my dad was actually interned at hart mountain, wyoming.nt levels of discrimination. iinterment is just one example. there are those who discriminate based on who they see in front of you, and i think that's really wrong. everyone has had at least some experience of some type of discrimination. and i think for our family, having lived through that, also coming back to reestablish a business in san francisco, san francisco's japan town, has been a great -- you know, we kind of live by example. you open your doors to the world. and it is amazing what you see. growing up in the business, i had a front-row seat to all those that came to san francisco because san francisco is such a great city. you know, of course we have those beautiful landmarks. we've got the goldengate bridge and all of those, but it is getting into the neighborhoods and getting to meet the people is really what makes san francisco unique. having us be the first city to jump on board with the "open to all" campaign reminds everybody, yes, as a business owner, you need to be

and gary hart when he subsequently ran, he went out to colorado out in the mountains somewhere and had this sort of very naval gaysing announcement. and gary hart was really substantial. >> this is inspirational, that gary hart was a sort of new age post hippie intellectual. >> right. >> and beto is being cast as, again, and we're still learning, we'll see how it goes, he is initially being cast as a searching millennial. >> right. and we don't know if there is anything really down there that he has found. so that's what we're looking for. i didn't mean that exactly how it came out. >> none of the female candidates could possibly come out here with no hard concrete policy proposals, with no hard facts that they're really taking to drive their campaign. he is like i'm born to be in it, but doesn't have a clear message. >> after the break, real quick, it's a cross between born to run and not all who wander are lost. that's where i led. >> that's straight out of the old testament. >> but what we're going to do is fit in a break. i'll have all of you back for this conversation. maybe when