. >> joining us now, an expert in security clearance is ben rhodes, a former deputy national security adviser to president obama. he is now an msnbc political analyst. and ben, we're seeing -- this "new york times" reporting is very clear tonight. very i think authoritative that the president obviously interfered in this process. we just saw the president say publicly that no, he didn't. we just saw ivanka trump say that no, that's not the way her husband got the security clearance. in your reading of this "new york times" report tonight what did they do in effect to the security clearance process in order to get one for jared

ben rhodes, also an msnbc political contributor and elliott williams, legislative affairs during the obama administration, msnbc contributor kimberly atkins washington correspondent for wbur in boston. frank, i want to ask you first about the conclusions of the mueller probe as we capitulated, if you will, in that brief four-page letter to congress by william barr because we now understand that he had -- this william barr had seen the conclusions. he'd been given them some weeks before according to julia ainsley at the justice department. does that take away some of the criticism of barr for making a snap 48-hour decision this quickly on whether or not to prosecute on obstruction which was the one -- the one major issue that mueller did not exonerate the president on? >> so it -- it does somewhat mitigate the criticism, but again, it's taken mueller two years to dig deeply into this and look at very nuanced, subtle, counter intelience and intelligence questions and as mueller describes, difficult issues of fact and law. so the fact that the two years in the making for ultimate decisi

. >> joining me now is ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser in the obama white house,bc political contributor, and nbc national security and global affairs reporter dan deluse who has been covering this. dan, they've been going back and forth over and over again to tehran. what's going on there? >> yes, in fact there's a pattern where they've been flying to dubai and return to tehran in a few hours. this is the pattern of basically carrying cash for the north korean regime, that's the suspici suspicion. >> and that cash is financing the scheme. this details the ship to ship transfers. hugh griffiths, who we interviewed yesterday, said in 15 years of working for united nations investigators, has never seen anything like this, where they're repainting the hulls of the ships to make them look panamanian rather than north korean, but they're using signals to masquerade as ships that are far away. >> they're stealing the license plates, basically. it's a very sophisticated. you're right, this expert was totally flabbergasted, he had never seen it at this level. they took th

global policies and work at the secret heart of government and i guess this week is one of them is ben rhodes and former national security adviser to president obama after two years of the trouble presidency how well is obama's lead.

croft global policies and work at the secret hot government my guest this week is one of them is ben rhodes and former national security adviser to president obama after two years of the presidency how well is obama's legacy holding up. the roads welcomes codes exist thanks for having me i'll give you one of the biggest upsets of the obama presidency was the election of trump set out to repudiate a lot of what president obama did why didn't you see that coming. well you know i think most people were surprised by the results of the election i think it was a number of factors you know i think the first is that you're broke obama personally was still quite popular at the end of his presidency the economy was growing and it seemed like things were set up for a democratic victory in that election and you said being with obama gave you the confidence that you were part of something that was right yes was there certain arrogance in that do you think no no i mean when i say that i mean that you know frankly as progressives i think barack obama and me tend to sometimes think that history is moving i

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. >> laura: and you think of people like samantha power, you think of ben rhodes. this will crowd in the clinton -- ben rhodes is still going on tv, still talking about how this all stinks to high heaven. >> susan rice said all kinds of wrong things. what bothers americans most is the double standard. one set of rules for regular people. people i get the privilege of representing. a different set if your name is clinton, comey, lynch, lerner. >> laura: what about the democratic party today? i tried to give them counseling. what do you think they can do? they've gotten themselves in a bit of a trick box. i'm not going to get all cocky about it. like they can't ever recover. but they are in a bit of a bind with the base and the leftists in their party. >> they have a real dilemma and i think you probably wouldn't totally agree with it. in a way, being totally crazy about this may be less destructive than getting quiet and letting us see who they really are. i was approached by a reporter this morning. think about this. >> laura: i see. >> i was approached by a report

joining me now is ben rhodes the former deputy national security adviser in the obama white house and an nbc political contributor. for one thing, ben, by our count in eight of the president's 11 foreign trips so far there have been breaking developments on the russia front, mueller's appointment and the like. so it's very hard to find the time when nothing is happening here and that hearing had been scheduled before the vietnam summit. >> yeah. andrea, look, this is nonsense. it's not like without that hearing that north korea would have accepted trump's proposal. you know, andrea, how much work has to go into these summits. you covered the iran negotiations where huge teams of people worked for many weeks before we put the secretary of state in the room with the iranians and the fact of the matter is this summit failed because they did not do that preparation. they did not do the work to tee up a deal that could be reached in vietnam and if you don't do the homework you fail the test and that's what happened here. >> i also wanted to play the complete absence of conversation about h

there's a process for a reason here, and it's to protect -- >> marie, you know that ben rhodes was deniedokay? chris: we should point out he was on the national security council staff for barack obama. >> look, this is all about the president being able to hire who he wants and have them in the position that he wants -- chris: all right, wait, guys. let me bring in gillian -- >> i haven't been able to confirm it. as far as the reporting i've looked at, nobody else has been able to confirm this. the key question is whether jared kushner actually ever took a polygraph and whether he passed or failed. as somebody who had a top secret security clearance for five years, an important part of the process for 95 president of the people is, ultimately, whether they passed or failed a polygraph. if a passed the test and it was the judgment of the cia and the intel community that he shouldn't get the clearance and the president overrode it, that is one matter. if he failed a polygraph test and the president overrode it to deny him a clearance anyway -- chris: i have to say, that's a pretty explosive

. >> joining us now, an expert in security clearance is ben rhodes, a former deputy national securityent obama. he is now an msnbc political analyst. and ben, we're seeing -- this "new york times" reporting is very clear tonight. very i think authoritative that the president obviously interfered in this process. we just saw the president say publicly that no, he didn't. we just saw ivanka trump say that no, that's not the way her husband got the security clearance. in your reading of this "new york times" report tonight what did they do in effect to the security clearance process in order to get one for jared kushner? >> well, first of all, it's telling that they felt like they had to lie about it. if they didn't think they'd done something wrong, then why did they feel like they had to lie about it? the second thing is the career professionals go through this and they look for, lawrence, whether there's any vulnerability in giving someone a security clearance. and they make a recommendation based on that investigation. and clearly they felt there was a vulnerability in giving jared k

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white house correspondent for pbs news hour and the former deputy -- well, actually ben rhodes is ther deputy national security advisor under obama. everybody can't do everything. first of all i want to make a little plea here. if the president was so dam innocent, why does it take two years to get cleared onclusion? two years by a man he honors now? digging in and finally after two years he's able to clear it onclusion. and still says i can't exonerate him on obstruction. and he says it was a waste of time. it was -- we had to have in this country. we had it because we're vigilant about our democracy. it turned out oin one case to be exonerating, perhaps and in other case not kpaun rotting. what do you take of the vengeance campaign of this president? >> it's good to be on your show. we live in a nation of laws. there's a rule of law a constitution, the department of justice and look, the darmts of justice did their job. tl the special counsel was appointed. the president said it was a witch hunt. well, if it was, it yielded 37 indictments. six people around the president pleaded gui

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