scott ramona, the service that lets you charge up electric cars, sort of the modern day gas station. he's calling changes to the federal tax credits. and amy hall, thank you for being with us. talk to meboreak but there needs to be changes and what we are doing with these cars. >> yes, subsidies if they are properly night. nothing in nature works that way. in an appropriate ramp down is h cut zero in an industry that clearly has consumer report that's not a great idea. >> what would affect your business as well? you kind of depend on electric cars being out there. >> yes. the growth rate last year this year is around 40%. >> what do you mean by 40%? >> 40% volume growth in terms of cars sold. >> really? >> yes, it is staggering. >> that's better practice. >> the subsidies are not going to go from 7500 to zero. i saw today on tesla's website that those subsidies are going to go down from i don't kno know -- 7500 to half way and half way again over a period of about a year. it is not flat like everything and nothing. >> exactly. >> what i was referring to is right.eriod of time is just