i was looking at alice griffen and before people could move in they looked old and tarnish just from janitors setting things up and their clothing and it was marred. >> are those interior or exterior? >> interior walls where the garage is and it leads like if they were moving in. garage leading upstairs into the levels. >> we do take into account all the materials. they're life cycles, the finishes, we tend to look at finishes between a matte and glossy an eggshell finish. all those are further refinements but for sure keeping something fresh and knew they're all things we take into account as we start to specify all the finishes in the next iteration of the design process. >> commissioner: thank you so much. and the last thought and it may not even apply to thi