pete dominic, host of siriusxm radio's "stand up." and jill wine-banks, special prosecutor, now msnbc legal contributor. let me go to you first, jill. what can we learn from the watergate investigation and hearings that could be instructive, particularly around the history of the mueller report going public? >> i think one of the most important things is that even if the mueller report goes public, which i certainly hope that it will, and think there is a need for, we still need public hearings. the watergate case was informed by the senate having hearings with the witnesses evaluated by the american public. we could see their body language. we could hear their tone of voice. we could evaluate the testimony of one person against another and make a determination of what was true and what was not. congress' role is really important, and in this case, congress has to do oversight about what is happening. they can look at what laws need to be passed to prevent future outcomings like this. but they also can look at whether the president ne