james hoffa, welcome back to the newshour. the president's tariffs and the retaliation by china, as we said, are making a lot oop pe nervous. what is your view? >> my view is we need tariffs nainst china. d a strategic way the use them, because we really have to lel the playing field with china. they have had it one way all e.is tim american goods are not getting in there. we have to create a market, a bigger market than soybeans for american products to go into china, which is a huge billion-person country. loat's not happening. we're beinged out right now. that's what this trade war is about, about opening their market so we can sell our products therean. that's got to happen. i think the use of tariffs with regard to china is a good idea. >> woodruff: well, it may be good in an ideasense, bu as you know very well, there is serious worry about it not only raising prices for american cnsumers, but hurting american businesses in a way that is going t cost productivity for years to come. >> brangham: we have hearde, that but al