taylor told diana olick at the capital exchange conference. >> i am bullish because of this and when look at 80 million millennials and i said 40 million of them are getting to household or house ownership over the next 7 to 10 years, i think household growth in that cohort is anticipated to be 3.3 million. when i look at the boomers, about 80 million of them too and household expected to be 10 million over the next eight years. those are huge numbers >> joining us now, someone who knows a thing or two about the housing market hgtv's flip or flop. good to see you again. >> good to see ewe again >> what's it like out there what do you see on the ground the same woman said the end of last year was atrocious. are we seeing a sharp rebound? a gradual one? >> i wouldn't call it a rebound per se but definitely seeing some improvement in the market the interest rates are low right now, lower than they've been in a while and a drop from the future we've been at a very strong market for a long time so we are at the tail end of this thing and dropping interest rates is trying to slow down the