the yale political union was my undergrad career. we bring a guest speaker on and have formal debates according to ,oberts rules of order parliamentary style stuff. all matters of political interest but some philosophical debates. brian: how much time did you spend on the yale political union? ms. andrews: all the time i was not asleep. i was the speaker, the one with the gavel. brian: how did you get into that? and the impact of these experiences for people in college make a difference. ms. andrews: absolutely. you asked when i decided to go into journalism. i just drifted into it. i mentioned earlier i started a little blog on wordpress way back in the day when people have blogs. through that i started writing for magazines and eventually that turned into a career. experience was your living in australia and what impact did that have on your thinking about your politics, the media, the internet? on the one hand, it may be appreciate the internet more because even though i was on the other cited the world, i continued -- the other s

i majored in the yale political union. chnically, my major was religious studies and i did my thesis on oscar wilde but i spent most of my time in the yale political union. mixing it up on the debate tour. i graduated in 2008. i came to washington right away. i started a blog as a senior in college and had gotten the attention of some editors. from the moment i graduated i went from internship to internship and eventually wound up at in this -- as an associate editor at national review. brian: what is first things magazine? ms. andrews: it is a premier magazine about religion and culture. it has a little bit of a catholic heritage. there's a lot of longform journalism about issues of faith and culture. brian: how did you get into your interest in religion and catholicism? were you born catholic? ms. andrews: i come from a catholic family but was not raised catholic. my heritage from a few generations back is catholic and i was raised in the church of npr. near the research triangle park and i developed an interest in theolo

and now iaustralia come back and i talk to those in the l political union now, and the -- the yale medicalnion now, and it is different from what i remember. brian: what worries do you have that now the you have talked about this video from 2010, you wrote about it and got a sydni award out of it and we are re-showing it, will have a future impact? ms. andrews: i worried it would dredge it all back up. that is one thing a couple people said to me. helen, are you sure you want to take this assignment? it has died down, people have forgotten, your name is different and you can move on. but the very day i first set down to write the first page, my husband happened to be at a conference and his lunch table got to talking about bad breakups and the conservative movement and one guy at his table said, if you want to see bad breakups, you have to see this. and he pulled out his phone and called up the c-span video, not knowing that he was talking to someone who was now we are to me. so the idea that it was dead and gone and forgotten, as leo was, and mostly it was, but it never really will be. br

union. there are four or five people who give this response and they go to a woman who ended up at yale law.rkable. what does that signal to from biden to the gentlewoman from the bronx? john: stacey abrams is such an important choice, such a contrast with the president, not her tone woman, but and the way she talks about policies and politics is going to be an important way to differentiate nachos democratic values from the president but democrat approach from the president. given the trouble that governor northam has been in virginia, up being ans ends ideal person. is liberal, what does progressive mean right now? is the democrats frame getting to the beginning of the primary season. how do you define liberal now? john: it is interesting. it depends on who you are talking to. liberal is no longer a dirty word. we have polling that suggests more americans than ever are self-described liberals. is somethings want that is more fair and promotes equality economically. those are the things that are allowing people to call themselves liberal end have a party that is excepting them. -- and have

union. wrongs, injustices, folks being left out. you've got to get involved. so i went off and got my education and went out west. studied, came back to law school and yale and my dad looked at me and said, more degrees in the month of july but you ain't hot. ife is not about the degrees the service about you give. and -- [applause] to run at decided problems. i'm offended by american of cism because the story america is a perpetual testimony to the achievement of the mpossible and even in the darkest moments of our history, he depths of slavery, people still had a vision for freedom and because of their vision and women, who d, and were denied the right to vote, had a vision for full suffrage, so because of downof cynicism we've torn that barrier in sweatshops and labor. people stood up and said i will not give into what is. i will fight for what can be and they shaped this country into a workers' rights and universal public education. we're a nation that should never try to candy coat or whitewash our past. difficult times but we're defined by the ability to them, and so -- i'm running for president, running for president, not just because ideas i have