de beckers says that he turned over information about this the u.s. law enforcement. emily: spencer, gavinoesn't provide any evidence. does that -- the security consultant makes these proclamations but doesn't provide any evidence. does that undermined the point he is trying to make? spencer: absolutely. at this point, we don't know if he is buying the narrative of his choosing through an intermediary or if they actually have some evidence to back up the claims. all the evidence you put into his 2000 word, basically a conspiracy theory at this point, it is all circumstantial. it's all interesting and intriguing. but show us the goods. emily: it certainly is intriguing. why? brad: one thing that has changed is one or two weeks ago, the "new york times" had this story about these companies, many former law enforcement secret , private security folks from israel and united arab emirates who now had companies, that are sleuthing on behalf of governments and basically stealing communications, and gavin de becker points to that story. we know that this is possible. we know that this contributed

gavin de becker was hired by mr bezos to find out how his private messages had been leaked to the nationalecker linked the hack to coverage by the washington post, which mr bezos owns, of saudi journalist jamal khashoggi's murder. saudi arabia has not yet commented on the allegation. the pilots' union of india's troubled jet airways says it will hold off its plan to strike and will give the carrier's new management two weeks to clear unpaid salaries. jet has delayed payments to pilots, suppliers and lessors for months and defaulted on loans after racking up more than $1 billion in debt. the airline was bailed out last week by state—run banks. two million uk workers on minimum wages are now receiving a pay rise. workers aged 25 and over on the national living wage will receive £8.21 an hourfrom monday — a 4.9% rise. however, the pay rise comes as bills ranging from council tax to the tv licence fee become more expensive. james dawson had the idea of a healthy tea, which he thought would sell well with millennials. while they never warmed to it, he discovered it was becoming a hit amongst mi

they were concerned that information or that that claim would get out, whether through gavin de becker or someone else and they wanted that statement available to get ahead of that. >> so the "enquirer" goes after bezos. people are thinking what is the deal, the amazon "washington post," are they doing it for him? the saudis are not happy with jeff bezos because they murdered one of his columnists and then "the post" published that aggressively. michael sanchez, the brother of the girlfriend. ami basically pins it on him, right? >> this whole saga has been very bizarre, but one of the most -- i think interesting aspects from a journalistic perspective, obviously every news organization will sort of go to the mat to protect their sources, especially on such a massive story like this. ami over the last two or three weeks has fully burned their what they claim is their sole source on this. so that i thought, you know, when that began happening a couple of weeks ago with their lawyer going on the sunday shows and all but naming him, i thought that was very odd. when "the wall street journa

this is what really -- this formed a lot of gavin de becker's theory on this, michael sanchez was thee of text messages, the text of which ended up in the "national enquirer" story. he's now saying that that was very likely the saudi government. >> i just want to be -- it's complicated, but i want to be clear about what the sort of core allegation by de becker is, that "the washington post," a first amendment protected newspaper in the united states has a columnist who is murdered by the saudi regime, largely because of the things that we think he published in "the washington post". the saudi regime attempts to cover it up and are caught. "the washington post" aggressively covers up the cover-up, and in essentially retaliation this regime protected by the trump administration and defended by the trump administration at every turn turns to a vendetta against the owner of the post as a kind of recrimination because they aggressively covered their murder of a "washington post" columnist. >> right. de becker even goes further than that and says there were these sort of online trolling cam

and others and you might notice that for about a week now before i head off gavin de becker article in the daily beast in which he exposed this there had been there has been a number of reports which i can only explain in fact on a can only describe as p r it's like there are actually anticipating though they're probably they're anticipating something like this and they want to to kind of say that you know we're not that insidious company that that appropriates with with dictators but we're also saving lives somehow of course you know whether you believe them or not is another question when it's not the first time the saudi arabia has been accused of this kind of thing so hard this. sarge radio seems to have adopted a cyber campaign to silence those disagreeing with the kingdom both at home and abroad on the abdulaziz is one of them he's in exile in canada and was a friend of murdered journalist. last june he received a suspicious text message with a link to track apostles' delivery a canadian research group citizen lab says that it's confident the armors mobile phone was targeted by s

the investigator — gavin de becker — linked the hack to coverage of the murder of saudi journalist jamalch mr bezos owns. saudi arabia has not yet commented on the allegation. easyjet has warned that uncertainty surrounding brexit is hurting its business and discouraging potential customers from buying flights. customer demand for ticket sales for the next six months — which includes the peak summer season — is unexpectedly weak. and the budget airline has already said it expects to make a loss of $360 million in the first half of the year. two million uk workers on minimum wage are now receiving a pay rise. workers aged 25 and over on the national living wage will receive a 4.9% rise from monday. however, the pay rise comes as bills ranging from council tax to the tv licence fee become more expensive. manufacturing in china got an unexpected boost last month, and that's helping ease worries about a slowdown in what is the world's second largest economy. let's get more detail on this, it gave a big boost to asian trading today. sharanjit leyl is in singapore. tell us more about how china

sanchez's brother was the one who gave the tip to the national inquirer oig now comes this word from gavin de becker, he finds that he believes that the saudis accessed the texts and private information from jeff bezos' cellpho cellphone. he doesn't have any direct evidence for how they got this but -- >> the response from the national nation"national enquirer" was t that did not happen, it came from the woman's brother >> and what was astounding about that, ami the parent company outed their source journalistically we never do that unless required by court and even then we don't but here they are voluntarily saying michael was the guy, he gave us everything we had and he was the only one >> so the unusual nature of that move either suggests that ami is lying, that maybe it knows there was saudi involvement. people will say look at the funding involved or that, b, jeff baezos doesn't want to accept that the brother is lying. >> you either believe that this was just michael sanchez and for whatever reason the $200,000 or not he gave them all the information. or that jeff bezos is the victim of a vast

de becker yesterday said michael sanchez never had access to the pictures, the racy pictures that we're talking about, that he provided other text, but not the pictures >> right. >> and yesterday, gavinaudis beforehand. >> right and the "journal" itself reported that "the enquirer" was already looking into this, they had already somehow figure ed out that this affair was going on by the time michael sanchez came into the picture. so ami now saying the only tip was from michael sanchez and he provided the original one, others now saying it was someone else. >> my only sort of behind-the-scenes question about all of this is actually about de becker and how public he's been. and clearly, jeff bezos has been very public because he's the one who wrote about it first on medium but how much conversation do you think there is regularly about this on a day-to-day basis, and how much do you think bezos has said, i don't -- because remember, bezos said i don't want to think about this i'm just handing this over to this guy and he's goingto be i charge of this but given all the public statements being made, how many hours in the day do you think this is consuming for everybody involved >> well,