pakistan till the cows come home but now what you've got is an indigenous movement you look at the kashmiris out on the streets you look at the hostility the use of pellet guns to quell crowds only make sickish mirrors feel they're being treated like cattle this is not the way to win hearts and minds which was the mantra chanted twenty years ago by the indian government and they've done the exact opposite with the russian listening to pakistani officials over the last few days they seem to be completely in denial about their responsibility for what's happening this saying that we have nothing to do with. it is not claiming responsibility for the i do think that the pakistanis are typically will have to make major concessions for this issue in particular to move forward. well let me just say one thing in addition to what victoria said which i agree with very much is that it's very dangerous for india to hunt this kind of level of antipathy amongst the kashmiri population not it did this is not anti-gay i can is i'm growing because of bucket start up because of pakistani militants coming acros

i think there are two different scenarios for anyone here you are there will be the kashmiris who are in indian administered kashmir they largely are muslim groups that also hindus there and maybe some christians too they have a very different life experience to the rest of india. if you ask indians in the south of the country about what they feel about kashmir or the pakistan india border areas they would have very different opinion to those actually live on the border security has always been an issue in this country just doesn't really matter with your the west of the country or the east of the country. towards bangladesh security has always been an issue and we've seen attacks on indian soil whether it be the attacks of two thousand and eight we've seen attacks and at of our in delhi courts in our highways that now this is yet another attack in the world or kashmiris up in the in the indian administered areas would say as they have been demonstrating on the streets in the several weeks leading up to this event that they too have been punished for wanting to talk to the government

and as tensions have flared between india and pakistan again it is kashmiris living on both sides of the disputed border that say they are the ones who suffer the most and one can as the stories from the. by car on foot the residents of to leave in a haste this village on the disputed border area of kashmir known as the line of control is typical of many in the area. shelling from both sides is not uncommon but in recent days it's increased to levels not seen in two decades and people aren't taking any chances are that the more the. need over there more days after they keep saying here the government doesn't do anything we have to calm the insulted we're now wandering there's no point in living. from the village alone some three hundred families have fled in surrounding villages artillery shells have damaged houses in this village the women and children have left but the men have stayed behind to defend. we stand with the army we stand here just a kilometer away from the border we won't leave her forces behind there are also similar scenes happening in indian administered kashmir jus

pakistan till the cows come home but now what you've got is an indigenous movement you look at the kashmiris out on the streets you look at the hostility the use of pellet guns to quell crowds only make sickish mirrors feel they're being treated like cattle this is not the way to win hearts and minds which was the mantra chanted twenty years ago by the indian government and they've done the exact opposite with the russian listening to pakistani officials over the last few days they seem to be completely in denial about their responsibility for what's happening for this saying that we have nothing to do with. it is not claiming responsibility for the i do think that the pakistanis are typically will have to make major concessions for this issue in particular to go forward. well let me just say one thing in addition to what victoria said which i agree with very much is that it's very dangerous for india to hunt this kind of level of antipathy amongst the kashmiri population not it did that this is not an anti-gay i can ism growing because of but could start out because of pakistani militants c

after days of increased tension between pakistan and india kashmiri leaders are criticizing the indian government's crackdown against separatist groups in the region for example accused of supporting an armed resistance against india hundreds have been arrested their leaders say the work that they do for the region's most vulnerable children will now be affected so hell raman reports now from new delhi. it's an early start for these students in should they come to this religious school from some of the poorest families in the region this hot drink and snack is perhaps the only opportunity to eat all the cold winter morning. many live in isolated villages and farms so it's a chance to see friends and catch up before classes begin however they may not be able to study here for much longer. the government has banned jamaat e islami that runs this religious school and many more like it in the region it says the group supports armed resistance against india and is a threat to the country's stability. student says it's a disappointing setback to his education as a i want to do something in m

be careful and cautious moving forward after days of increased tension between pakistan and india kashmiri leaders are criticizing the indian government's crackdown against separatist groups . mali is accused of supporting an armed resistance against india hundreds have been arrested and leaders say their work for the disputed regions most vulnerable children will now be affected so iran has more new delhi it's an early start for these students in shouldn't go they come to this religious school from some of the poorest families in the region this hot drink and snack is perhaps the only opportunity to eat or the cold winter morning. many live in isolated villages and farms so it's a chance to see friends and catch up before classes begin however they may not be able to study here for much longer. the government has banned jamaat e islami that runs this religious school and many more like it in the region it says the group supports armed resistance against india and is a threat to the country's stability. student and there says it's a disappointing setback to his education. i want to do some

arbitrary detention of kashmiris never to return to their homes again or letting up in the mosque. then we have seen quite on push for incident there they had been more than thirty my seculars in ninety four seven. more than half a million kashmiris were slaughtered so i think we need to see the entire perspective the main issue is the issue of kashmir i'm sure which means have been denied really millionaire in really know what to do with one in forty seven obviously we don't to go back there right now i would say though that britain is not officially backing the built in road. trade initiative of the chinese government all the governments would deny that this kind of flare up of conflict would benefit them but could escalate of any kind threaten the chinese pakistan economic corridor which is clearly in the region one of the most important infrastructure projects and there is a stance on this is that in that part of the region. isha and particularly in south asia there's huge potential. and definitely any conflict situation would be an impediment in the v.a. of attaining the econo

well as tensions have flared between india and pakistan kashmiris living on both sides of the disputed border say very other one suffering the most imran khan has that story now from. by car on foot the residents of leave in haste this village on the disputed border area of kashmir known as the line of control is typical of many in the area. shelling from both sides is not uncommon but in recent days it's increased to levels not seen in two decades and people aren't taking any chances are that the more. over there more after. hearing the government doesn't do anything we have to come to insulted we're now wondering there's no point in living. from the village alone some three hundred families have fled in surrounding villages artillery shells have damaged houses in this village the women and children have left but the men have stayed behind to defend. we stand with the army we stand here just a kilometer away from the border we won't leave our forces behind there are also similar scenes happening in indian administered kashmir just post that military checkpoint law is the line of contr

well which is giving the bad is that now but the groups are active today probably you know if you kashmiri actually say they are in the minority. look if there are people as you said earlier that there are people who can be attracted to. of asian that is presented there are some people who might be liking an ideology it's just a portrayal all i want kashmir the struggle to defame it to connect it with terrorism it is not true the issue of armed groups and who supports them is a phony one in park your son now the pakistani authorities say they are cracking down on these armed groups but it's clear that they are in the spotlight right now what isn't clear is what pockets on intends to do about the groups among current al-jazeera was about. semitic foreigners an author and a conflict management analyst is joining us now live from islamabad thanks very much for being on al-jazeera with this. imran khan the prime minister of pakistan had said is that it was a gesture of peace to hand back the indian pilot why has it stopped that what else can pakistan do to try and reinforce the gestures of pea

india has sought clarification on what appears to be an informal ban of government advertising in kashmiri newspapers it's happened before but it seems more serious now according to analysts in the light of the attack on military personnel in pole warmer it also raises a much larger question of freedom of the press across india and how far journalists are willing to go before falling foul of the government so rahman al jazeera new delhi. are tough a quick check of the headlines here on al-jazeera the un's describing site as one of the worst weather disasters ever to hit the southern hemisphere hundreds are confirmed dead many more missing millions of people have been affected across mozambique zimbabwe and malawi the first funerals have begun in christchurch new zealand for victims of friday's shooting at two mosques that killed fifty people twenty one bodies have been released to the families for burials police hope to return the rest of the remains as soon as possible the prime minister just into our journey has been visiting christchurch where she told people to do their part in the fig

this is something which is unprecedented that this former kashmiri civil servant made news for resigning from his post to protest against the government in new delhi policies policies he says are far more militaristic leaving no room for peaceful negotiation. institutions of dialogue negotiation those being kind of becoming irrelevant and no important and no significant political initiative from delhi has been there for last through. the indian government has long complained that pakistan supports groups who promote violence and push mir whoever is to blame for the under arrest in the disputed region all these indians want to do for now celebrate the release of their pilot as jamil al jazeera new delhi. high has more now from. august on has handed over the indian fire led to war shot down by a fungus tony croft by your son saying that the indian eggdrop drained a while a deadline crowed and flying into a bunker sonnie a space after the indian pilots buried there were the maldives almost killed him however it was the pakistani military rendered a fart and rescued the indian pilot after wh

between pakistan and indian administered kashmir and it's not just on this side of the border that kashmiris are scared people are also fleeing from over there shows from the pakistani side has increased in recent days. may god protect everyone as well as hindus and six. to do politic and science so that peace peace is in the region and believe in. those prayers may well be in vain for now both pakistan and india are pushing each other diplomatically and militarily and so far neither shows any signs of backing down in the disputed region of kashmir is the people that are feeling the pain and once again they feel they're being used as pawns between the two nuclear powers. and the indian polity story not surprising has gone viral on social media readers. that start has and there's been a lot of reaction and also anticipation to the indian pilots release online the hash tag welcome back been a don has gone viral also in india as well as pakistan many are celebrating and sharing illustrations like the calling him a national hero and the family of the pilot also received a standing ovation and ch

regions and newspapers are under more pressure the indian government has stopped advertising into kashmiri dailies taking away a vital source of revenue so how raman reports from new delhi. the job of a journalist and bashir is not an easy one there are many protests to report on protests often aimed at the central government to new delhi or the security forces photojournalists a cherry knows not everyone will be happy with the work he produces. on the government's side on the security forces side and unfortunately. from the people side from the. many places to go to you know situations whatever we see. moving around this highly militarized region is no mean feat there are security checkpoints at regular intervals and patrols by heavily armed soldiers stop and search is a regular occurrence for everyone including journalists thanks and documenting the region's news has become even more difficult this month the government withdrew advertising from two major kashmiri newspapers it didn't give a reason but such a move is being seen by journalists as a warning from new delhi to toe the governm

concern that the frenzy hat indian government whipped up around the attack has resulted in poor kashmiris being attacked and hounded across india, even as leaders are being rounded up and imprison bid indian forces. this is happening on top of the unspeakable atrocities that the kashmiri people have suffered particularly since 2016 that are now duly documented in the uno, chr, and apg reports. the international community cannot afford to continue getting it wrong. it must recognize that the real cause of regional instability in south asia is the unresolved dispute of kashmir. it is time to address the oldest dispute on the u.n. security council's agenda. ladies and gentlemen, before i conclude, let me retread the importance pakistan attaches to its relationship with the united states and our desire to build a long-term and broad based partnership between the two countries. i thank you very much for your patience. >> thank you, ambassador. as always, very comprehensive and eloquent. so what we'll do here is have a bit of a chat, and then open it up for questions from all of you and could i

kashmiris have been on the front as india and pakistan battle over their region. expectedan guaido is to return toto venezuela after a bid to rally support, a move that is said to challenge nicolas maduro, it will have t o decide w whether to o arrest the leleader for defying the travel ban. algeria ailing president says he will run again for a fifth term. tensions soar between india and pakistan over airstrikes, we look at what families living along the line of control in kashmir are enduring. we take you to rio de janeiro, where the carnaval season is in full swing. people flock to share their love of salma. up to 7 million people take part in the festivities. >> it took them 40 hours to fly to rio de janeiro. brazil.rnaval season in -- this is the only -- from japan. carnaval kicked off on friday and is in full swing. sunday and monday night is the time for professionals. stuff.rut their >> i prepare all year for this. >> this year, it is more than just fun. it is the first since the election of bolsonaro and the political situation is on the minds of many. jan

this is something which is unprecedented that this former kashmiri civil servant made news for resigning from his post to protest against the government new delhi's policies policies he says are far more militaristic leaving no room for peaceful negotiation. institutions of dialogue negotiation those being kind of becoming relevant and nor important and no significant political initiative from delhi has been there for the last few years. the indian government has long complained that pakistan supports groups who promote violence in kashmir whoever is to blame for the under arrest in the disputed region all these indians want to do for now celebrate the release of their pilot jamil al jazeera new delhi. so tell us a little more about the shelling on the border of an ice. yes it's not just been overnight it's been like the last seventy two hours not been a real problem for residents on both sides of the line of control is the constant shelling by the military's perspective militaries of course a great deal of eggs nightmare scenarios in one particular incident we're seeing a we're hearing

kashmiri but i'm. not the one i want. you know me to be about to let me get them out it looks like. you know but i'll come back to that up a. little bit. you think follow that up and most point but. in spite of the tension the young artists and determined that the show must go on because each performance is a festive occasion and there are a precious few of those in kabul. to see. the world. everyone is slightly on edge in kabul big crowds often become targets for terrorist attacks which is why the show count run longer than often our. vision of the mission this is a little of this of what douglas handling. all of that. was going to go in the city where you are going to go without a warrant all of us know when you're going to get me but that was a local made i'm not a public i'm going to come up a little. bit when it's not needed. i'm not a. legal . because i want to make you. know. if. i. live. life. to live by going to the market. it. can run down. the line and that's the first time that the public. believes that. the number soon lose such a loser in the movie. was. often just hal

thousands of --ian and pakistani soldiers developments is our correspondent who joins us city.he kashmiril us a little bit more about what is going on at the moment. , he is you mentioned believed to be on ththe pakistai side of the border at the moment.. there were c conflicting reports sayiying he was still making his way y over. a lot of o other sources are isis handing ovetoto the inindian side is s imminent. media are calalling this a homomecoming fofor the p. this couould take e a bit of tie given the formalities i involve. there is paperwork and other sorts of formamalities that have b be done befefore he crosseses over. when he does make it across the border, he will be greeted by his s parents and indian air r e offificials. hihis father w was an air force pilot. he will be very eager. his paparents will be eagag to have him back as will thousandnd and millllions of i indians. hundndreds of them are gatheredt the border to welcome him back to give him a hero''s welcome. people on both side of the border have been watching this saga unfold and therere is concn over his fate. even

this is happening on top of the unspeakable atrocities that the kashmiri people have suffered, particularly since 2016, that are now duly documented in the u.n. of chr report. international community cannot afford to continue getting it wrong. it must recognize that it is the unresolved dispute of kashmir. time to address the oldest dispute on the u.s. security council agency. ladies and gentlemen, before i conclude, let me reiterate the important pakistan attaches to its relationship with the united states and our desire to build a long-term and broad-based partnership between the two countries. i thank you very much for your patience. [applause] >> thank you, ambassador. as always very copperheads of and eloquent. what we'll do is have a bit of a chat, and then open it up for questions from all of you. can i request my colleagues to see if we could get questions on the overflow room as well? we have a large crowd and a couple of other rooms as andrew mentioned, this was an oversold so want to make sure they can be part of this. ambassador, let me first begin by the only softball and give

exclusive we talked to the family of the kashmiri used to authorities say killed more than forty troops here about the growing anger in this disputed region. i brought thomas thanks so much for being with us the british parliament votes today on leaving the european union without a deal on their future relationship this follows last night's. rejection of the latest and file agreement prime minister theresa may secured with brussels m.p.'s voting overwhelmingly against her proposal delivering another humiliating defeat to an embattled prime minister. it was one of the biggest parliamentary defeats ever for a sitting prime minister many of the dissenting votes came from within prime minister to resign may's own party as the results were announced it was clear may had lost her authority and her voice on a point of order this is speaker i profoundly the decision that this house has taken tonight i continue to believe that by far the best outcome is the united kingdom leaves the european union and orderly fashion with the. lawmakers were frustrated that we may have earlier failed to secure o

into chicago a typical kashmiri bought since he was a young boy. the recent oh boy has scared away his clients and decimated. the. second we have it there are about four thousand boe toners here five all lost business is a terrible situation. even sprains have seen the income wax and wane over the years. in line with the militant attacks protests and crackdowns that really are to clean up inflame tensions in indian held parts of the region. i don't know what the problems are between india and pakistan kashmir is passed between them like a football is just used politically. it's a sentiment shared by many on the streets of srinagar indian administered kashmir soldiers are everywhere the recent war games between india and pakistan have added to the sense of unease no one was willing to speak out on camera. while tensions between india and pakistan are winding down after last week's aerial strikes a climate of fear prevails in the heavily militarized. here in downtown srinagar shops and businesses are open today after days of intermittent strikes and.

well racial kashmiri leaders are criticizing the indian government's crackdown on the separatist groups one of them is jamaat e islami whose members are accused of supporting an armed resistance against india but its leaders says across its leaders say the crackdown will affect the group's charity work so hell raman has more now from new delhi it's an early start for these students in srinagar they come to this religious school from some of the poorest families in the region this hot drink and snack is perhaps the only opportunity to eat or the cold winter morning many live in isolated villages and farms so it's a chance to see friends and catch up before classes begin however they may not be able to study here for much longer. the government has banned jamaat e islami that runs this religious school and many more like it in the region it says the group supports armed resistance against india and is a threat to the country's stability. student says it's a disappointing setback to his education. i want to do something in my life that benefits everyone i wasn't very religious and wanted t

moment shafi has been fending people across sri lanka famous done live in a chicago a typical kashmiri bought since he was a young boy. the recent airborne has scared away his clients and decimated his own things. for a second we have it so there are about four thousand boat owners here they've all lost the business it's a terrible situation. shafi and sprains have seen the income wax and wane over the years in line with the militant attacks protests and crackdowns that periodically inflame tensions in the indian held parts of the region. i don't know what the problems between india and pakistan are. sponsored like a football between the two it's just used politically. it's a sentiment shared by many on the streets of srinagar indian administered kashmir soldiers are everywhere the recent war games between india and pakistan have added to the sense of unease no one was willing to speak out on camera. white tensions between india and pakistan are winding down after last week's aerial strikes a climate of fear in the heavily militarized. here in downtown srinagar shops and businesses ope

towards pakistan for indigenous problems because what has happened in push me the reaction of the kashmiri people is because of the very strong state terrorism or aggression which has been. pointed towards them in the last five years now i don't want to go into a blame game right i don't want to say you do this we do that i want to see that these two countries are far too important for the region for their own people and for the world we need to really come to the negotiating table and really have uninterrupted and uninterruptible don't know because dialogue is the only we to really of conflict long term distant relation of two nuclear states whose purpose is that serving it serves no one it just creates a lot of negativity within the region and keeps the region and these two countries from going forward while again one version that i heard in the pakistani and international media who is interested serving. at least initially were intended to serve the interest of their ruling party in india it's too early to say conclusively have this point of time but do you think this incident will end

it is a war against the kashmiri people, who had been under indian military occupation for the past 30r, the war is in kashmir and it is going to continue and intensify, so until the root cause of the issue, the conflict between these two countries is not resolved, there is going to be no peace for the region. stay with us on bbc news. still to come, nasa's groundbreaking mars mission gets underway as insight probes the inner secrets of the red planet. first, the plates slid gently off the restaurant tables. then suddenly, the tables, the chairs and people crashed sideways and downwards, and it was just a matter of seconds as the ferry lurched onto her side. the hydrogen bomb. on a remote pacific atoll, the americans had successfully tested a weapon whose explosive force dwarfed that of the bomb dropped on hiroshima. i had heard the news earlier, and so my heart went bang and bang. the constitutional rights of these marchers are their rights as citizens of the united states, and they should be protected even in the right to test them out, so that they don't get their heads broken and a

exclusive we talked to the family of a kashmiri suicide bomber who brought india and pakistan to the brink of war military and police matter rests and tortured people it forces people to resist that's why people want to join the militants everybody wants to pick up a gun. look at what's fueling the decades long feud over this disputed region. our brian thomas thanks so much for joining us the british parliament. votes today on leaving the european union without a deal on their future relationship this follows last night's rejection of the latest and final agreement prime minister theresa may secured with brussels m.p.'s voting overwhelmingly against her proposal delivering another humiliating defeat to an embattled prime minister. it was one of the biggest parliamentary defeats ever for a sitting prime minister many of the dissenting votes came from within prime minister to resign may's own party as the results were announced it was clear may had lost her authority and her voice on a point of order this is because i profoundly agree the decision that this house has taken tonight i co

into chicago a typical kashmiri bought since he was a young boy. the recent born has carried away his clients and decimated its own things. for seven hundred there are about four thousand here five business is a terrible situation. sprains have seen the income wax and wane over the years. in line with the militant attacks protests and crackdowns that really are to clean up inflame tensions in the indian held parts of the region. i don't know what the problems are between india and pakistan kashmir is passed between them not a football is just used politically. it's a sentiment shared by many on the streets of srinagar indian administered kashmir soldiers are everywhere the recent war games between india and pakistan have added to the sense of unease no one was willing to speak out on camera why tensions between india and pakistan are winding down after last week's aerial strikes a climate of fear prevails in the heavily militarized. here in downtown shops and businesses are open today after days of intermittent strikes and. causing major disruption

about the streets specifically where the hash tag specifically and how it took off well it was a kashmiri journalist who was the first one to actually use that hash tag and it came out slightly before pakistan announced that it would be free in the indian pilot and i believe we have that original tweet let's take a look at that right now and it was originally tweeted out the greek accused to who writes quote let's trend the hashtags say no to war we don't want any more lives to be snuffed out we want peace war has never solved any problem and it never will and this hash tag has now been picked up by celebrities politicians rights groups and every day users from both countries and has been among the top trends in india and pakistan and of course we've been tracking this hash tag and at its peak we were seen some two thousand tweets every ten minutes and that really goes to show you how saying no to war has really kind of taken off in the region and it's not the only show of solidarity online right oh sure it's really been interesting to kind of observe some of the rhetoric that people have

this is something which is unprecedented that this former kashmiri civil servant made news for resigning from his post to protest against the government in new delhi's policies policies he says are far more militaristic leaving no room for peaceful negotiation but we have seen the old institutions of dialogue negotiation those being kind of becoming better and eleventh and no important and no significant political initiative from delhi has been there for the last few years. the indian government has long complained that pakistan supports groups who promote violence and mere whoever is to blame for the under arrest in the disputed region all these indians want to do for now celebrate the release of their pilot as jamil al jazeera you delhi well jeff stacey is a former u.s. state department official and he says both sides need to act to diffuse the situation and that the u.s. has taken a backseat role this time india might try something else so i mean they seem to be celebrating it in their pilot back but they lost two aircraft overall for this thing to resolve you know moving forward paki

educated people have taken to the stands but this is something which is unprecedented that this former kashmiri civil servant made news for resigning from his post. to protest against the government in new delhi's policies policies he says are far more militaristic leaving no room for peaceful negotiation but we have seen the old institutions of dialogue negotiation those being kind of becoming very relevant and nor important but no significant political initiative from delhi has been there for the last few years. the indian government has long complained that pakistan supports groups who promote violence and kashmir whoever is to blame for the under arrest in the disputed region all these indians want to do for now celebrate the release of their pilot as jamil al jazeera new delhi. come on hide as more now from is on a bot. bulger's gone has handed over the indian violated toward shore down by a progress. pakistan saying that the indian aircraft were drying the while aid role and flying into pakistani airspace. idea indian pilot bailed out there were not mauled that almost killed him however i

the anti indian pro united kashmiri ideology is fundamental to all of the groups in the region india has long maintained that these groups are dirty funded and directed by pakistan's intelligence service the i.s.i. it's a charge pakistan the noise however the question remains what is pakistan doing about groups like al but they're rejecting and jaish e mohammad. after two thousand and fourteen we have game hard on these groups. now it's a stupid policy in pakistan that. really remains with the state and norgrove will be able to use that bill bruford real reload to have the ability to use one for the groups so i think we are taking steps we have taken steps in the past since two thousand and fourteen we have clean steps and i think we are on the right direction the groups are active today on both sides of the disputed border in indian administered kashmir has both mojahedin regularly now attacks on indian troops yet india insists it's a domestic issue and says there's no comparison between groups on either side of the disputed border saw the suggestion that there is some kind of week

human rights activists in the region fear young kashmiris are being pushed into joining armed groups because violence is a vicious cycle. that of violence it's not that it will be the. government has. ordered militants. it's not just young men in armed groups that have lost their lives civilians and many in the security forces have been killed. the violence in indian administered kashmir some of the soldiers are named here and india's new war memorial military officials on the ground in kashmir say it's a misinformation campaign by armed groups that the blame for some of the violence. the region's military commander has lashed out at what he says is a descent from ation campaign. propaganda and anything without any proof i would like to tell again people. don't fall victim to this propaganda. as fighting between armed groups and indian forces continue as does the intermittent shelling between india and pakistan who say they are caught in the middle with few options in front of them the worry is the next generation may also get dragged into the conflict as jimmy all al-jazeera new del

educated people they have taken to the stones but this is something which is unprecedented this former kashmiri civil servant made news for resigning from his post to protest against the government in new delhi's policies policies he says are far more militaristic leaving no room for peaceful negotiation but we have seen the old institutions of dialogue negotiation those being kind of becoming very eleventh and no important and no significant political initiative from delhi has been there for the last few years. the indian government has long complained that pakistan supports groups who promote violence in kashmir whoever is to blame for the under arrest in the disputed region all these indians want to do for now celebrate the release of their pilot as jamil al jazeera you delhi. from new delhi so there's been more violence on the border i have a nice. yes in terms of overnight shelling that the tension is than it has been for several weeks now and certainly overnight on friday what we've been able to ascertain is that shelling in the punch area again hit villages and one house in particular wh

that tends to be pushed by pakistan, to have some kind of referendum or plebiscite in which the kashmirior if they become an autonomous region or whatever the case may be, but again, as i said before, india does not the things that way, it thinks that there is no need for that, that india should be the only country that controls kashmir, and so there is such a deep disconnect that i do not see any way, any time in the future to think that the two sides can come together, but the first step has to be for the sides to talk. they have to be discussions, dialogues within kashmir between the government there in the central government in india, and then beyond that, you would hope hearts to have discussions between indians and the pakistani ‘s, but again that simply is not a realistic prospect now or at any time in the foreseeable future, so u nfortu nately, foreseeable future, so unfortunately, this region is bound to continue to be the nuclear flashpoint that it is today. —— pakistanis. thank you very much. thank you. officials in georgia have told the bbc they're examining a formal request