lemonis: i've connected jennifer and chandler with chef rick tarantino. od development for my entire food group. and together, we're visiting a co-packer to understand what it takes to actually mass-produce some sauce. tarantino: so, all these metrics help me see what the ph is. so, in order to be stable, we need to be below 4.5. jennifer: shelf stable? okay. tarantino: shelf stable. okay? lemonis: it goes without saying that product integrity is our primary goal, but we also have to learn how to mass-produce this product and do it at a price that actually could clear the market at retail. tarantino: this is a clear pet pack. it allows us to temperature seal the safety seal. lemonis: i'm gonna need you to start costing these out in this size. if chandler were ever gonna be on my team, this is exactly the kind of project that i would give him. i want to see if he could think methodically. can he use data to make decisions? and more importantly, can he work with others to get the job done? you've got to start with knowing what it cost you to make, sharing th