say they've achieved? ms. pelosi: these bills are bipartisan, especially the one yesterday that was the heart of the matter. you know the one that we had worked so hard on for such a long time today that is an important continuation of that you heard me say it over and over, pu

is about three or four times more dangerous than laredo, my hometown. he knows it's not an emergency. he's using the threat as leverage to get a wall. he's not going to get that 14th century solution called the wall. it's a false -- chris: okay. let's get off the politics, both of you, and let's talk about the merits of the issue. and i've got some statistics here. first of all, let's talk about the effectiveness of physical barriers. when they were put up in the yuma, arizona, sector, arrests for illegal crossings fell 94% in three years from 138,000 to 8,000. when barriers went up in san diego, arrests fell 80% in seven years from over half a million to 100,000. congressman cuellar, you voted for fencing in an appropriations bill last year, $1.3 billion for fencing, so why all this resistance to physical barriers now? >> well, let's look at the effectiveness and the cost effectiveness of a wall -- chris: you keep talking about a wall -- >> no, no, no, no, no, let me -- chris: talk about barrier withs rather than a wall. >> okay. okay. let's call it a

>> senator hoeven: i have been to laredo with congressman cuellar. and i think we can get to a solution but we are going to have to have all three in a way that we can agree on. i'm certainly willing to fund personnel and technology, with got to have some money for barrier as well. >> chris: are you willing to do all of those things, congressman? >> representative cuellar: while i certainly want to sit down with the senator and other members because i feel that if we don't gethis out. appropriators art -- as you know in washington there's republicand the senate. we can work out a deal. i know we can sit down and work it if we just don't get any outside pressure, do what we need to do and i feel that the process as appropriators, house and senate democrats, republicans, we can work something out. i feel confident. by the way, the deadline is february 15th. if we have to do something, our committee probably has to do something by this coming friday because then you got to print it out and then you've got to lay out the bills in the house and the senate

we're not right on the border like laredo or brownsville, and i think that's been one of our benefits from a standpoint of people coming from mexico to shop. they want to go to an all-american city. o'brien: so you have a fair amount of tourism coming in from mexico--from mexicans who want to shop here, and then they go back home? darling: yeah. we were--until about 2 or 3 years ago, we were the number one sales tax collector in the state of texas and about 20 times higher than the american average. o'brien: so how does it work? explain to me sort of the dynamics of the border for folks in mcallen. darling: one of the things, we own a couple of international bridges, so we have about 8,000 people who come across every day walking and doing business and shopping and owning shops and working, et cetera, and so we're very close to what happens in mexico. i would say what happens there happens to us a lot on the border. o'brien: what does washington get wrong about the border? darling: oh, i think--well, i think the rest of the nation does for one thing. i mean, they just don't understand

where she's meeting with border state officials and will get a tour of a key border crossing point in laredos governor abbott will attend a special celebration on saturday in laredo that highlights relations between mexico and the united states. >>> the house resolution to stop the president's national emergency declaration was authored by texas democratic congressman joaquin castro. he's joining us from san antonio. sir, thanks for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> how many at this point -- i know the number is growing -- how many co-sponsors do you have, and do you have republicans? >> yeah, we have the last i saw about 227, 228. we have one republican so far, justin amosh of michigan. my staff is reaching out to republican offices for days now. i'm going to be making calls between now and the vote. if you look at how we approach this, we tried to approach it in a very bipartisan way by emphasizing the fact that the president is really making a constitutional power grab and trying to take away the power of congress, the power of the purse of congress, and usurping that for hims

fronteriza de lo que le llaman ellos " el circuito del rÍo eagle pass y hasta web, en el condado de laredoades federales y estatales colaboran para evitar que se salgan de control los inmigrantes y las camisetas del titulo nacional de inmigraciÓn que antes servÍa para trasladar a los detenidos hoy funcionan como transporte para llevarlos a comprar alimentos. debido a que estÁn aislados y por el fuerte dispositivo de seguridad, tanto del gobierno mexicano, como el de los estados unidos, d local para se trasladados hacia la ciudad de mÉxico. y posteriormente hacia sus paÍses de origen. en la frontera piedras negras, coahuila, alejandro madrigal, univisiÓn.de una frontera a otra. la ayuda humanitaria enviada por los estados unidos a venezuela continÚa atorada en la frutera con colombia el rÉgimen de nicolÁs maduro insiste en bloquear la entrada de esta ayuda y ha desplegado soldados en la lÍnea divisoria entre los dos paÍses. entretanto, el gobierno de donald trump dijo que no usara la fuerza para garantizar la entrada de la ayuda. desde colombia, tenemos un reportaje reportero: aunque la ayu

nancy pelosi visited laredo texas, saying there is no emergency and that the declaration violates thenstitution. >> the wall is not effective. it's very expensive. it's nothing more than a campaign for the president in one of his speeches. it has no merit in terms of effectiveness, cost effectiveness and does not support the values of our >> reporter: . >> reporter: the troops will help shanahan and dunford to determine how much money will be allocated from the military's construction fund. in that letter to the department of defense, dhs requested, quote, fencing, while the dod uses the term barrier. none of the officials use the term wall. eric: still, it's supposedly a steel barrier. jeff, thank you. arthel. arthel: a teachers strike in oakland, california continuing into the weekend. nearly all of the district's 2300 teachers walked out on thursday. they're demanding a 12% pay increase while the district has raised its offer to 8.5. leaders say they will resume talks tomorrow. separately, teachers west virginia, los angeles and denver schools have staged strikes over pay, class si

is about three or four times more dangerous than laredo, my hometown. >> reporter: ahead of tuesday's state of the union address, the president blasted house speaker people like nancy pelosi, who don't want to give proper border security for political reasons, she's doing a terrible disservice to our country. she can keepgames, but we will win. >> reporter: lawmakers not optimistic a deal can be reached. >> as long as the speaker and the president are way at odds, the chances of us reaching agreement are slim. >> reporter: president trump plans to use his state of the union to push his agenda and jump start his re-election bid. jennifer johnson, nbc news, washington. >>> power has been restored to a brooklyn jail after inmates spent several days in below-freezing temperatures. dozens of people gathered outside the metropolitan detention center protesting the conditions of more than 1,600 inmates after the jail lost power nearly a week ago. here with details is jose diaz-balart. >> brooklyn federal jail crying out for help. their desperation caused by what some say are convicted of cri

a rush at the texas border forced brief closure of the laredo part. this is this week. this is what we're ignoring. this is not what we're doing for the american people while we engage in this charade. this is not what the american people sent us here to do. that is embarrassment for our country. i talked to my beautiful wife back in texas just before the hearing. i said, don't bother watching. she said, as i roughly expected, don't worry, i won't. i have more important things to do. and she like the rest of the american people have a hell of a lot more important things to do than to watch this. i said, amen, darling. i can't help but think that's the majority of the american people think watching this circus. i yield back. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i've got a lot to do, as well. i've got houses and schools to help rebuild in the virgin islands. expansion of voting rights, educational opportunities. criminal justice reform. thank god the democratic majority can walk and chew gum at the same time so we're here with you right now. mr. cohen, you learned well in the ten

house, we are working on we are asking border patrol agents right now to go down to the river in laredo and the rio grande valley, often times they are down in the river, you have an agent down by himself, it's dark, you cannot see the river because of the cane, you cannot drive laterally because there's no road there and you don't have a physical barrier to funnel people who are coming illegally. some people coming illegally wish us no harm. some do. are ms 13 and who gang members. any rancher who doesn't agree, we should work with and figure out proper property rights. a fair market value and do it with minimal impact, allow farmers to have access to the river and rio grande valley. we just need to do our job to secure the border so that migrants are safe and american citizens are safe. host: from columbus station, ohio. ed, good morning. caller: this is not rocket science. president trump -- i'm a conservative. sat on his hands, president trump won the primaries against every other republican on securing the border. i was 30 years in the military. this will get pushed around by the l

they are considering laredo. but they will hit there by tuesday, the day of president trump's state of the union. arthel: calls for virginia governor ralph northam's governor to step down. the democratic leader denying he's either person in the picture and refusing to resign. >> i did not purchase the yearbook and i was unaware of what was on my page. when i was confronted with the i amables yesterday, i was appalled that they appeared on my page. but i believe then and now that i am not either of the people in that photo. arthel: garrett tenney is live in richmond, virginia with the latest. >> the problem with that explanation is 24 hours earlier he claimed responsibility for that picture. this explanation as to why this story changed has not done a whole lot to end the calls for his resignation. >> last night i finally had a chance to sit down and look at the photograph in detail. it's definitely not me. i can tell by look at it. i have had friend look at it and tell me it's not me. i have also had a classmate

they could get to nuevo laredo, that's more dangerous, cartel area.ng to cross like this migrant, antonio of el salvador. >> the borders are secure but -- if you don't risk anything, you won't gain anything, right? >> now, heather, we can tell you that the migrants will be met by the u.s. military, the pentagon announcing over the weekend that they will send 4,000 troops on the border and later today we will try and speak to the governor here in coahuila to find out exactly what he meant by government borders to carry out what those were. we know they are on their way, another on thursday and another 16. >> clearly the message they are getting right now to the folks they are speaking to right now, they know they can cross the border illegally. that really is remarkable. some people need to start listening to your reports, griff, thank you. well, president trump calling out speaker pelosi for her hard stance against border wall. >> she was varying id which i would expect but i think she's very bad for our country, she knows that you need a barrier, she

know they are going across from eagle pass and then it is across from laredo texas it is more of a cartel so it looks like they will risk getting there monday or tuesday but they will not be here but then what we encountered over the past three weeks and then enter pole officials will see if they are wanted and then arrested with the cooperation of mexican and federal police and then to be extradited back to honduras. jon: 12 days to go until another potential government shutdown avoiding it could shutdown the success or failure of a select group of 17 lawmakers. they could decide the fate of president trump's request for a border wall. we take a peek behind the legislative curtain. >> it is called a conference committee a bipartisan bicameral that is selected to serve because of their expertise in a given issue the house and senate approved similar yet divergent versions of legislation they have to work out the differences that is up to the conference committee in the purest form it is an open wide ranging debate between the 2010 conference committee dodd/frank reform legislation in a co

on friday in laredo, texas, nancy pelosi says congress has constitutional responsibility. >> we will be fighting him on this usurping of power, violating the constitution of the united states and congress and the courts and with the american people. this is the path i would not recommend we go down. leland: the legislation is expected to sail through the democratic controlled house and the senate will be more of a challenge. democrats need four republicans to support it. only two, so they may vote for. a handful of others expressed concern over the president that this use of emergency power could set. donald trump was confident republicans will support and even if they don't, there is no way he could sign it. >> everybody knows we need border security, we need a wall. it is a bad subject for the democrats. we need a wall. will i veto it? 100%. 100%. i don't think -- we have too many smart people that want border security so i can't imagine it will survive. i will veto it yes. leland: it would be the first veto in the administration and not a lot of optimism congress combustor of the

border secure and that is what the president said he would do and he has a responsibility -- >> in laredo had to close the port of entry bridge due to a migrant wave attempting to cross. sources told me more than 12,000 illegal crossings already this year. the resolution passing in the house will go to the senate next where some republicans are supporting it. north carolina senator santos wrote this in an op-ed in the washington post, as u.s. senate i cannot justify providing executive with more ways to bypass congress. as a conservative i cannot endorse the president that i know first future left-wing presidents will inflate to advance radical policies, eroding economic and individual freedoms. mike pence is likely going to try to meet with republican senators today to work on this but even if it passes the senate donald trump has indicated he will use his first veto. heather: thank you. take a look at. and ice tsunami sparing evacuations on lake erie, massive ice chunks pushing against the niagara river parkway in canada forcing parts of the road to close. on the new york side ice mount

nancy pelosi was in laredo saying the president is abusing his office and disrespecting the presidencyy declaring this national emergency. she decided to put this resolution on the floor. what does it say to you when it comes to getting something done on this issue? >> they are clear not interested in getting anything done. this is a show vote. it does not mean anything. except we get to put people on the record, which i appreciate. in 2020 when we go to re-elect president trump we'll be re-electing republicans and democrats. people who vote on the wrong side of this issue are going to be, you know, in danger when it comes to 2020. i'm excited abouting this vote. i want to see republicans, if there are any. and i want to see the democrats put their money where their mouth is. katie: we got news from the robert mueller investigation. they had a sentencing memo for manafort. katrina, what does this have to do with the president's strategy moving forward the robert mueller investigation doesn't end anytime soon before 2020. >> the president stated and many of us agree this is essentially

texas border as they go to monterey or two cities already mentioned to us, they will cross in the laredowest they will end up on a path towards tijuana. we have to talk about the numbers. this group which was almost 3000 according to officials yesterday, you have to add in this caravan plus 12,600 migrants who accepted mexico's fast-track temporary asylum to get their official id card and they will move north toward the us border and the caravans we know about on social media beginning february 7th, and february 16th. at those numbers up, 3000 migrant still in tijuana from last october's caravan, 15-20,000 migrants, that is a lot of people. we have to address why we have this magnet of central american caravans coming, it is because of the open arms and pro-immigrant stands of the current president. heather: we will talk with an angel mom who is taking into her own hands to get the border wall built. roger stone is heading back to court as he denies having knowledge of russian collusion. donald trump's longtime associate is accused of lying to congress, obstruction of justice and witness

. >> reporter: in laredo, texas, cvp officials had to close a port of entry bridge due to a migrant wavepting to cross. sources tell me they had 12,000 illegal crossings. of the resolution passes the house, it will go to the senate where some republicans are supporting it. tom tillis writing this in an op-ed in the washington post, the us senator, i cannot justify providing the executive with more ways to bypass progress. as conservative i cannot indoor the president future left-wing presidents will exploit to advance radical policies. they we wrote economic and individual freedoms. even if this resolution passes the house and senate, donald trump already indicating he is prepared to issue his first veto. this is going to get more dramatic. rob: whether news was the man accused of murdering his brother's family setting his house on fire allegedly for money. the grand jury inviting him for murder, arson and weapons charges. prosecutors say he killed his brother's entire family and set both their new jersey homes on fire to make it seem like the family as a whole was being targeted. court

look at the map, you can see that piedras negras the focal point and some migrants going to nuevo laredoa little more dangerous because of drug cartel in the area. migrants intend to get up in the line as they say and cross illegally like antonio from el salvador, listen. >> they say the borders are really secured, right, we need to get into the states. if you don't risk anything, you don't gain anything, right? >> and over the weekend the pentagon announcing nearly 4,000 troops to the border, one thing is for sure, jillian and rob, that's the message is very clear, the mexican government is sending future caravans, one thursday starting in honduras and another next one on the 16th and the message will help you get southern border to northern border. jillian: interesting, thanks, griff. rob: president trump calling out speaker pelosi for stance against a border wall. >> she was very rigid. she knows that she wanted border security. rob: can't strike a spending bill for border. >> just over 10 days until the government runs out of money again, lawmakers aren't still dealing on border secu

them told us they are headed -- we will find out, they will cross probably at eagle pass, texas or laredot but we are hearing about 5:00 am departure in the central time zone. looks at the numbers, that is the story, the influx of caravan numbers. this is the caravan of started january 15th. it is roughly 2825 according to mexican officials. if you had that 12,600 migrants that accepted the fast-track temporary asylum given by the mexican government which was stopped, they are on the southern border working north as they get their papers and official id cards. two new caravans we are aware of on february 7th, february 16th, tremendous number of people, 15,000 plus not to mention you still have 2 or 3000 from last october in tijuana. a lot of folks will work their way north. you have to ask these migrants why there are so many? they all say because mexico is more open arms than they have been in the past. the president extending welcome to these migrants as they work their way north but you hear the president deployed new troops to the southern border, looks like this group by all accounts

the border crime rate is a lot lower and i'll take my home town of laredo.ou compare to washington d.c., it's more dangerous in washington two or three or four times more dangerous here. the crisis is not at the border. stums i think it's dealing with our president, all due respect to hum. >> what do you imagine are the next steps if the president does invoke this legal authority many think is a dubious constitutionality? >> it's certainly dubious. i think the supreme court has we've already talked about whether the president can declare a emergency. they'll say if there's an emergency, maybe he should have called it months agobut he coops waiting and tries to use it as a leverage. he didn't get the money on the wall he wanted. he didn't even get that close so now he wants to use that because he's obsessed at this 13th century called a wall. >> what do you think the -- i want to read concern from susan collins, republican in the senate who says this. declaring a national emergency would be a mistake on the part of a president. i don't believe the act constit

laredo is mostly hispanic. to see the pride and the deep is a joym side by side i which the country could behold, the patriotism of the people who live at the border, which we consider a community with a border going through it. what the president is saying about the border is mythology, not reality. thinker you may think, about the constitution of the united states. our colleagues have talked about believing that our members were doing this. i know that they will. i know that our republican colleagues care about the constitution. i know that they believe in the separation of power. i know they would not want a president, republican or democrat, to usurp the powers of whichstitution we serve we all serve, as part of the separation of powers, the checks and the senate as well. i think all of my colleagues for , and the leadership of chairman castro -- do you still have a beard? [laughter] is an historic moment for our country. a civics lesson and thee constitution contained therein. the guardian of the gate of o

. >> bill: you mentioned laredo. is there a wall there? >> zero walls. >> how is the level of crime? >> you run across the border in texas we have very dangerous drug cartel that conducts human and drug smuggling to include human trafficking. we only have two miles of river roads in that area out of the 170 miles of border that we have in laredo only. >> if you get what you're looking for, what would it take to accomplish the mission. >> president trump's will to make sure he declares an emergency declaration to make sure we build the wall but also take care of other aspects of border security including employee retention. right now border patrol agents we're undermanned by 2,000. the congressmen aren't talking about it. it is not in the bill. >> bill: that's a half measure in your view. >> of course. >> bill: if they go forward and get the money in a perfect word for laredo based onier perspective what needs to be done. >> physical barriers, infrastructure, technology and manpower and border patrol retention. we can't keep ahold of this e

laredo or mcallen, where the president was worried if they go west, like the previous caravan, they'lld toward tijuana. you mentioned numbers. we got to talk numbers. this one is brearley 3,000 people, that's in addition to the 12,600 12,600 migrants giva fast-track temporary asylum and wrk visa for up to one year. they are at the southern border getting their papers, even though mexico stop that program, they will make their way north toward the u.s. border and then you have two more caravans they are advertising on social media. one is on february 7th. the other on february 16th. meeting inar san pedro, hondura, the same location that these migrants met on the 15th of january when we joined them so many weeks ago. then you add to that number two to 3,000 that are in tijuana from that caravan last october that we followed. you are talking about a veryng significant number, sean. you are talking upwards of 15 to 20,000 total people of caravans and we have to talk about one last thing, and that is why this is happening. the biggest bull factor, as the border patrol will tell you, the ne

on friday nancy pelosi was in nearby laredo and spoke with reporters about the bill introduced by congressmanthat blocks trump's national emergency if it does pass. the house votes on that bill tuesday. now if it does pass, the bill heads then to the senate where it could force the hand of republicans in a floor vote. let's go to our panel nancy coke, and kevin ser illy and washington correspondent. kevin, we played this out in the terms of way this will game. at the end of the day it comes down to potentially whether it could become veto-proof. whether it could make it through both the senate and the house. if it passes the first time around. and is there any indication that there would be enough senators on the republican side that may side with the democrats? >> no. look, senator susan collins and a centrist republican from maine said she will vote with democrats on this one. she feels president is not going with his constitutional authority and it is not constitutional for the president to declare a national emergency. but i got to be honest here, and nancy knows this as well, i'm hard pr

if you look at what congressman cuellar is proposing in laredo, texas, he's proposing a bulkhead whichdon't care. just give us that physical barrier, that structure that will allow us to dictate where illegal immigration takes place so that we can be as successful at possible interdicting the narcotics and illegals. >> neil: thank you. >> thank you. >> neil: sean spicer is coming up. one of the guests will be a boy whose last name is trump and he's not related to the president. 've been promising. because with expedia, i saved when i added a hotel to our flight. ♪ so even when she outgrows her costume, we'll never outgrow the memory of our adventure together. unlock savings when you add select hotels to your existing trip. only when you book with expedia. ♪ ♪ i can do more to lower my a1c. because my body can still make its own insulin. and i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like it's supposed to. trulicity is not insulin. it starts acting in my body from the first dose and continues to work when i need it, 24/7. trulicity is an injection to improve blood s

there are no paved roads close to the border in this part of texas between eagle pass and laredo. decide to crow here you're taking your life in your hands. new sections of the wall are being planned in the rio grande valley and could eventually threaten the national butterfly center despite a recent reprieve. >> this is a remnant of native habitat. set aside for conservation. and it's all going to be destroyed. >> what will happen to the natural butterfly center if this wall goes in? >> it will look like a prison yard which not good for eco tourism and we could lose access to 70% of our property that will be south of the border wall. >> reporter: not far away border patrol are out in force around mcallen picking up large groups of people the vast majority are families. agents can actually see what's happening on the mexican side of the river. >> they are right there. >> who are they motioning to in >> they want us to leave. the ra they have rafts. >> reporter: the final stretch of wall ends near brownsville, texas but the border between the two countries stretches further to the

it actually happened in laredo.nd all the crime that he's quoting is happening on the other side of the border. it's not happening in the u.s., and it doesn't transfer to the u.s. there is a lot of cooperation among dea, local, and federal and state law enforcement down there, and it's actually a very safe place to be. and those places get tainted all the time with it being dangerous, and it's simply not the case. it's not at all. >> laura, do you think white house lawyers are pulling their hair out after hearing the president say, quote, he didn't need to do this. that's just one more example that shows that this isn't a real emergency. >> don, they have no hair left at this point in time. imagine, if you will -- >> they look like me. >> you look good still, don. they call 911, and then you say, but take your time with the ambulance. why did you call 911 if i could take my time? if you could make your way to the hospital at your leisure or maybe your doctor come monday morning. that was the essence of what the pres

. >> woodruff: later, in a visit to laredo, texas, speaker nancy pelosi said there ino national emergencyd that mr. trump created a crisis. >> but we will be fighting him on this usurpation of power in the congress and in the courts. and so this is a path. i don't expect him to sign it, but i do expect us to send it. >> woodruff: meanwhile, pentagon officials briefed congressional staffers today on how they might implement the president's order. lisa desjardins spent part of her day at the pentagon. and she joins me now. lisa, what are you learning about when the pentagon plans tw try to implemet the president wants? >> i spoke to the same senior dentagon officials who brie congress. they told me this -- right now, they are assessing exactly what projects te needed at the border. they're working with the yepartment of homeland secur on that. they think, within weeks, they will have that list. then, judy, to my question about timing, they said they think, within months, they hope to be ready through an expedited process to begin some construction. >> rerurter:. >> wo: so if they're going t

that not just the president wants, it's what the border patrol wants, the experts say should be in laredo, yuma and the rio grande. can you explain why so many democrats are against putting a physical barrier right now where the experts say they need to put them when they were so willing to fund even more of a fence back in 2006? >> they don't want it because president trump wants it and whether it's the feelings that they have for president trump or the ill feelings they have towards all the americans that voted for president trump, that is all that changed. but senator schumer voted for it. president obama. senator clinton. a lot of these democrats put that over the top. it was a bipartisan bill. by the way, just last year, last fiscal year, you had democrats, house and senate from all -- coast to coast, all across the country, voting for an appropriations package with money to be used to strengthen the physical border. part of the project includes a steel fence. so that' all that's changed sint year, we had the shutdown and the president has made it more clearly known that this is some

a man honduran came to the texas border, forced brief closure of the laredo port. this is this week. this is what we're ignoring. this is not what we are doing for the american people while we engage in this charade. this is not what the american people sent us here to do. this is an embarrassment for our country. i talk to my beautiful wife in drippings springs texas before the hearing. i said don't bother watching. she said as i roughly expected, don't worry, i won't. i have more important things to do. she, like the rest of the american people, have a hell of a lot more important things to do than to watch this. i said, amen, darling. i can't help but think that is what the majority of the american people are thinking while watching this unbelievable circus. i yield back. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i have got a lot to do as well. i have got houses and schools to help rebuild in the virgin islands, expansion of voting rights, educational opportunities, criminal justice reform. thank god the democratic majority can walk and chew gum at the same time, so we're her

this is in nuevo laredo. how do peopleg at feel about migration on both sides of the border. there is an international bridge so people are lining up to request asylum. working the border for a long time, but this was the first time last year that i saw families sleeping on the bridge and at the time, i was like -- i hadn't seen this, but it was because the u.s. has been restricting the number of people who request asylum. so they essentially just are hanging around, waiting to be able to request asylum, which is problematic in terms of the law. what has happened recently is that this administration has decided that people who request asylum have to wait in mexico in tijuana. it is problematic because if you thing about safety and think about the fact that it often takes six months to a year to request asylum, let's say you are a trans woman in tijuana waiting six months to a year to request asylum. the chances that you will experience violence are very high. this was a single father traveling with his son. i will never forget what he said to me. he said, i am both the mother