and via skype, mary ziegler.'s a law professor at florida state university and author of several books on abortion and politics, including "after roe: the lost history of thtion debate." welcome to all of you. thank you for being here. brian, let's start with you where we left off in the piece. alabama, the most restrictive abortion ban in the country. from your reporting, what do w know about why that bill was crafted the way that it was? >> there is only within reason this bill was written the way st : the supporters say they are trying to mount a direct allenge to roe v. wade. they believe that this law will crte a legal challenge that they will probably lose in the lower courts but they think they can appeal this all the way the u.s. supreme court, and they think with the current make-up of the supreme courtthey think they can get roe overturned. >> nawaz: mary ziegler, give us a little bit of context here. alabama is t alone in passing some of these restrictions. a number of states have beekin numbers over a

. >> nawaz: mary ziegler, give us a little bit of context here.bama is asnot alone inng some of these restrictions. a number of states have been making numbers over a number of years. what kinds of bills and restrictions have been making their way through state >> sure.ures? so i think this is more of a long shot if you're looking at what the court is actually likely to do. we have seen so-calledeartbeat bills, including one passed in georgia, all of which ban abortion at rohly the sixth week of pregnancy. we have also sign more incremental legislation thatfo tends ts on later abortion, including laws that ban abortion on 20 weeks on the grounds ofetal pain prevention. we've seen laws banning violation and evacuation, the most common second trimester procedure. and there are some ses in front of the supreme court right now including a law passed in indiana when mike pence was the governor. >> nawaz: i want to be clear, mary ziegler, a number of these incredibly restrictive bills that have been pushed more recently, are any of them in llace on the